greybeard 0 #1 February 25, 2005 Here is a topic i would like to learn more about. I would hope this thread could, in an orderly and slow instuctional way, be a learning tool type thing. Duece,' the king of rodeo', your input in a slow, ( so I can think it thru), fashion would sure be welcome. Lets start with, what is a wingsuit rodeo?........ Dirtdive, exit,.....what else is there....what could possibly go wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #2 February 25, 2005 I think this has been discussed before... I am going to search and see what I can find..... add a link http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1154818#1154818Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greybeard 0 #3 February 25, 2005 Good link leroydb, thanks. I am looking for a lot more detail tho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #4 February 25, 2005 Not to knock anyones fun but..... My opinion is, Wingsuit Rodeo's are fun, right up until the rider puts there foot accidently through your leg wing or tears your suit fabric. This is when people start complaining to the manufacturer of some kinda bad workmanship or using faulty material. I have seen it happen twice. The added stress from the passengers extra weight isn't good for the suit either, but it's your suit, feel free to damage it as you please. Just don't whine if it get broken! Keeping it safe! Ed I have seen it a few timeswww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #5 February 25, 2005 It can spin up. You can hit your head on exit. It's great fun though! http://www.12000ft.com/video/12.html ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katiebear21 0 #6 February 25, 2005 That looked like a great exit! A little waffly at the bottom - but the flyer's arms were really tired with the passenger's weight! Katie Get your PMS glass necklace here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #7 March 2, 2005 The best rider I has was a very experienced horseback rider, Farrah Doolittle. She was very easy. I've also taken a couple of guys, the heaviest being deBar. You want the rider to have their hips right against the bottom of your container. The bigger the container, the more awkward, because then the rider is behind your center of gravity. On exit, have them hold your riser covers and already have their outboard leg wrapped tightly around your hip. On exit have them hold their body tightly against your container and wrap their other leg. Like I tell people I take on fast motorcycle rides, "align your spine with my spine at all times" Once flight is attained, then the rider can sit up. Again, if they keep centered it's not all that hard. If the suit is close to being flown maxed, you will be ferociously hauling ass. To get rid of the rider just have them sit up straight and they'll get stripped right off. Mark, sorry for the delayed answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greybeard 0 #8 March 2, 2005 Nice set up post. Thanks JP. I would like to have a resonable way to explain to.... and entice riders. Got any suggestions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katiebear21 0 #9 March 3, 2005 JP - you took a Dude on a rodeo??? Hmmmmm.... I'm gonna have to have that talk again with your better half huh?! Katie Get your PMS glass necklace here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #10 March 3, 2005 QuoteJP - you took a Dude on a rodeo??? Yes he did, I mean does.... And he said I was weird? Keepin' it safe! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #11 March 3, 2005 QuoteNice set up post. Thanks JP. I would like to have a resonable way to explain to.... and entice riders. Got any suggestions? Show them this picture: Looks like fun, huh? As to Katiebutt and the Birdmonster from Lodi: yeah, we were trying to do that deal where the rider surfs the birdman. It is WAY harder than it looks. The forward speed with the weight of a guy is super fast and they uniformly get peeled off. "Yeah I jumped. A little. At first." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greybeard 0 #12 March 3, 2005 Perfect photo, thanks. Looks like the upper body strain is pretty severe. Don't look now, but think your camera is mounted backwards. Can you see where you've been? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greybeard 0 #13 March 3, 2005 Does your exit senerio work equally well from a tailgate as from a side door? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greybeard 0 #14 March 4, 2005 As for flying dudes, the coolest dudes, comfortable with rodeo, must have an adoring female counterpart who wants to get closer to the after action action. Yeah, I can see the picture. I've seen JP in such social environs, the man has a plan, I'll bettcha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #15 March 4, 2005 I've never taken a rodeo out of a tailgate. Either the KingAir or an Otter. Once word gets out how much fun it is, you can dictate the attire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greybeard 0 #16 March 4, 2005 Here's another question. Told you I'd pester the hell out of you. Have you established a communication vehicle between rider and horse, ie, tugs or hand signles, to ready the partner for slow forward speed, thus being able to sit upright. Or, dump the rider in case of traffic issues, or anything else? How does your remote video guy tell what is going to happen next? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #17 March 4, 2005 The best way to make a flock happen is to get the best back tracker you got lead you with the rodeo person on your back. You will always be able to beat the best backtracker, so have them max, and just follow them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #18 March 4, 2005 QuoteDoes your exit senerio work equally well from a tailgate as from a side door? Tail gates work equaly well,especially if you want to do a few back loops on exit. Recommend you have the rider position in the door first and grab the overhead bar then have the Birdman back up to the rider so she/he can grab your riser cover. One leg up on the Birdmans thigh helps the transition during launch as well. As far as communication with the rider thats done on the ground beforehand. Usually a shake by the rider to the birdman lets him know the rider is ready for the count. During the flight the only communication thats going on is if the Birdman decides it's getting too hairy and the universal head signal for "NO" usually works for letting the rider know to get off. Break off altitude is coordinated on the ground and the rider can simply roll off to one of the sides. An experienced rider will have no trouble sitting up if they are positioned correctly on the Birdman."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vesatoro 0 #19 March 4, 2005 Quote An experienced rider will have no trouble sitting up if they are positioned correctly on the Birdman. Or doing a nice kneeling pose :) I have somewhere a vdo of Andy Ford doing a rodeo exit from Herc. I'll try to find and post it. "Fear is the path to the Dark side" (Master Yoda) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
