Anvilbrother 0 #1 April 13, 2008 When hooking up a non collapsible pc to the bridle does the bridle pass through the apex line also, or just through the X of the tapes then you larks head it? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteS 0 #2 April 13, 2008 Yes, the centerline must be in the larkshead knot.Not doing so can cause damage after a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #3 April 13, 2008 yea that I figured that and also the larks would be pushed to one side or the other if it was not kept in the center. Thanks Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base283 0 #4 April 13, 2008 That is a really scary question. Not the question itself. But the need to ask it. Take care, space Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #5 April 13, 2008 whatever....It is a new type of EQ to this rig(the old was spring loaded pc). I am not a rigger, assembling at home before I get to the DZ where a master rigger will give it a look over. What is scary is people like you making others feel like any question is stupid bc they are not 100% sure. I already has the pc rigged as it should, just wanted to make sure before it was attached to top of canopy. Thanks Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VincentVL. 0 #6 April 13, 2008 I think he said what he said because not too long ago a baséjµmper almost got killed when his pilot chute actually tore off because he had attached it in a similar matter. Never feel bad for asking something though. (edited because I hate hotlinking) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base283 0 #7 April 13, 2008 I do feel it is better to ask a stupid question and get a stupid answer rather than not ask a stupid question and remain stupid. That being said, I am only questioning the state of knowledge. I do not mean that your question was stupid. But that you should research the "why" of your lack of knowledge in a sport that can kill you. One does not have to be a rigger to pull on the bridle PC connection to see how the forces play out. Think about it. I am a little bit upset at you. You skydive and do not know how to hook up a PC..... Take care, space Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #8 April 13, 2008 QuoteI do feel it is better to ask a stupid question and get a stupid answer rather than not ask a stupid question and remain stupid. So, I ask a stupid question and get a stupid answer...what have I learned? That the person I asked is going to be a smart-ass and not help me. Hmmm...I learned something today!My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #9 April 13, 2008 I can understand that. The PC that I am familar with on my rig only has 1 loop and does not have the option to pass the bridle through the centerline. I just had the rig converted from spring loaded pc to hand deploy. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstime 0 #10 April 13, 2008 my guess is that teaching is not your main source of income Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airgord 1 #11 April 14, 2008 ......and english is his second language. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Metekanya 0 #12 April 14, 2008 Base283, have you never had a rigging doubt at home? Or is it that you know everything? This guy is just asking to be sure that what he is doing is right. Give him an answer to his question or just shut up. He is probably not interested at all in your thoughts about who should know what. You could open a new post on that issue which surely would be very succesful. Most skydivers really do not have any clue of how their PCs are connected to the bridle of their rig and do not die of it. Of course they should know but they dont. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #13 April 14, 2008 QuoteSo, I ask a stupid question and get a stupid answer...what have I learned? That dropzone.com is a stupid place to ask a question that you want a serious answer to. Even (or should I say especially?) if you post it in the "topical" forums where you're supposed to be able to get a serious answer to a skydiving related question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #14 April 15, 2008 Sorry, sweetie, you didn't piss me off. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buff 0 #15 April 15, 2008 So I'm wondering if Base would be considered just a Skygod or also a Loftgod given his profile. I guess he won't be getting my business either way. I ordered a Cazer kill line PC the other day and called my rigger to see if he could check my assembly. No problem, run it by he said. If he said that I should have brought it to him and I had no business following the instructions provided by Jim Cazer, then he would not be my rigger any longer because gear maintenance is part of the program and a PC hook up in my opinion is the same as removing your main to work the 3-rings.It's called the Hillbilly Hop N Pop dude. If you're gonna be stupid, you better be tough. That's fucked up. Watermelons do not grow on trees! ~Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #16 April 15, 2008 QuoteYes, the centerline must be in the larkshead knot.Not doing so can cause damage after a while. You also want to make sure the ends of the 180 degree opposite reinforcing tapes line up with each other before you tighten the larks head. This will limit the bridle twists you have to undo when packing and make you more likely to have on-heading openings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #17 April 15, 2008 Quote I am a little bit upset at you. You skydive and do not know how to hook up a PC..... Take care, space Collapsible pilot chutes have become nearly universal among experienced skydivers and every one I've seen was sewn to the bridle. Even my Paraflite EOS built for a Turbo Z 205 (read as neither modern nor high performance) came with a collapsible PC. So many newer skydivers have no opportunity to deal with a larks head at the pilot chute end until they develop interests in rigging and/or BASE jumping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #18 April 21, 2008 QuoteI do feel it is better to ask a stupid question and get a stupid answer rather than not ask a stupid question and remain stupid. That being said, I am only questioning the state of knowledge. I do not mean that your question was stupid. But that you should research the "why" of your lack of knowledge in a sport that can kill you. One does not have to be a rigger to pull on the bridle PC connection to see how the forces play out. Think about it. I am a little bit upset at you. You skydive and do not know how to hook up a PC..... Take care, space At what point in your jumping career did you have all the answers? 5 jumps, 20 jumps or maybe 100 jumps? While I agree that the net should not be the last word in rigging solutions it seems to be a good start on doing the ”research” you speak of. Rather than “humiliate” the man give him a reasonable answer and encourage him to seek further input form a local rigger. Just a thought. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites