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And 5 people died. Are you entertained enough yet? You remember how the Romans persecuted early christians by feeding them to the lions in the arena for entertainment? 5 lives - this is how much your amusement cost.

Thing is, nobody needed the media to tell them he was an idiot. You could always have gone on to his Twitter feed and read stuff straight from the man himself, no middleman, no filters. Nobody to tell you what to think. I did regularly and it was easy to see how deranged he was. At least, not until he got himself kicked out for inciting an insurrection.

It's very important that the definitions remain vague, because he doesn't really want to do a specific comparison. billeisele just wants a reason to complain. As soon as you try to pin it down to something specific the goalposts will be moved.

FIFY

By the way, AON2 is actually developing an actual HUD.

“Remember, when you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It is only painful for others. The same applies when you are stupid.”

Well, I was not one of them. I hate lockdowns. I really do. But keep thinking that lefties love lockdowns, if it gives you that warm fuzzy feeling that you're better than them, I would say reality's a bit different but who am I to stop you massaging your own ego?

I'm not name calling, just stating a fact. If vaccine effectiveness was measured by how many people believed in the vaccine, then we shouldn't have bothered with the Phase 3 clinical trials right? Or closer to your analogy: the more people that are offended by the vaccine, the more effective it is. Which I hope you realise, is not a very good way to measure its effectiveness.

Only an idiot would measure the rightness of his opinion with the number of responses it generates.

It's self evident to you because it sings praises of conservatives and attacks liberals, but it doesn't have any citations or actual hard evidence. You must be desperately seeking validation, and that's okay. But until there's actual data and evidence to back it up, it's just shit you tell yourself.

Bonus points for guessing why.

Wow, don't dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back there. By the way, New Zealand is pretty leftist, and there aren't any lockdowns there right now.

I guess someone can argue that these people have "duty of care" towards their citizens & constituents, and forcing the nursing homes to accept covid patients was a breach of that responsibility. Now if the judge or jury accepts that, then it would remain to prove that they actually forced the nursing homes - so emails, threats of punishment/adverse consequences, witness testimony, documents etc would probably be the evidence. We had a similar situation here in the UK where the government did send covid patients back to nursing homes, causing carnage early last year. I'm not aware of any legal cases against them because of that however. I'm sure the relatives of those who died would be quite motivated to pursue justice, but I'm not a lawyer so I really don't know how these would stand up in court.

If you have evidence, then I suggest the following steps: show that evidence to a prosecutor if the evidence supports that a crime has been committed like criminal negligence, then file a case against them ideally this would have the support of the nursing homes that were allegedly forced to accept patients - if there's any evidence, they're the people who will probably have it anyway argue the case in court (optional) start a thread about it in SC - this is a completely different case to the Flint issue so it needs a different thread

If the money helps pay for medical expenses of those affected, then I don't see the problem with it.

I think it was airdvr who basically said the stuff Trump did was the Democrats' fault, because they did the unforgivable mistake of losing to him in 2016. brent's doing something similar now. The main argument is about spreading blame around, blurring lines of responsibility. Thing is, we're ALL connected, one way or another. Start blurring those lines and eventually it will reach you.

You should tell the prosecutor that. Nothing to see here, folks! Brenthutch has made his ruling, who needs a court case or evidence or any due process of any sort, right? Anyway, joking aside, I'm not a lawyer, and the evidence isn't public - they'll be made public in court proceedings later.

I think it's his inability to respond to the issues when they came up that's being contested here. Not inability to predict, but inability to respond. That's probably putting it lightly - the charge is officially "willful neglect". Willful - meaning intentional. Neglect - wait why am I still explaining this to you, how old are you again?

Did you not understand my point about separation of responsibility? I'm not sure I'm getting through. It's all a muddled mess in your head, but it's very convenient as it allows the mental gymnastics to avoid responsibility or smear it around.

And it's really your inability to separate the consequences of actions. In my example: 1) you don't maintain your car and it breaks down - yep it's broken, but it has residual value of say, $300 2) mechanic sets it on fire - you don't have a car any more. Residual value: $0 The mechanic is responsible for destruction of $300.

Nobody needs to take responsibility for anything then, blame it all on dead men.

The car breaking down initially would be your fault. But the mechanic putting the wrong oil in the rebuild engine would be entirely the mechanic's fault. The mental gymnastics you do is getting really predictable.

So if your car breaks down, then you call a mechanic to fix it, and while doing it he sets the car on fire, it's your fault?

Another Game of Thrones meme? Guiliani, is that you? But that's EXACTLY what you decided when you wanted the second impeachment to not happen. Plus plenty of people here and on the left condemned the violence in the summer. No, you're outnumbered by at least 8 million, and that was before your numbers shrank due to Trump's coup antics. Yeah as much as we moved on back in 2016 right? Not a single Trump supporter said "fuck your feelings" back then right? No. Reap what you sow.

That was before the head of the executive branch of government tried to set a mob on the legislative branch (and his vice president) because they wouldn't do his bidding.