normiss 644 #26 October 5, 2006 You guys have all made some excellent points...and therein lies the reason to share videos and experiences like this. We all learn from the event! Thanks guys! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #27 October 5, 2006 Yet another good reason to keep your knee and anklebones touching, not just for the pull, but throughout the entire deployment process. It is very difficult to unevenly load your risers, with your knees and ankles clamped; try doing a harness turn like this sometime. www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #28 October 5, 2006 QuoteLine twists happen and the first thing that comes to mind is to get untwisted, not chop it. That is the correct course of action and how it is taught in the FFC IF the canopy is not spinning or diving. That was not the case in this instance from the moment he pulled. At the end of the day Mark saved his ass and this discussion isn't to bust his balls but to learn from it. The video and Mark's experience serves as a very good teaching point not only for him but for everyone who flies a wingsuit. If it hasn't happened to you already, it eventually will if you fly a wingsuit for any amount of time.Better to learn the easy way than the hard way."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites notsane 0 #29 October 5, 2006 I watched the crap come off Mark's back with my own eyes and it was wrapping up at line stretch. We've all got to appreciate that going to your reserve has its own risks ... it's not 100%. Going from a mildly fucked up canopy back into freefall may not be the best option. In Mark's situation, unzipping and getting your hands on the risers looked pretty reasonable to me. A thousand feet lower and my opinion would certainly change. A slightly spun up, normally docile canopy is no reason for an immediate chop if you're high enough to think about it. Take it from the CRW guys, panic kills. Be altitude aware! IMHO Mark executed his EP's correctly ... not too late and not too soon. But like Scott C. said, the lower you pull the faster you're going to have to be on those EP's ... if you want to live that is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites brewman 0 #30 October 6, 2006 "first thing I do in any linetwist situation is level my links." Can you explain?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 3 #31 October 6, 2006 Even if your canopy is spun up, it will start flying straight and level if your connector links are on the same level, touching, over your head. It's that uneveness that causes a canopy to start diving spirals which, ultimately, lead to cutaways. My actions in the case of linetwists are to: let the canopy fully open, level the connector links with harness input, then start kicking out and unzipping as soon as the canopy is straight and level. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #32 October 6, 2006 Also worth noting is that if the twists are numerous enough, the lines will become locked and at that point you'll be unable to re-align your links. Which is why, as Chuck says, you want to align them as early as possible.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matt002 0 #33 June 5, 2013 The111 Yet another good reason to keep your knee and anklebones touching, not just for the pull, but throughout the entire deployment process. It is very difficult to unevenly load your risers, with your knees and ankles clamped; try doing a harness turn like this sometime. This works really well, I had a stock velo 96 that was a real handful during openings, this technique completely tamed the heading performance and I can't recall ever getting twists again afterwards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
The111 1 #27 October 5, 2006 Yet another good reason to keep your knee and anklebones touching, not just for the pull, but throughout the entire deployment process. It is very difficult to unevenly load your risers, with your knees and ankles clamped; try doing a harness turn like this sometime. www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #28 October 5, 2006 QuoteLine twists happen and the first thing that comes to mind is to get untwisted, not chop it. That is the correct course of action and how it is taught in the FFC IF the canopy is not spinning or diving. That was not the case in this instance from the moment he pulled. At the end of the day Mark saved his ass and this discussion isn't to bust his balls but to learn from it. The video and Mark's experience serves as a very good teaching point not only for him but for everyone who flies a wingsuit. If it hasn't happened to you already, it eventually will if you fly a wingsuit for any amount of time.Better to learn the easy way than the hard way."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsane 0 #29 October 5, 2006 I watched the crap come off Mark's back with my own eyes and it was wrapping up at line stretch. We've all got to appreciate that going to your reserve has its own risks ... it's not 100%. Going from a mildly fucked up canopy back into freefall may not be the best option. In Mark's situation, unzipping and getting your hands on the risers looked pretty reasonable to me. A thousand feet lower and my opinion would certainly change. A slightly spun up, normally docile canopy is no reason for an immediate chop if you're high enough to think about it. Take it from the CRW guys, panic kills. Be altitude aware! IMHO Mark executed his EP's correctly ... not too late and not too soon. But like Scott C. said, the lower you pull the faster you're going to have to be on those EP's ... if you want to live that is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brewman 0 #30 October 6, 2006 "first thing I do in any linetwist situation is level my links." Can you explain?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 3 #31 October 6, 2006 Even if your canopy is spun up, it will start flying straight and level if your connector links are on the same level, touching, over your head. It's that uneveness that causes a canopy to start diving spirals which, ultimately, lead to cutaways. My actions in the case of linetwists are to: let the canopy fully open, level the connector links with harness input, then start kicking out and unzipping as soon as the canopy is straight and level. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #32 October 6, 2006 Also worth noting is that if the twists are numerous enough, the lines will become locked and at that point you'll be unable to re-align your links. Which is why, as Chuck says, you want to align them as early as possible.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt002 0 #33 June 5, 2013 The111 Yet another good reason to keep your knee and anklebones touching, not just for the pull, but throughout the entire deployment process. It is very difficult to unevenly load your risers, with your knees and ankles clamped; try doing a harness turn like this sometime. This works really well, I had a stock velo 96 that was a real handful during openings, this technique completely tamed the heading performance and I can't recall ever getting twists again afterwards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
