marks2065

so true - and they only have to put up hundreds of millions to make sure those millions stay true government in action http://www.treehugger.com/culture/by-the-numbers-super-bowl-facts-and-figures.html this one day is huge for the state and local business, kinda make the $350 million investment seem worth it.

this is on the state level and is something the state will use and make money on, this is not socialism.

This is corporate welfare, plain and simple. (so are all those government loans to business). If this was such a great investment for future revenues then there would be no problem getting the team owners or other investors to put up all the money required. the state will be using the facility for high school and trade functions, just like the metrodome has been used by the state many many times in the last 30 years. it is a state facility that brings in revenue from all over the country. how much did minnesota make on the superbowl a few years ago? that was just 1 event.

it's amazing how when socialism turns to sports how people change teams the pro-"I want everyone in my state to pay for a stadium whether they want one or not" nuts were in force in the city all this week - it was overwhelming and they were just as demeaning and angry and unreasoning to their opposition as you'd see from any rabid lefty demonstrater the state is only paying about 350 million and it will be repaid in revenues, this is how business works, invest now, make profit later. the state is just entering a business opertunity that should make it a profit. If the vikings leave town it will cost the state millions in tax revenue, jobs, and welfare benifits related to lost jobs. this is just securing the state for future money. since it is on a state level with future financial rewards I think it is good. I am not a chicago fan even though I live in illinois, but I supported the soldier field, and comisky park rebuilds. (though the soldier field rebuild looks like shit). I did not change teams as you suggested, this is not scialism., this is an investment into the future of the state. people get government loans all the time to start or build a business, this is no different. Rather like the feds supporting GM and Chrysler, and then getting paid back while keeping lots of jobs in the USA? Or more like the White Sox owners getting rich off Cellular Field, while the taxpayers take a bath? no this is on a state level no national and the people of the state can do want they would like with their money. the fed government should not be involved in private enterprise. the state would loose millions if the vikings left, there it is in their best interest to work a deal that favors the tax payers in the long run. they are only fronting a third of the costs and many high school and tade functions will be held there. it is a plus for the state. The states have different functions than the fed government and the fed gov has stepped beyond it's boarders. as far as comiskypark, if the state was to stupid to put up money without a paybeack from the stadium that is their fault and the people of illinois for electing the shitheads. maybe the state of illinois needs to get rid of the corrupt polititians that we have.

The city and state would be using the stadium also. the metradome has been used for several hundred events making the city and state money for 30 years, this would be the same. It is better than loosing the team and its revenue. Look what it cost minn. when they lost the hockey team. With the Dodgers selling for 2B, I think we're past the days where a city should be shelling out half the cost on a billion dollar project. Or perhaps they should just get their share when the current owners sell, since a team with a new stadium is worth substantially more. The economic benefit of a pro team is a bit less clear cut that you suggest. Much of that money would be spent on other local interests. Oakland definitely took a bath on the Raider move. And little prevents these teams from moving anyhow. the lease dictates the moves backed by the owners. And there is a clause if the vikings get sold before the end of the lease, (unless they to it out on the last vote)

it's amazing how when socialism turns to sports how people change teams the pro-"I want everyone in my state to pay for a stadium whether they want one or not" nuts were in force in the city all this week - it was overwhelming and they were just as demeaning and angry and unreasoning to their opposition as you'd see from any rabid lefty demonstrater the state is only paying about 350 million and it will be repaid in revenues, this is how business works, invest now, make profit later. the state is just entering a business opertunity that should make it a profit. If the vikings leave town it will cost the state millions in tax revenue, jobs, and welfare benifits related to lost jobs. this is just securing the state for future money. since it is on a state level with future financial rewards I think it is good. I am not a chicago fan even though I live in illinois, but I supported the soldier field, and comisky park rebuilds. (though the soldier field rebuild looks like shit). I did not change teams as you suggested, this is not scialism., this is an investment into the future of the state. people get government loans all the time to start or build a business, this is no different.

UAW voting Republican? Yeah, *that's* gonna happen. More sugar cookies, please! The UAW as an organization would never vote for the rep's, they use the corruption and money from the dems to stay in power over the workers.

The city and state would be using the stadium also. the metradome has been used for several hundred events making the city and state money for 30 years, this would be the same. It is better than loosing the team and its revenue. Look what it cost minn. when they lost the hockey team.

If unemployment is so high, why are there any jobs advertised? I guess there are a few people that just don't want to work

why not just let them drill where there is the most oil? instead of drilling where there is the least oil?

Sorry but he is closer to your beliefs being a democrat. Maybe we should ban democrats from having guns. Or pigs with wings? so am I, I might have to change my voter card to dem because the left keeps telling me that the right are the violent ones.

Sorry but he is closer to your beliefs being a democrat. Maybe we should ban democrats from having guns. We don't need guns. We have quiche. And fake bombs to blow up bridges, but we all know that the left is always non violent and the right is the cause of all violence

Sorry but he is closer to your beliefs being a democrat. Maybe we should ban democrats from having guns.

Ok lets be specific just for you. oil production on federally controlled lands is down 14% because oil companies can not get permits from this administration to drill for oil in those areas.

A pig with wings is still a pig. from what I read I think this was a very troubled person that switched parties because he couldn't relate to the reb's as well as he related to the dem's. That would tell me nothing except he was troubled, to you though it was a republican nutcase. but remember he did not shoot anyone while he was a republican, only after aligning himself with the left did he kill someone.

What part of "according to the American Wind Energy Association" and "according to Labor Department statistics" dont you understand? Ever hear of Goggle? when you don't have a good defense, you attack the credibility of the source, it is the liberal way.

The facts that we gave them the weapons, they used them , and they would not let inspectors in seems to be lost on many that bash Bush for the war. they may or may not have had them after we went in is not what is important, that we could not confirm the status of the weapons is.

I believe that most of the attendees had to purchase their own tickets, and probably provide for their own transportation. It's a fundraiser to give out scholarships to journalism students. I doubt that a significant portion of tax money was spent on the event. Though perhaps in the 92 years that it's been going on, a little has been spent... I sort of like the idea of taking an evening for the White House to lighten up a bit. I was never a supporter of Bush, but I recall enjoying some of his speeches at the correspondents' dinners. my point is that this economy is slowing, the government is spending us to death, and all these elites want to do is eat, drink and party. You are correct that we need to have some light hearted times, but it gets really frustrating watching these idiots suck us dry, have parties and take vacations. I think a little less traveling and golf for the white house and a little more work in drastically cutting spending would be in order at this time.

who paid for Obama and the rest to get there? there was alot of our money spent there.

We the people are broke and they are spending our tax dollars at a record pace on stupid shit like this.

It is the 49% that don't pay their fair share that pisses me off

And many kids are killed every day in the city, maybe we should ban cities.

actually they are only wrong on days that end in day

must have been the global warming keeping them at home. :-P

In case you haven't noticed, both parties regularly lie, increase the size of government, and build on the debt. Despite the seeming hopelessness of it, voting still has some small value in that it gives us a tiny range of choice we can use to vote tactically. the problem we have is all those that vote for candidates that promise and deliver on free stuff, the government has been giving so much free stuff that it is broke.