BrokenR1

It all depends, who is Mark and what is he trading you in return? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

But is it dvd ripped? I hate that camera crap. I guess these guys could have had it but I don't go very often. I'm at KAF, how about you? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

I'm signed up. Just passing the time now. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

Well that's not what today is for! What are you thinking? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

Yay!!! Harry Potter!!! I can probably pick up a DVD quality bootleg tomorrow at the bazaar! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

You're the one who wanted me to re-read your post for information that wasn't there. I obliged. It's still there if you would like to see it again. What personal BS and what "best I can do"? By your posts you haven't taken much time so I don't feel too bad. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

Curious to see what others are using or know of for flotation gear. I did find a post that someone used this. http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&partNumber=50112&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults Any other options or what you think about this? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

Looked like those clouds where moving along pretty quickly to me. I've seen those thuderbirds doing slow flybys at less than 30 mph ground speed in their fighters which was cool. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

Let me help you out. Show me where I am. Of course you can use it. Since you have no original thought you may as well use what you got. If you feel that strongly about it get a BSR created before trying to legislate it. I give much more weight to what davelepka saying then yourself. At least he brought up the non-fatalities being higher. I had been thinking about that and I'd be interested in numbers of canopy collisions involving downsizing faster then recommendations. But guess what? It doesn't matter. I'm not in a position to make or challenge any laws and am not in a position for my opinion to affect the community. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

Which would you guys recommend? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

Yes, and I hope so. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

Per what you you posted they were going down. I was only looking at the claim presented. Several problems with that. First is I already brought up collisions so bringing up my own argument doesn't help you. Second is you failed to cite your sources. Last and more importantly out of those collisions how many were a result of downsizing too quickly? If your level of intellectual discourse is posting something then complaining about it you can have it. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

You have to look at more than just two years worth of data.... Care to tell the class how many collisions happened by year for the last 10 years? Or maybe just how many were 5 years ago? For example... Canopy collisions in the US in 2004: ZERO 2005: 2 fatalities 2006: One 2007: 4 fatalities 2008: 4 fatalities 2009: One 2010: 6 2011: 4 So there is a trend, from ZERO to 4 deaths. Even just using your selective year trick there was more in 2004 any year prior 2007. So, yes, there is a trend. That's nice. So what does that have to do with what I was saying? Also there was no selective year trick. You said to read what you posted so I did. If you don't like it then don't post it. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

No but you replied to david's post which did. With that, the 'official' oversight, and talking about laying down the law it sounded like you also meant government legislation which is the part I responded to. Meh, whatever. We at least agree on the original subject right? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

With or without the watch on? What are peoples experiences at airports outside the US? Going to Nicaragua in March and it sounds like leaving will be ok but wondering about returning. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

I don't understand. I am following the rules. I generally try to avoid dying period, not just at the dz. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

I took legislation to be of the government type, not a BSR from USPA. Am I wrong in that or is a BSR also called legislation? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

I re-read your post again. Funny thing is that going by your numbers canopy collisions are actually going down, from 6 in 2010 to 4 in 2011. I guess we have a couple months left so are you expecting a surge in collisions? So what's your issue? I was agreeing with you and then this last post you had was irrelevant, I had already brought collisions up. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

I guess that would be mostly correct. Less government is more. I understand there has to be laws and whatnot but with limits. I am all for safe and responsible skydiving and would love to get more into whatever I can do when I get back to the states. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

Read the previous two posts from where I started, that is where my response originated. One of which I believe was yours no? I believe you said 'official' oversight as well? That's fine by me as I have said before. I would technically fall in that category. I would not be affected though as I seem to be missing this needed desire to downsize. Again as I have said before I agree with the sizing and downsizing recommendations etc. I was not talking about your helping someone choose a canopy. It was about legislating a canopy and more importantly the reason behind doing so. It's not the oversight but your 'official' oversight i.e. government legislation that I have a problem with. Mmmmmmkay? Please see the post by david3 to which you responded. I was agreeing with his viewpoint. So I guess technically you are correct still. Yes I am bored at work or I wouldn't be posting things this long. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

I could agree with a better age being later into the 20's but since we've decided the basic age 18 that's what I'm using as when it changes. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

I believe the risk each poses to others is different there hence why I would decide differently on each. I may change my mind later but for now that is where I stand. I do realize that. My point is that if I die I don't care if you miss your next load or the DZO has to deal with the media. I'd be dead so how could I care? However if the DZO does not want to deal with it they could have their own rules as I believe many do. What I want is the DZ's to control themselves even if it is abiding by USPA as long as much as possible stays out of government hands. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

I'm not arguing about any rules. I was voicing my opinion on when to make rules into laws. Never said I disagree with any of the rules. If I stated that anywhere let me know. Maybe I wasn't clear in what I think. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

What are the federal laws governing those? I may disagree. You must have missed where I said the same thing, try re-reading. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.

There is now flaw there. We should be able to do as we like. However your overextending yourself since I never said nor implied that jumping with no training is their right. You're not paying attention to what I'm saying. When you jump you affect the pilot, other air traffic, and targets on the ground. This is no longer only affecting you. That's not trying to protect someone from themselves. If you were to argue that someone jumping too small of a canopy puts them at risk of landing on you or running into you in the air then I might give some weight to your argument. You're not going to convince me with arguments of hurting ones self though validating legislation. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rap is to music what etch-a-sketch is to art.