tobi778 0 #1 October 7, 2003 A friend of mine wanted to order a new Vengeance the other day and was told by the dealer that they dont make them any more and that it will be replaced by the Katana. Has anyone else heared about this? I think its a shame, I have nothing bad to say about my Vengeance 120. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 October 7, 2003 That would be odd, since I've just finished up a demo from PD of a Vengence. Don't you think they would have told me that they weren't selling it anymore and wouldn't have sent the demo 3 weeks ago if that was the case?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #3 October 7, 2003 QuoteA friend of mine wanted to order a new Vengeance the other day and was told by the dealer that they dont make them any more and that it will be replaced by the Katana. Considering that the Katana is still in testing and hasn't even been released, I find that a little hard to believe. I'm sure Kolla or Fozchek will pop into this thread tomorrow with the real skinny.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tobi778 0 #4 October 7, 2003 Yeah, I think it's very odd. I think the dealer has misunderstood something. Thats why I asked you guys that are closer to the source . I think I will send an email to PD and ask... I'll post the reply here later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrisky 0 #5 October 7, 2003 Ahem, why didn't you just mail PD themselves? They'd know for sure...The mind is like a parachute - it only works once it's open. From the edge you just see more. ... Not every Swooper hooks & not every Hooker swoops ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #6 October 7, 2003 maybe he was referring to the fact that the katana will displace most/if not all of the vengeance's demand as they are similar niche products, but not exact, from what I gather. --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fozchek 0 #7 October 7, 2003 QuoteI'm sure Kolla or Fozchek will pop into this thread tomorrow with the real skinny. Right you are! The Vengeance Canopy fills a specific "niche" within the skydiving community. As such, it was never expected to be a tremendous seller. We will continue to produce the Vengeance through custom orders; we have just chosen to not carry it as a stock item due to the afore-mentioned reasons. As far as the Katana goes: that little beauty is a replacement for no canopy. The Katana is fresh and new, and "destined to slice up the competition," ensuring its own place within the market. For more Katana information keep an eye on our website! http://www.performancedesigns.com/katana/ Feel free to PM me with any further questions or concerns. Cheers! Gillian Parker C.S. Representative Performance Designs, Inc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #8 October 7, 2003 Quote"destined to slice up the competition," Geeze.... you sound like you work for PD....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #9 October 7, 2003 Quotethe katana will displace most/if not all of the vengeance's demand as they are similar niche products No they're not. The Vengeance is aimed at those who love airlocks and competes with other airlocked canopies like the Samurai. The Katana will be competing with other non-airlocked ellipticals. If your assumption were true then PD would have discontinued the Stiletto shortly after coming out with the Vengeance - they're both nine cell zp ellipticals right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tobi778 0 #10 October 8, 2003 Thanks for your reply, and thank you also Kolla for the email I got! So this dealer just seems to be misinformed. I was hoping this would be the case! Rock on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMFin 0 #11 October 8, 2003 This could have also something to do with PD having to pay money to Brian Germain about the airlocks.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fozchek 0 #12 October 8, 2003 QuoteThis could have also something to do with PD having to pay money to Brian Germain about the airlocks.. You are incorrect. Gillian Parker C.S. Representative Performance Designs, Inc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #13 October 8, 2003 Talk to Brian about the licencing. Its a very mutally agreeable situation. As a side note, PD is manufactoring a lot of the Big Air Canopies now days. What can be better... Brian designs them, PD builds them. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites