RkyMtnHigh 0 #1 May 24, 2007 Has anyone taken Ultracet? I requested a non drowsy (so I can still drive and do my job), non narcotic pain med for my painful torn MCL (as of today I found out that I might have torn my cartilege as well)...and it doesn't seem to be kicking in I can take 2 every 6 hours...It isn't a stimulant..but damn...I need my sleep. _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydyver 0 #2 May 24, 2007 here is some info on ultracet.... What is Ultracet? Tramadol is a narcotic-like pain reliever. Acetaminophen is a less potent pain reliever that increases the effects of tramadol. The combination of acetaminophen and tramadol is used to treat moderate to severe pain. Ultracet may also be used for purposes other than those listed in this medication guide. What should I discuss with my healthcare provider before taking Ultracet? Do not take this medication if you are allergic to Ultracet, if you are intoxicated (drunk), or if you have recently used any of the following drugs: alcohol; narcotic pain medicine; sedatives or tranquilizers (such as Valium); medicine for depression or anxiety; medicine for mental illness (such as bipolar disorder, schizophrenia); or street drugs. Tell your doctor if you drink more than three alcoholic beverages per day or if you have ever had alcoholic liver disease (cirrhosis). You may not be able to take medication that contains acetaminophen. Seizures have occurred in some people taking Ultracet. Your risk of a seizure may be higher if you have any of these conditions: a history of drug or alcohol addiction; a history of epilepsy or other seizure disorder; a history of head injury; a metabolic disorder; an infection of your brain or spinal cord, such as meningitis or encephalitis; if you are also taking an antidepressant, mood stabilizer, or another narcotic pain medicine; or if you have taken an MAO inhibitor such as isocarboxazid (Marplan), phenelzine (Nardil), rasagiline (Azilect), selegiline (Eldepryl, Emsam), or tranylcypromine (Parnate) within the past 14 days. Its not going to work like hydrocodone or oxycodone which will provide analgesia and make you sleepy. Do they want you to take any anti-inflammatories?DPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #3 May 24, 2007 By the description "ladydyver" posted, it sounds very stimulant-like."No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydyver 0 #4 May 24, 2007 QuoteBy the description "ladydyver" posted, it sounds very stimulant-like. more like tylenol with a boost - ultram is suppose to be non-sedating and not have narcotic like effects i.e. sleepiness/addiction, it is used alot with those who have substance use problems in our area so that they aren't given hydrocodone (vicodin) or oxycocdone (percocet). you need to watch the amount of tylenol you are ingesting as well as you should not exceed 4gms in 24/hrs as it is toxic to the liver.DPH # 2 "I am not sure what you are suppose to do with that, but I don't think it is suppose to flop around like that." ~Skootz~ I have a strong regard for the rules.......doc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #5 May 24, 2007 Say no to drugs. But yea, a few of those helped me get through the winter. ..snow plowing and shoveling 30 homes a day. Seemed to not even know i was on one. Works great. Killing pain isn't always a good idea. Pain will help prevent further injury if you listen to it. Tough it out as much as you can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #6 May 24, 2007 Having torn my MCL a few years back.... and more recently my ACL - Do you have a brace on your knee? That will help the pain and discomfort as much as actual pain medicines! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #7 May 24, 2007 QuoteBy the description "ladydyver" posted, it sounds very stimulant-like. ......um, why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #8 May 24, 2007 QuoteHaving torn my MCL a few years back.... and more recently my ACL - Do you have a brace on your knee? That will help the pain and discomfort as much as actual pain medicines! Yes, I wear a hinged knee brace all day for stability. The orthopod said that was the most critical part to the rehab. Other than that he has me on Meloxicam (anti-inflammatory), icing for 20 mins 2-3x/day, and 2x/week going to physical therapy (bicycle, leg press, leg extension, stair step, along with electro stimulation and ultrasound) _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #9 May 24, 2007 wow! You're getting the full treatment there!! Good to hear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VideoFly 0 #10 May 25, 2007 Don't believe them if they tell you it is not addictive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #11 May 25, 2007 Quote Has anyone taken Ultracet? I requested a non drowsy (so I can still drive and do my job), non narcotic pain med for my painful torn MCL (as of today I found out that I might have torn my cartilege as well)...and it doesn't seem to be kicking in I can take 2 every 6 hours...It isn't a stimulant..but damn...I need my sleep. Ultracet as prescribed is execellent for the day time, but you should try to get a prescription for Vicodin or Percoset for the night time. Tramadol based analgeisics can cause sleep disorders in many patients. Also, ice the affected area regularly. This will go a long way towards reducing the swelling and subsequent pain. It's the swelling that causes most of the pain and continued injury. The caveat for Ultracet, which is essientially tramadol with Tylenol, is if you are prone to seiziure. Tramadol based analgeisics can reduce your threshold for seizure events. Lastly, be careful the of .cet drugs. Take no more than 4 grams of Tylenol per day because of acetominophen load on the liver. There's about 37.5mg of tramadol in an Ultracet. If you aren't having problems sleeping, try to get just plain 50mg tramadol and save the liver damage for alcohol. Brought to you all courtsey of my wife, who is an NP with a Class II license for pain meds, and a pain specialist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #12 May 25, 2007 Try taking Tramadol instead (no tylenol) and 800mg of advil with it. It works for me. I agree with the Tramadol and sleep disorder side affect. It does not happen all the time but sometimes it feels like you are trying to fight it off even when you are drowsy. Still I think it is a preferable medicine to manage pain to a level where you still feel it, but it is tolerable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,393 #13 May 25, 2007 OK, I must ask a dumb question; Considering your line(s) of work and business connections, why do you need to ask a bunch of skydivers for pharmaceutical advice??? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #14 May 25, 2007 She probably wanted to hear from people who are in pain persisitantly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #15 May 25, 2007 Quote OK, I must ask a dumb question; Considering your line(s) of work and business connections, why do you need to ask a bunch of skydivers for pharmaceutical advice??? Yoder as you know, I've been in Critical Care for 12+ years...IV infusions in the Cardiac Cath Lab, ED, etc...but not an expert of prescription meds. _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,393 #16 May 25, 2007 Quote Yoder as you know, I've been in Critical Care for 12+ years...IV infusions in the Cardiac Cath Lab, ED, etc...but not an expert of prescription meds. Well then just watch "Scrubs"!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #17 May 25, 2007 They gave me some Ultracet samples when I blew up a disc and wanted something which wouldn't have me out of it like Vicodin. It worked about as well as Tylenol which is to say almost not at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #18 June 2, 2007 I'm a month into this MCL tear and pain...Ultracet as a pain med sucks...and DOES NOT work...it's a sugar pill..its bullshit...if you're psychosomatic perhaps it works but if you're the real deal...it doesn't do crap _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #19 June 2, 2007 pain med does not make you go "PAIN FREE", it just dulls the pain a little. and drugs that make you go completly pain free is usually illegal. and oxy and vicoden doesn't do shit besides make you sleepy... so you basicaly sleep and you pass the pain hour away,, wake up and repeat the process for a month and your MCL tear will go away, but you'll have another problem called "Addiction"Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metta 0 #20 June 3, 2007 The problem that you have with them too is that your other med---meloxicam---or Mobic is not always so great as an anitinflammatory/pain med for some people either. You might want to ask your doc to switch you to something that works really good as an antinflammatory like Naproxen or even the stronger doses of Motrin, and alternate them with the Ultracet. There are other strong anti-inflam drugs out there like Cataflam or Voltaren...they can be rough on your stomach like motrin or naproxen can too so you have to watch out for that. You may find that you can have better pain relief with some of those older meds. Of course, keep up with the PT, icing etc. Hope you feel better! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #21 June 3, 2007 Quote The problem that you have with them too is that your other med---meloxicam---or Mobic is not always so great as an anitinflammatory/pain med for some people either. You might want to ask your doc to switch you to something that works really good as an antinflammatory like Naproxen or even the stronger doses of Motrin, and alternate them with the Ultracet. There are other strong anti-inflam drugs out there like Cataflam or Voltaren...they can be rough on your stomach like motrin or naproxen can too so you have to watch out for that. You may find that you can have better pain relief with some of those older meds. Of course, keep up with the PT, icing etc. Hope you feel better! I'm in pain now..wake up in pain every morning and its been over a month now...Ultracet nor Meloxicam aren't worth shit _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #22 June 3, 2007 Have a few beers or something. That helps me with knee pain. Then you can drunk post with me....lol I know all about knee pain and I am sorry you are hurting. Honestly all I do for mine is tylenol and Ibuprofen. I use Bio Freeze when it gets bad and that seems to help a little. The rest of the time I just have learned to live with the aches.TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #23 June 3, 2007 I tried the route of alcohol to numb the pain and it doesn't work either _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #24 June 3, 2007 Try a muscle relaxer if you have one...that also helps.TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #25 June 3, 2007 Don't have one _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites