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I've never seen someone with a Swift 3 have trouble getting into them either. I've flown my Swift 3 with a C Race and an Aura 3 before. It can be done under some circumstances. I have on the other hand flown with Funk 1s and I was shutting down my S3 big time. If I kept it in full flight I would smoke right past the Funk 1. All delta wing designs that I've ever flown with are very slow. Any T wing design can out fly them easily, even if the suit is smaller.

I find the stall speed to be quite low. The Swift 3, like all of Squirrel's products, likes to fly fast but it has massive range. You can shut it down big time if you need to. I've shut my suit down so much that I practically had my knees bent at upwards of 60 degrees and I was still flying the suit in formation.

Gus, Swift2/3, yes stall speed is high and you have to fly fast in these suits. They do not like to fly slow like not at all. Once that has been established as a fact, we just tell our students to get going flying fast (no head high). So thats our world now and well, it works fine.

My experience with people flying Swifts is they have a pretty high stall speed for a small suit (so fly it fast or else). I think intro suits from competitors are better. Also never seen anyone in a funk1 have trouble getting into flocks. Just sayin'...

I haven't jumped one but my advice on any upsize in suit is to treat it like your first wingsuit jump. Rehearse your recovery procedures, go up in good conditions (not lots of cloud) focus on a good exit, let the suit do its thing (but expect a bit more power and responsiveness) do some practise pulls in freefall, and pull high. You'll be right.

Indiantown had the finest grass runway I ever landed on!

See attached photos taken at Indiantown. First is of Bill Burr (in white) and myself. Second is Ed Dorey who died in a plane crash. There's also a shot of Pop's Howard. When is this site going to allow us to embed photos??? DZGone.com B-4600, C-3615, D-1814, Gold Wings #326, Diamond Wings #152. If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room!

Popp is still around and still jumping. I last saw John Coppe at the memorial event for Lowell Bachman a few years ago. HW

Hi slow, D-2 is Lou Sanborn. Lee West is/was indeed related to Xenia, OH; I 'think' she is Jim's wife. JerryBaumchen