Nataly 38 #1 April 28, 2011 "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,390 #2 April 28, 2011 You've scheduled 7 hours of tunnel time in the States? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #3 April 28, 2011 My boyfriend was in the cafe next to Argana... Just makes you re-evaluate what really matters in life."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #4 April 28, 2011 I'm glad he's okay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #5 April 28, 2011 Hopefully he is not being looked for being the one responsible... You just never know, the person that detonated it might have actually been in that same cafe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,390 #6 April 29, 2011 Dammit, 'Twardo! Quit deleting your funny wisecracks! "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,050 #7 April 29, 2011 Hi Nat, Long-time friend Jay Gile ( who was just on the SOS 55-way ) & his oldest son are currently in Morocco on some type of desert bike ride/tour. Hope all is well with them, JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #8 April 29, 2011 Quote Hopefully he is not being looked for being the one responsible... The police would have a hard time tracking down and interviewing the thousands of people in the square during the explosion... When I finally got through to him yesterday I was so relieved... I know he goes to that cafe all the time... Honestly, we go through life feeling upset about such stupid stuff... We should spend more time focusing on what we *do* have because in an instant everything can change. I feel for the poor bastards who were in the wrong place at the wrong time yesterday - I just can't understand how anyone would want to bring this kind of tragedy into the lives of so many people. It's really sad."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #9 April 29, 2011 Quote My boyfriend was in the cafe next to Argana... Just makes you re-evaluate what really matters in life. 7 hours of tunnel time. THAT'S what really mattersBTW Glad ya mates not dead or hurtYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #10 April 30, 2011 I never got these Arabs and blowing themselves up? Maybe it's because I'm Persian. But really? I mean really? Blow your self up get a hand full of Virgins? Who the hell wants ONE virgin! Let alone what 70? I wish these morons would just off themselves out in the desert. Genetic dead ends. Glad your boy friend is OK.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #11 April 30, 2011 Inside a school for suicide bombers I can understand how children can be brainwashed... I can't understand the monsters who teach these children "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,390 #12 April 30, 2011 QuoteI never got these Arabs and blowing themselves up? Maybe it's because I'm Persian. But really? I mean really? Blow your self up get a hand full of Virgins? Who the hell wants ONE virgin! Let alone what 70? I wish these morons would just off themselves out in the desert. Genetic dead ends. Glad your boy friend is OK. Quote … Presented by former CIA spy, Robert Baer, who returns to a former theatre of operations, the Middle East, to trace the origins of the modern day bomber. There is no good news here for the fearful and uncertain in the West, but Baer does present a clear landscape of where and how the “pathological virus” has thrived and from whence its notions of honour and glory emerged. The first film starts with the fascinating story of the world’s first suicide bomber, who arose in the Iran-Iraq war and is now a hero in Iran. Hossein Fahmideh was a tender 13-year-old in 1980, when he threw himself under an Iraqi tank and blew up himself and the tank’s occupants. His highly decorated grave is in the graveyard of martyrs just outside Tehran, which Baer visits. “Like the city of the dead” he says. Baer points out that the suicide of such martyrs was different from today’s in that it was a battlefield strategy in an often gruesome trench war. Those Iranians who knowingly killed themselves would have done so in conditions where death or serious injury was a likelihood anyway, and for a cause around which an entire nation was rallying. Hossein Fahmideh was Iranian. Isn't Iran what was once known as "Persia"? Ref: http://instantworlddomination.com/islam/cult-of-the-suicide-bomber-part-1/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #13 April 30, 2011 Yes Iran was once known as Persia. It's name was changed to appease Hitler. Iran = Arian Go figure right? And then the Arabs came in and they really didn't like the Persian culture and really liked the name Iran. So go figure. But yeah, I remember that story from back when I was a little kid in Iran. It was not a fun place to be a kid. Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kittikat 0 #14 May 2, 2011 Quote I can understand how children can be brainwashed... I can't understand the monsters who teach these children Those monsters were children once too. Someone taught them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #15 May 2, 2011 It's not education but ignorance and poverty that usually breeds monsters like that. And it's the ignorance and poverty of the parents that lets them let go of their children so easily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #16 May 2, 2011 Quote Quote I can understand how children can be brainwashed... I can't understand the monsters who teach these children Those monsters were children once too. Someone taught them. You know, I thought about that... That the perpetrators were once brainwashed as well and that it was all a vicious cycle... Except that I believe there is a point in your life where you cannot just keep doing/thinking what you were taught without being responsible for your own actions. There is a point where you *are* able to critically evaluate/question things. Children cannot do this, but adults can."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #17 May 2, 2011 You need to put yourself in the mindset of those who would do such a thing, in order to fight the enemy you must be able to think as they do. Do you ever wonder why some of us seem to be very reserved in our emotions? It is because we understand what is going on in this world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #18 May 2, 2011 The Iran Iraq war cost each side 1million people. It was not a "nice" war. It was dirty very much like WW1. Why this kid did what he did all those years back? And why all those guys did what they did? We can argue that they were being patriotic for it was during a time of war. But in a time of peace? To kill civilians? Bad karma.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,346 #19 May 2, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I can understand how children can be brainwashed... I can't understand the monsters who teach these children Those monsters were children once too. Someone taught them. You know, I thought about that... That the perpetrators were once brainwashed as well and that it was all a vicious cycle... Except that I believe there is a point in your life where you cannot just keep doing/thinking what you were taught without being responsible for your own actions. There is a point where you *are* able to critically evaluate/question things. Children cannot do this, but adults can. You are only able to think critically if you have been taught to do so. North Korea is a great (although rather extreme) example of this. The people have been indocrinated for their entire lives that the government must be in complete control of everything. That's all they know. Many of the refugees that escape can't grasp the concept of free markets, capitalism, or even free speech. They didn't like what they left behind, but are moving into a world that is entirely alien to what they know."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #20 May 2, 2011 Quote You are only able to think critically if you have been taught to do so. I don't really agree with this, but one thing I will say is that when all your options are bad (or when you can't think of or imagine other options), I can see how any kind of reform would be difficult. "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roxxx 0 #21 May 2, 2011 We hunt our own kind? People create systems and then (I am told) a system can grow a heart beat of it's own, and the system then runs the people. (Time for updates to systems.) KISS (Keep It Simple and Safe), remember there is always exceptions to a rule. My Blessings: Clothes on my back, roof over my head, and food on the table... thank you to... (open-for-interpretation) In every moment, we have info downloaded to us. Use the de-brief, "Change it, Shrug it, or Accept it" for the next moment. Blue Skies and best wishes to you and your own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kittikat 0 #22 May 3, 2011 One quote I read a while back, that I really liked, said (I'm paraphrasing) - some problems are so complex in nature that it takes an informed and educated individual to not have a strong opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
