Aliens, I dont understand

[Zep 0]

Couldn't sleep the other night and was watching the discovery channel,
some doc about Aliens an all that stuff.
Well I got to wondering if Einstein is right and we can't travel
faster than the speed of light,
How do they get here?.

Gone fishing

[Andy9o8 0]

Illegally, for the most part.

[CorvusCrypto 0]

Zep

Couldn't sleep the other night and was watching the discovery channel,
some doc about Aliens an all that stuff.
Well I got to wondering if Einstein is right and we can't travel
faster than the speed of light,
How do they get here?.

by bending the rules probably xD. Honestly no one can know but I know that we've been able to work out field energy equations that say we can theoretically "warp" miniscule parts of space time. Essentially we can't travel across space time faster than the speed of light, but we can cheat and move the destination closer to us. Einstein and Rosen termed their idea of this as an einstein-Rosen bridge.

then there's the albucier drive which does this warping, but around the ship only so that the ship has a net ftl speed, but is not traveling across space time faster than light. Also theoretical of course

then again some theories say that space time involves higher dimensions which may be easier to manipulate for ftl travel. Who knows maybe they just chill in cryopreservation for a million year journey

"I would rather be ashes than dust. I would rather be a majestic eagle riding a missile across the sky with sparklers than be an old couch potato." - Jack London (paraphrased)

[hcsvader 1]

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How do they get here?.

Its not THAT far from the dark side of the moon.

Have you seen my pants?
it"s a rough life, Livin' the dream
>:)

[Zep 0]

Andy9o8

Illegally, for the most part.

Ohh that's funny. Now if you could just warp to Carnegie...

Gone fishing

[muff528 3]

A. They would have to know about us.

B. They would actually have to have the technology to make the trip.

C. They would have to find us interesting enough, above all the other multi-billions of places in the universe, to use their space-travel resources to get here rather than Tatooine or Arrakis.

Even if they have some kind of "warp" or "bridge" technology to physically make the trip, they might discover places they might want to visit by using old-fashioned light-speed telescopes or other similar detectors. If they are significantly distant, they might have "seen" our solar system as it was hundreds, or even many thousands of years ago. Even if they could somehow scan the universe in "real time", it might not be worth the trip for a discoverer that would have access to billions and billions of other places or civilizations in the universe that could be far more interesting or profitable. Either way, we are likely not interesting enough for an alien Isabella to finance the trip.

If they exist, then there is nothing ruling out the possibility that millions or billions of other civilizations also exist. To a civilization that has "space-warp" technology, I doubt we, among all others in all the other galaxies, are special enough to visit. ....unless, of course, they have intercepted our broadcasts of "Dallas" or "Seinfeld".

[ryoder 1,384]

muff528

C. They would have to find us interesting enough, above all the other multi-billions of places in the universe, to use their space-travel resources to get here rather than Tatooine or Arrakis.

They come for our produce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYxGA8QaoC0

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[CorvusCrypto 0]

With all them farmers' abduction stories out there, I don't think they're after our produce

"I would rather be ashes than dust. I would rather be a majestic eagle riding a missile across the sky with sparklers than be an old couch potato." - Jack London (paraphrased)

[quade 3]

The idea that there are extraterrestrials that would even care enough about us to make the physical journey is some kind of special hubris.

Currently we know of no technology that could make the journey to even the closest star a feasible option. Beyond which our presence in the universe would only be vaguely detectable within the last 100 or so years, so any extraterrestrials interested in us would also have to live inside that speed of light radius. If they did, we'd also already know about them as well.

We are not that important.

It's a little like finding out you have a cousin twice removed living in Bumfuc, Iowa. You'd ring him up on the phone before driving there if you even cared at all.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[yoink 321]

muff528

If they exist, then there is nothing ruling out the possibility that millions or billions of other civilizations also exist. To a civilization that has "space-warp" technology, I doubt we, among all others in all the other galaxies, are special enough to visit. ....unless, of course, they have intercepted our broadcasts of "Dallas" or "Seinfeld".

I still find it unlikely that in an effectively infinitely sized universe, with the timescales of billions upon billions of years that civilizations of relatively similar levels of advancement would chance upon each other in the same timeframe. Far more likely one would find amoeba, or extinct civilizations if you're out exploring I'd think.

[Zep 0]

Great answer, I'm lucky enough to live somewhere where
on cloud less nights especially in the winter I can see a star filled sky
and just make out a nebula.

Gone fishing

[jgoose71 0]

Infinite Improbability Drive.

But they might be a zucchini or paisley couch when they get here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyYS-GzBSIg&list=RDnCf53ses22w

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