piisfish 135 #1 March 1, 2012 so, it is not a chemtrail, not a departing missile, might not be extraterrestrial.. so what is it ? Is it JArno to "celebrate" the end of WingsuitNews.com in style ? nederlandvanboven.vpro.nl/ufo-boven-de-waddenzee.html whatever it is, it is cool scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #2 March 1, 2012 That is pretty interesting! Don't know what to make of it though."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 262 #3 March 1, 2012 The video does highlight one of the issues of watching UFOs: Apparent motion. When zoomed in, it looks like the object is moving quickly. When zoomed out, it is moving across the visual area in a similar direction as the ground is moving, but faster. Which suggests it is a small, nearby, slow moving object, being passed by the helicopter -- not a far, large, fast moving object. (I won't try to study the video in detail, but it's more like kids balloons in a cluster, some collapsed, some not, or something like that.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #4 March 1, 2012 It looks like it was taken from a fast moving airplane at a high(ish) altitude. And, I would bet a good amount of money that it was a small helium balloon. Relative motion is an awesome thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 73 #5 March 1, 2012 The Cineflex camera operator is Evert Cloetens, a skydiver from belgium. He also has no clue what it is we're looking at. Though the dropzone of Texel is nearby, its not wingsuits (sadly). Though we do have some awesome Cineflex shots as part of the German 'Deutchland von Oben' TV series (this UFO was accidently caught during the making of the Dutch version). More on that online in a month or two JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,150 #6 March 1, 2012 The write up on that website lists a balloon as one of the frequent suggestions, I think that is correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 38 #7 March 1, 2012 A balloon makes sense. If you look closely, there are lines that come down off the edges and meet underneath, as if it has a small gondola or camera.lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
femTo 0 #8 March 2, 2012 it's a fly passing by real close :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #9 March 3, 2012 First impression I got is that it looks like a F-117.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #10 March 3, 2012 That's just bullshit. Everyone knows that all real UFOs only appear over rural areas of the United States. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #11 March 3, 2012 QuoteFirst impression I got is that it looks like a F-117. Uh, go get your eyes checked.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #12 March 3, 2012 Yup. The F117 has been decomissioned for some years now. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #13 March 3, 2012 Quote Yup. The F117 has been decomissioned for some years now. Yeah, right. If it's an asset that has value, it's going to be used, decommissioned or not. Might be in the "black" part (i.e., CIA, etc.) of the budget, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #14 March 3, 2012 QuoteUh, go get your eyes checked. Second impression I got was that it was a big bug that flew across the lens.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #15 March 3, 2012 Quote Quote Yup. The F117 has been decomissioned for some years now. Yeah, right. If it's an asset that has value, it's going to be used, decommissioned or not. Might be in the "black" part (i.e., CIA, etc.) of the budget, though. your tin foil hat is leaking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #16 March 3, 2012 Quoteyour tin foil hat is leaking. I'll have you know it's lined with lead. Pretty solid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #17 March 3, 2012 It's contrail, not chemtrail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #18 March 3, 2012 Quote Quote Yup. The F117 has been decomissioned for some years now. Yeah, right. If it's an asset that has value, it's going to be used, decommissioned or not. Might be in the "black" part (i.e., CIA, etc.) of the budget, though. There may, in fact, be one or two flying secretly around in the dead of night over some high value target somewhere in the Middle East. One flying in broad daylight in the Netherlands and coming within eyesight of any other aircraft? Uh . . . they would not have under any circumstances done that when they were officially operational. There is only a theoretical non-zero chance of them doing that today, but for all practical purposes that number really is zero.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #19 March 3, 2012 I wasn't suggesting it flies over Holland. Just that "decommissioned" isn't the last word. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #20 March 3, 2012 QuoteI wasn't suggesting it flies over Holland. Just that "decommissioned" isn't the last word. But, of course. The other thing is the Netherlands video looks nothing like an F-117 from any conceivable angle.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #21 March 3, 2012 QuoteQuoteI wasn't suggesting it flies over Holland. Just that "decommissioned" isn't the last word. But, of course. The other thing is the Netherlands video looks nothing like an F-117 from any conceivable angle. It's a UFO...what do you expect?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #22 March 3, 2012 Quote Quote Yup. The F117 has been decomissioned for some years now. Yeah, right. If it's an asset that has value, it's going to be used, decommissioned or not. Might be in the "black" part (i.e., CIA, etc.) of the budget, though. By the first gulf war, it was already considered obsolete. it was great technology in the 70's and early 80's, but there's better ways to be stealthy._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #23 March 3, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Yup. The F117 has been decomissioned for some years now. Yeah, right. If it's an asset that has value, it's going to be used, decommissioned or not. Might be in the "black" part (i.e., CIA, etc.) of the budget, though. By the first gulf war, it was already considered obsolete. it was great technology in the 70's and early 80's, but there's better ways to be stealthy. Yet variants of the U-2 continue to fly. Go fig.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #24 March 3, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Yup. The F117 has been decomissioned for some years now. Yeah, right. If it's an asset that has value, it's going to be used, decommissioned or not. Might be in the "black" part (i.e., CIA, etc.) of the budget, though. By the first gulf war, it was already considered obsolete. it was great technology in the 70's and early 80's, but there's better ways to be stealthy. Yet variants of the U-2 continue to fly. Go fig. They are not stealth aircraft. Their "stealth" is a product of altitude. We still use B52's, P3 Orions also. The F117 claim of fame was "stealth", which it's manner is stealth is generations past obsoletism. The RCS technology used on these aircraft are older than the technology used on the common Navy destroyer twenty years ago. Today, it's just a high maintenance, low payload bomber. Now UAV's. . ._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #25 March 4, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Yup. The F117 has been decomissioned for some years now. Yeah, right. If it's an asset that has value, it's going to be used, decommissioned or not. Might be in the "black" part (i.e., CIA, etc.) of the budget, though. By the first gulf war, it was already considered obsolete. it was great technology in the 70's and early 80's, but there's better ways to be stealthy. Yet variants of the U-2 continue to fly. Go fig. They are not stealth aircraft. Their "stealth" is a product of altitude. We still use B52's, P3 Orions also. The F117 claim of fame was "stealth", which it's manner is stealth is generations past obsoletism. The RCS technology used on these aircraft are older than the technology used on the common Navy destroyer twenty years ago. Today, it's just a high maintenance, low payload bomber. Now UAV's. . . Almost certainly. That said, there may be a reason to keep one or two around under the CIA for reasons people like you and me can't think of right at this moment.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites