jcd11235 0 #26 July 23, 2012 Quote Than 16%? It could be 100ft high and you wouldn't be getting up it easily. ??? 16% isn't that steep if it doesn't go very far horizontally. That grade over a long distance would be very challenging indeed.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #27 July 23, 2012 Quote Quote Than 16%? It could be 100ft high and you wouldn't be getting up it easily. ??? 16% isn't that steep if it doesn't go very far horizontally. That grade over a long distance would be very challenging indeed. 16% is steep regardless of distance.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #28 July 23, 2012 QuoteIt looks much harder than multi geared bikes but to each their own. I ride a singlespeed, and enjoy it. But it's not fixed gear. I can, and do, coast. Riding in one gear isn't that hard. You quickly develop a very wide range of pedaling cadences at which you're comfortable. I've actually considered piecing together a fixed gear bike, but if I do it, it will be based around a three speed hub.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #29 July 23, 2012 Quote 16% is steep regardless of distance. Whatever. You like a granny gear! Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #30 July 23, 2012 Quote As you, Krisanne, know, he's definitely not a hipster. He's a hard charging parkour athlete, very dedicated the staying in shape. Well, it's been a couple of years since I've seen Brett. For all I know he's covered himself with tattoos, gone vegan, and started wearing retro glasses, mixed plaids, and knit caps in the summer. (Glad to hear that's not the case)."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #31 July 23, 2012 >16% is steep regardless of distance. Yeah. But there's a 25% grade on the trail I usually ride that I barely notice because it's short and at the end of a long downhill. Now put that at the top of a long climb and it's going to be painful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #32 July 23, 2012 Quote Quote 16% is steep regardless of distance. Whatever. You like a granny gear! Actually, I have a fairly weird setup... Compact 50/34 up front, with 11-23 in the back.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,384 #33 July 23, 2012 Quote Quote Quote 16% is steep regardless of distance. Whatever. You like a granny gear! Actually, I have a fairly weird setup... Compact 50/34 up front, with 11-23 in the back. Ugh! No wonder you don't like climbing."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,255 #34 July 23, 2012 Quote Quote Than 16%? It could be 100ft high and you wouldn't be getting up it easily. ??? 16% isn't that steep if it doesn't go very far horizontally. Then you don't know what 16% is.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #35 July 23, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Than 16%? It could be 100ft high and you wouldn't be getting up it easily. ??? 16% isn't that steep if it doesn't go very far horizontally. Then you don't know what 16% is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grades_degrees.svg Yes, I do.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #36 July 23, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote 16% is steep regardless of distance. Whatever. You like a granny gear! Actually, I have a fairly weird setup... Compact 50/34 up front, with 11-23 in the back. Ugh! No wonder you don't like climbing. It get me up the local hills, including Lemon. The only gear I wished I had sometimes was a bigger one (53/11) for the group rides when we get going in the 40s... Spinning at 115rpm is only fun for so long ! lolRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,255 #37 July 23, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Than 16%? It could be 100ft high and you wouldn't be getting up it easily. ??? 16% isn't that steep if it doesn't go very far horizontally. Then you don't know what 16% is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grades_degrees.svg Exactly - it's bloody steep.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #38 July 23, 2012 Quote Quote Quote 16% is steep regardless of distance. Whatever. You like a granny gear! Actually, I have a fairly weird setup... Compact 50/34 up front, with 11-23 in the back. I ride 36/18. It's low enough that I can climb the not-so-steep hills in the city with a load on my back (when commuting) in a headwind, but high enough that I can cruise along at ~30 km/hr on level ground without spinning out when riding for fun. I am considering a Sturmey Archer 2 speed kickback hub, though, geared to be a little lower and a little higher than what I have right now. I've heard mixed reviews, though, so maybe not.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,255 #39 July 23, 2012 Quote Quote Quote 16% is steep regardless of distance. Whatever. You like a granny gear! Actually, I have a fairly weird setup... Compact 50/34 up front, with 11-23 in the back. I've been riding with 53/39-12/25 for quite a few years, just changed to 50/34-11/25 on a far superior climbing bike. Round here I don't use the 34-25 much at all but when I do I'm glad I've got itStill be tempted when Campag release their 52/36 rings though...Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #40 July 23, 2012 QuoteExactly - it's bloody steep. It's steep enough to know it's a hill, but unless it's long, it's not that bad.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,255 #41 July 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteExactly - it's bloody steep. It's steep enough to know it's a hill, but unless it's long, it's not that bad. We're going to be going in circles here, you don't know what 16% is.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #42 July 23, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteExactly - it's bloody steep. It's steep enough to know it's a hill, but unless it's long, it's not that bad. We're going to be going in circles here, you don't know what 16% is. I know exactly what 16% grade is. It may indeed seem steep to you. To me, not so much. On the other hand, to me, any climb that lasts more than 0.4 -0.5 km is long.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,255 #43 July 23, 2012 Quote To me, not so much. Haha What is steep? Quote On the other hand, to me, any climb that lasts more than 0.4 -0.5 km is long. 0.4km at what grade? (It's just occurred to me that I may be being unfair here - you might ride your hills really slowly)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #44 July 24, 2012 Quote 0.4km at what grade? Pretty much any grade. I'm used to short climbs and short descents. My commute has one particular climb (that's not steep at all) that goes for 1.5 - 2 km. That's much longer than other climbs I typically make. At half that length, it would still probably be the longest climb I encounter (semi-) regularly. Quote (It's just occurred to me that I may be being unfair here - you might ride your hills really slowly) My fun rides typically average 22 - 23 km/hr, based on start and finish times, so that includes stop signs/lights, rest breaks, climbs, descents, everything. I don't use a cycling computer out of principle, so I really can't give more precise numbers than that. I'm not riding a road bike (and I'm old), so I'm fine with those speeds.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #45 July 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteExactly - it's bloody steep. It's steep enough to know it's a hill, but unless it's long, it's not that bad. We're going to be going in circles here, you don't know what 16% is. I know exactly what 16% grade is. It may indeed seem steep to you. To me, not so much. On the other hand, to me, any climb that lasts more than 0.4 -0.5 km is long. are you guys arguing the same thing here, Grade 16 is not the same as 16 degrees.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #46 July 24, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteExactly - it's bloody steep. It's steep enough to know it's a hill, but unless it's long, it's not that bad. We're going to be going in circles here, you don't know what 16% is. I know exactly what 16% grade is. It may indeed seem steep to you. To me, not so much. On the other hand, to me, any climb that lasts more than 0.4 -0.5 km is long. are you guys arguing the same thing here, Grade 16 is not the same as 16 degrees. No Squeak, we're all talking 16 percent. And jc: if 16% ain't too much for you, time to get a racing license and find a hill climb TT ;-)Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #47 July 24, 2012 QuoteAnd jc: if 16% ain't too much for you, time to get a racing license and find a hill climb TT ;-) 16% over the distances that Ryoder referenced is too much for me. Frankly, I'm amazed that anyone who cycles regularly thinks 16% for ~0.4 km is challenging. The only racing I do (or have any desire to do) is Cat. 6.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #48 July 24, 2012 Quote Yeah! Wally's World has'em, so its not cool anymore. Cool. I wonder if Wally world could make an entire hipster scenster kit and make that trend die out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #49 July 24, 2012 Quote Well, it's been a couple of years since I've seen Brett. For all I know he's covered himself with tattoos, gone vegan, and started wearing retro glasses, mixed plaids, and knit caps in the summer. Nope, same nice kid only 6'3", 165 and solid muscle. Those ones you describe are who he laughs at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,255 #50 July 24, 2012 Quote Frankly, I'm amazed that anyone who cycles regularly thinks 16% for ~0.4 km is challenging. 16% for 0.4 km is a height gain of over 200ft. Can you show me on a map any hill you cycle which rises 200ft or more in .4km or less? While you do that, I'm going to head out for a few hours and cycle a bunch of unbelievably long yet extremely shallow hills. Or normal cat 4s, to Remster and RyoderDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
