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billvon 2,473
I wonder maybe the same rigger and the same turn from the canopies? Did they ever figure this problem out? I wonder if it was a rigger issue there? What did PISA say about it?
PhreeZone 15
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faulknerwn 37
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I've got 9 rides on Tempos. Far from a piece of crap, my Tempo appears to be a well-constructed quality reserve. It's always opened cleanly on-heading, is a docile flyer, and lands nicely. I've not noticed any turning tendency.
Bob
Dang you've got me beat! I've got 15 rides total - 8 of which are on Tempos. I've ridden 2 different Tempo 120's and have a as-of-yet-unjumped Tempo 150 in another rig. I hated my Dash-M 109 reserve (no flare) and swapped it for a Tempo because I've liked them so much in the past. Mine lands very well, flies straight and is a very good quality.
W
QuoteI've ridden 2 different Tempo 120's and have a as-of-yet-unjumped Tempo 150 in another rig.
I have one reserve ride on a Tempo 150 and a as-of-yet-unjumped Tempo 120. The Tempo 150 opened on-heading, flew great, and landed fine. ^
Spy38W 0
QuoteI'm not sure about the older entries, but I know the one I am refering to is one that the jumper was the rigger on it. He got his first save on his second pack job or so iirc. I just found it extremely odd that some people are saying they had a left turn, others are saying a right turn.
Hrm, mine works great. Low front riser pressure, but the rears aren't very effective compared to my main for some reason.
The only problem I had on my last chop last year (the FX) was when I was hanging in rears to try to see where everything was landing (F-ing corn) it got a bit mushy and didn't like it much, but overall no problems.
P.S. Were you talking about me, or Scotty?
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Hook high, flare on time
PhreeZone 15
He was talking of Static lining it as a main to verify the issue.
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meatbomb 0
I definitely thought that the canopy had a turn when I jumped it in Eloy, indeed I was flying at quarter to half brakes with one toggle to fly it straight. I had Brian at Bombproof Rigging check out the canopy, and there were apparently no issues.
On the subsequent jump back at home, the canopy appeared to be flying straight...
Conclusions:
1) The Canopy has an inbuilt turn, and I was uneven in the harness on the second jump.
OR
2) The Canopy is perfect, and I was uneven in the harness on the first jump.
Which do you think was more likely?
PS I still jump the Tempo 210, because I know it works, and will save my life, and I have just purchased a Smart for my new rig.
Swoopert, CS-Aiiiiiii!
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As for cheap gear like this and tempos...i'll go back to my origional statement.
Ya get what ya pay for!!! Latz peeps. (Hey I bet you can apply this common statement to more than skydiving gear!!!)
QuoteI flew a Talon once, took a month for the black and blue marks to heal in my legs. Good opening on the canopy and everything.
Explain that. Canopy opens nice and soft so how do you get the brusies?
QuoteYa get what ya pay for!!! Latz peeps. (Hey I bet you can apply this common statement to more than skydiving gear!!!)
Once again I have some really expensive penicls to sell ya. That is not true in so many things in life. Just because something costs more does not make it the best. Would you be interested in $20.00 dollar pull uo cords. I will put them in a .10 case paint a cool logo on it and they will be better because they are more expenisive. That is your logic. Doesn't fly with me.
Kris 0
QuoteI flew a Talon once, took a month for the black and blue marks to heal in my legs. Good opening on the canopy and everything.
Funny....I jumped a Talon for my first 100-ish jumps and never had any comfort or bruising from it.
As for cheap gear like this and tempos...i'll go back to my origional statement.
Ya get what ya pay for!!! Latz peeps. (Hey I bet you can apply this common statement to more than skydiving gear!!!)
Those aren't statements, only opinions. My Tempo works just fine, thanks. Now, my expensive Stiletto, that's another can of worms entirely.
Getting what you pay for is never an absolute.
Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™
fundgh 0
QuoteGetting what you pay for is never an absolute.
I agree with you here, but it wouldn't become a saying if it weren't commonplace. I understand what he is saying, and have heard similar advice. I went from a Tempo to a PDR because of recommendations by instructors with many jumps. No blanket statement is true across the board, but his opinion is not completely off the wall. OF coarse there are people who have not had any problems with their tempos, and there are people that think they suck.
I have heard from experienced skydivers that the Tempo has some inherent problems and it is worth the extra money to buy a PDR (or other). That is my opinion based on other people's opinions.
David
QuoteThis is a forum for discussing and learning from incidents. If you'd like to start a thread on Tempo reserves, or on people with little experience recommending or dissing gear, please do so in the appropriate forum.
well said billvon
should put this at the top of every discusion thread!
QuoteI did shove a Tempo 150 up my ass once... it opened like shit!!!!
Another useful remark from the..................and a good fit I bet.
Chuck
QuoteI did shove a Tempo 150 up my ass once... it opened like shit!!!!
Ladies and gentlemen, may I present the bringer of the utimate wisdom, the man who said "Ya get what ya pay for!"
Kinda like his advice.
You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.
billvon 2,473
Had a girlfriend once who weighed around 100lbs and was 5'9". She got bruises all over from the student gear even though our cruddy old DC5's opened really softly; the rig just fit her so badly that the loads would bruise her even during soft openings (and she had no padding at all.)
Relax their genious.
He has no vested interest in TEmpo's and neither do I. They don't even make them anymore!
JP is out from behind the phone and in the air more then you are I am sure.
You made a stament that isn't true and he called you on it. Just becuase something costs more doens't make it better.
Is a Javelin "better" because it costs more and takes longer to get? NO
Is a Talon any less better because it costs less then a JAv? NO
They are both safe rigs, both are good quality. One isn't better because it is more expensive. THat is just wrong thinking on your part.
Since the PD reserve is more expensive does it mean it is better then a Smart reserve from Aerodyne?
If you think that way, I have some $10.00 pencils to sell you. They are way better then the cheap ones form Wall Mart.
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