jumpergirl 0 #1 July 15, 2005 My first cutaway on the first load yesterday. DAMN! Everything opened great, just like normal. I reached up, unstowed the toggles, made a small turn, and the right toggle came right off the line!! I looked up and saw my stearling line slip up and through the grommet and fly along behind the canopy. FU&%!! All I could say and think was FU&% FU&% FU&% FU&%!! I was around 2500', chopped, got a nice pretty reserve, and landed with a nice little surf! About 2 hours later they found my canopy and bag and I got my rig put back together. I got on load 5 and it worked much better! Everyone has asked why I didn't just fly and flare with my rear risers. I definitely was not thinking about that and wasn't sure how it would fly. I made my decision and was very happy with it. So, yeah, I owe beer now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattsplat 0 #2 July 15, 2005 I heard first. BEER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #3 July 15, 2005 Great job and congrats! You certainly made the right decision. That would not be the time to decide whether or not you think you could land with rears. You had a plan and didn't waste time. Good job! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #4 July 15, 2005 cutting away or not on that type of problem is totally up to the jumper and you did what you felt comfortable with... Contrats Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outlawphx 1 #5 July 15, 2005 Congrats on your first chop! Was the steering line fingertrapped, sewn, tied with a knot, or ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #6 July 15, 2005 Congrats! And don't let people questioning you get to you. You did what you needed to. I probably wouldn't be comfortable landing on rears at this point either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #7 July 15, 2005 Nice Job. Fuck what any one thinks. Your ok you made the right decision.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idlewild70 0 #8 July 15, 2005 same thing happened to me on jump # 23. i also chopped it.-Fish Blue skies, Soft landings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpergirl 0 #9 July 15, 2005 Based on the other toggle, I was told it looks like it was finger trapped but not tacked down or knotted. The end result was good, and that's what makes me happy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #10 July 15, 2005 Good girl. Stay heads up and know what your limits are. (Just FYI, I would have chopped it too. I do not regulalry land on rears, and wouldn't have wanted to explore that with no other option.)~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpergirl 0 #11 July 15, 2005 I'm at a new dz and the air is different here than at home. I had only made 1 jump prior to the cutaway. I had NO idea how the canopy would fly in it's condition on top of being in different air. I'm happy with my decision. No one has said I "should have" done anything. They have asked why I didn't. My reply is that I didn't think about it, really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #12 July 15, 2005 QuoteI'm at a new dz and the air is different here than at home. I had only made 1 jump prior to the cutaway. I had NO idea how the canopy would fly in it's condition on top of being in different air. Oh hell yeah Fluffy would have been gone right away... Glad you found all your stuff! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dixieskydiver 0 #13 July 15, 2005 Awwww fuck em, now you don't have to pay for a tert rig to get your cutaway for you tandem rating. Always think of the positive Dixie HISPA #56 Facil Rodriguez "Scientific research has shown that 60% of the time, it works every time." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites swoopdog 0 #14 July 15, 2005 I had my 2nd cutaway on my 37th jump, nothing to do with me just bad luck i've been told. I didn't stress for a second and i performed my cut aways perfectly.... don't u just love the bright white reserve??? anyways its all good. You did the right thing, people die questioning themselves in everything thing in life. Smile and have a bat for me?? jpw If your going to live in FEAR, why live at all!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites swoopdog 0 #15 July 15, 2005 in reply to my last message, it was due for a re pack anyways.... just a tiny bit more expensive hahaha go cedric..... da playa If your going to live in FEAR, why live at all!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MikeJD 0 #16 July 15, 2005 Congratulations! And be thankful that toggle didn't detach during your flare. Happened to a friend of mine, and she was lucky that she just tumbled on landing and didn't hurt herself. Others have been less fortunate. Oh, and look at it this way - you handled your first cutaway just fine and you got to practise it under relatively easy conditions. Nice one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpergirl 0 #17 July 15, 2005 After I landed and calmed down I talked to someone about it. He asked what I would have done if it had come off at 800' in a turn. I said, "You mean after I shit myself?" It made me think and I learned something, which makes it alright. I am VERY thankful that it was a minor low-speed malfunction. I have been dreading my first cutaway for almost 400 jumps now. My confidence is up now and I think I can better handle another one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #18 July 15, 2005 Quote My first cutaway on the first load yesterday. DAMN! Crazy Everything opened great, just like normal. I reached up, unstowed the toggles, made a small turn, and the right toggle came right off the line!! I looked up and saw my stearling line slip up and through the grommet and fly along behind the canopy. Can anyone say Bartack!!!!!! Glad you are ok. I thinkyou did the right thing. Learning to flair with risers under stress is probably not the time to be doing that. This is a qoute from either Jim Slaton or J.C (can't remember which) "Rear risers are the last thing that you should try to figure out!" I see people using them all time and they don't know how close they are to putting there canopy into a dynamic stall. At 10-20 ft. it can kill ya!!!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Luminous 0 #19 July 15, 2005 Congrats on your 1st cutaway. I'll look you up on Sat. and congratulate you in person. I am not questioning your decision in any way shape or form. However I would like to point out to some of those that have posted that landing a canopy using the rear risers is really no big deal, IF YOU PRACTICE! Steering with the risers is definitly different than steering with the toggles, but you won't know unless you practice. And it's MUCH easier to stall your canopy with the rears. But practicing will teach you where that stall point is. Practice up high, and then bring it down when you safely can. Don't wait until you NEED to, do it because it's a good thing to know when you need it. I personaly am not going to chop a canopy I can land with the rear risers because reserves do mal on occasion. My reserve is my last resort, just like jumpergirl. Cheers Larry'In an insane society a sane person seems insane.' Mr. Spock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpergirl 0 #20 July 15, 2005 Thanks Larry. I'm looking forward to meeting you tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skychick312 0 #21 July 15, 2005 Congrats on the 1st cutaway...after that everything else should be gravvy!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Be the change you wish to see in the world! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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Darius11 12 #7 July 15, 2005 Nice Job. Fuck what any one thinks. Your ok you made the right decision.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idlewild70 0 #8 July 15, 2005 same thing happened to me on jump # 23. i also chopped it.-Fish Blue skies, Soft landings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpergirl 0 #9 July 15, 2005 Based on the other toggle, I was told it looks like it was finger trapped but not tacked down or knotted. The end result was good, and that's what makes me happy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #10 July 15, 2005 Good girl. Stay heads up and know what your limits are. (Just FYI, I would have chopped it too. I do not regulalry land on rears, and wouldn't have wanted to explore that with no other option.)~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpergirl 0 #11 July 15, 2005 I'm at a new dz and the air is different here than at home. I had only made 1 jump prior to the cutaway. I had NO idea how the canopy would fly in it's condition on top of being in different air. I'm happy with my decision. No one has said I "should have" done anything. They have asked why I didn't. My reply is that I didn't think about it, really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #12 July 15, 2005 QuoteI'm at a new dz and the air is different here than at home. I had only made 1 jump prior to the cutaway. I had NO idea how the canopy would fly in it's condition on top of being in different air. Oh hell yeah Fluffy would have been gone right away... Glad you found all your stuff! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dixieskydiver 0 #13 July 15, 2005 Awwww fuck em, now you don't have to pay for a tert rig to get your cutaway for you tandem rating. Always think of the positive Dixie HISPA #56 Facil Rodriguez "Scientific research has shown that 60% of the time, it works every time." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites swoopdog 0 #14 July 15, 2005 I had my 2nd cutaway on my 37th jump, nothing to do with me just bad luck i've been told. I didn't stress for a second and i performed my cut aways perfectly.... don't u just love the bright white reserve??? anyways its all good. You did the right thing, people die questioning themselves in everything thing in life. Smile and have a bat for me?? jpw If your going to live in FEAR, why live at all!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites swoopdog 0 #15 July 15, 2005 in reply to my last message, it was due for a re pack anyways.... just a tiny bit more expensive hahaha go cedric..... da playa If your going to live in FEAR, why live at all!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MikeJD 0 #16 July 15, 2005 Congratulations! And be thankful that toggle didn't detach during your flare. Happened to a friend of mine, and she was lucky that she just tumbled on landing and didn't hurt herself. Others have been less fortunate. Oh, and look at it this way - you handled your first cutaway just fine and you got to practise it under relatively easy conditions. Nice one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpergirl 0 #17 July 15, 2005 After I landed and calmed down I talked to someone about it. He asked what I would have done if it had come off at 800' in a turn. I said, "You mean after I shit myself?" It made me think and I learned something, which makes it alright. I am VERY thankful that it was a minor low-speed malfunction. I have been dreading my first cutaway for almost 400 jumps now. My confidence is up now and I think I can better handle another one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #18 July 15, 2005 Quote My first cutaway on the first load yesterday. DAMN! Crazy Everything opened great, just like normal. I reached up, unstowed the toggles, made a small turn, and the right toggle came right off the line!! I looked up and saw my stearling line slip up and through the grommet and fly along behind the canopy. Can anyone say Bartack!!!!!! Glad you are ok. I thinkyou did the right thing. Learning to flair with risers under stress is probably not the time to be doing that. This is a qoute from either Jim Slaton or J.C (can't remember which) "Rear risers are the last thing that you should try to figure out!" I see people using them all time and they don't know how close they are to putting there canopy into a dynamic stall. At 10-20 ft. it can kill ya!!!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Luminous 0 #19 July 15, 2005 Congrats on your 1st cutaway. I'll look you up on Sat. and congratulate you in person. I am not questioning your decision in any way shape or form. However I would like to point out to some of those that have posted that landing a canopy using the rear risers is really no big deal, IF YOU PRACTICE! Steering with the risers is definitly different than steering with the toggles, but you won't know unless you practice. And it's MUCH easier to stall your canopy with the rears. But practicing will teach you where that stall point is. Practice up high, and then bring it down when you safely can. Don't wait until you NEED to, do it because it's a good thing to know when you need it. I personaly am not going to chop a canopy I can land with the rear risers because reserves do mal on occasion. My reserve is my last resort, just like jumpergirl. Cheers Larry'In an insane society a sane person seems insane.' Mr. Spock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpergirl 0 #20 July 15, 2005 Thanks Larry. I'm looking forward to meeting you tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skychick312 0 #21 July 15, 2005 Congrats on the 1st cutaway...after that everything else should be gravvy!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Be the change you wish to see in the world! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
ACMESkydiver 0 #10 July 15, 2005 Good girl. Stay heads up and know what your limits are. (Just FYI, I would have chopped it too. I do not regulalry land on rears, and wouldn't have wanted to explore that with no other option.)~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpergirl 0 #11 July 15, 2005 I'm at a new dz and the air is different here than at home. I had only made 1 jump prior to the cutaway. I had NO idea how the canopy would fly in it's condition on top of being in different air. I'm happy with my decision. No one has said I "should have" done anything. They have asked why I didn't. My reply is that I didn't think about it, really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #12 July 15, 2005 QuoteI'm at a new dz and the air is different here than at home. I had only made 1 jump prior to the cutaway. I had NO idea how the canopy would fly in it's condition on top of being in different air. Oh hell yeah Fluffy would have been gone right away... Glad you found all your stuff! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dixieskydiver 0 #13 July 15, 2005 Awwww fuck em, now you don't have to pay for a tert rig to get your cutaway for you tandem rating. Always think of the positive Dixie HISPA #56 Facil Rodriguez "Scientific research has shown that 60% of the time, it works every time." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swoopdog 0 #14 July 15, 2005 I had my 2nd cutaway on my 37th jump, nothing to do with me just bad luck i've been told. I didn't stress for a second and i performed my cut aways perfectly.... don't u just love the bright white reserve??? anyways its all good. You did the right thing, people die questioning themselves in everything thing in life. Smile and have a bat for me?? jpw If your going to live in FEAR, why live at all!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swoopdog 0 #15 July 15, 2005 in reply to my last message, it was due for a re pack anyways.... just a tiny bit more expensive hahaha go cedric..... da playa If your going to live in FEAR, why live at all!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #16 July 15, 2005 Congratulations! And be thankful that toggle didn't detach during your flare. Happened to a friend of mine, and she was lucky that she just tumbled on landing and didn't hurt herself. Others have been less fortunate. Oh, and look at it this way - you handled your first cutaway just fine and you got to practise it under relatively easy conditions. Nice one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpergirl 0 #17 July 15, 2005 After I landed and calmed down I talked to someone about it. He asked what I would have done if it had come off at 800' in a turn. I said, "You mean after I shit myself?" It made me think and I learned something, which makes it alright. I am VERY thankful that it was a minor low-speed malfunction. I have been dreading my first cutaway for almost 400 jumps now. My confidence is up now and I think I can better handle another one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #18 July 15, 2005 Quote My first cutaway on the first load yesterday. DAMN! Crazy Everything opened great, just like normal. I reached up, unstowed the toggles, made a small turn, and the right toggle came right off the line!! I looked up and saw my stearling line slip up and through the grommet and fly along behind the canopy. Can anyone say Bartack!!!!!! Glad you are ok. I thinkyou did the right thing. Learning to flair with risers under stress is probably not the time to be doing that. This is a qoute from either Jim Slaton or J.C (can't remember which) "Rear risers are the last thing that you should try to figure out!" I see people using them all time and they don't know how close they are to putting there canopy into a dynamic stall. At 10-20 ft. it can kill ya!!!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Luminous 0 #19 July 15, 2005 Congrats on your 1st cutaway. I'll look you up on Sat. and congratulate you in person. I am not questioning your decision in any way shape or form. However I would like to point out to some of those that have posted that landing a canopy using the rear risers is really no big deal, IF YOU PRACTICE! Steering with the risers is definitly different than steering with the toggles, but you won't know unless you practice. And it's MUCH easier to stall your canopy with the rears. But practicing will teach you where that stall point is. Practice up high, and then bring it down when you safely can. Don't wait until you NEED to, do it because it's a good thing to know when you need it. I personaly am not going to chop a canopy I can land with the rear risers because reserves do mal on occasion. My reserve is my last resort, just like jumpergirl. Cheers Larry'In an insane society a sane person seems insane.' Mr. Spock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumpergirl 0 #20 July 15, 2005 Thanks Larry. I'm looking forward to meeting you tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skychick312 0 #21 July 15, 2005 Congrats on the 1st cutaway...after that everything else should be gravvy!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Be the change you wish to see in the world! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
dgskydive 0 #18 July 15, 2005 Quote My first cutaway on the first load yesterday. DAMN! Crazy Everything opened great, just like normal. I reached up, unstowed the toggles, made a small turn, and the right toggle came right off the line!! I looked up and saw my stearling line slip up and through the grommet and fly along behind the canopy. Can anyone say Bartack!!!!!! Glad you are ok. I thinkyou did the right thing. Learning to flair with risers under stress is probably not the time to be doing that. This is a qoute from either Jim Slaton or J.C (can't remember which) "Rear risers are the last thing that you should try to figure out!" I see people using them all time and they don't know how close they are to putting there canopy into a dynamic stall. At 10-20 ft. it can kill ya!!!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luminous 0 #19 July 15, 2005 Congrats on your 1st cutaway. I'll look you up on Sat. and congratulate you in person. I am not questioning your decision in any way shape or form. However I would like to point out to some of those that have posted that landing a canopy using the rear risers is really no big deal, IF YOU PRACTICE! Steering with the risers is definitly different than steering with the toggles, but you won't know unless you practice. And it's MUCH easier to stall your canopy with the rears. But practicing will teach you where that stall point is. Practice up high, and then bring it down when you safely can. Don't wait until you NEED to, do it because it's a good thing to know when you need it. I personaly am not going to chop a canopy I can land with the rear risers because reserves do mal on occasion. My reserve is my last resort, just like jumpergirl. Cheers Larry'In an insane society a sane person seems insane.' Mr. Spock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpergirl 0 #20 July 15, 2005 Thanks Larry. I'm looking forward to meeting you tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skychick312 0 #21 July 15, 2005 Congrats on the 1st cutaway...after that everything else should be gravvy!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Be the change you wish to see in the world! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
skychick312 0 #21 July 15, 2005 Congrats on the 1st cutaway...after that everything else should be gravvy!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Be the change you wish to see in the world! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
