AggieDave 6 #1 February 26, 2002 What would be some good progression steps to start learning what I need to learn to try to get an AD#?"Wait...are you selling Penis Mighters?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #2 February 26, 2002 Just learn to do everything else first. It's going to take a while but you have to learn relativity (Both vertical and horizontal), speed control, turns, carving, driving (forward, back, side slide), perfect transitions and solid solid solid docking skills. That's not even a thought in my mind for at least another 100-200 jumps. I think I might have a chance at possesing those skills by then. When you think you can do it just find yourself a BM and get him to jump with you for practice. Easy as that.... As one of the guys said....it's only a matter of time and money...."I only have a C license, so I don't know shit..right?"-Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarcusV 0 #3 February 26, 2002 Quoteit's only a matter of time and money....You're so damn right... money makes the talent. 2 of my pals started the same time 4 years ago, one has around 700 jumps now, the other made his 2000th last year. No comment ;-)))Blues Marcus--Perfect speed, my son, is being there. - Jonathan Livingston Seagull Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jabeln79 0 #4 February 26, 2002 Whats an AD?Blue Skies Joe "When they say jump you say how high" RATM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #5 February 26, 2002 "Whats an AD?"Some bullshit a German guy thought up in Florida. It is a good test of skill though. You jump with a space ball and do a list of required manuevers. It's basically a Free Flying license. "I only have a C license, so I don't know shit..right?"-Clay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarcusV 0 #6 February 26, 2002 AD = Atmosphere Dolphin.See more. Scroll a bit down till "Atmosphere Dolphin Test".Blues Marcus--Perfect speed, my son, is being there. - Jonathan Livingston Seagull Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #7 February 26, 2002 QuoteSome bullshit a German guy thought up in Florida.LOL. Now that's the best description of it I've ever heard.But the real question is would DZs honor a AD A instead of a USPA A? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarcusV 0 #8 February 26, 2002 No. The real question is gives anybody shit that the word "freefly" is a trademark of some neurotic German guy?Blues Marcus ;-))--Perfect speed, my son, is being there. - Jonathan Livingston Seagull Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #9 February 26, 2002 He trademarked the term "freefly" for some good reasons. You shouldn't put a knife in the toaster - but you're an adult now !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msdeva 0 #10 February 27, 2002 QuoteBut the real question is would DZs honor a AD A instead of a USPA A?I don't think so - AD A only applies to aerial skills, not SIM knowledge, landing, gear awareness, etc.Of course, it can be argued that for someone to get to the point of an AD license they'd have to know that stuff - but it would have no legal standing.The best way to predict the future is to invent it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nws01 0 #11 February 27, 2002 I lived in South Florida for a year and I never went to Skydive America. I went up to Naples, Lake Wales and Z Hills because people I knew recommended it more than SA. However, I have seen a lot of videos from the dz and I will admit that they definetly are very good their discipline. I have been to 7 very good dz's and they are the best Freeflyers I have seen. Being a RW guy for "all of my 102 jumps" this is not saying much, however, Olav knows the "how to's". If you can follow a Space Ball straight down in either discipline and have taught others how to do it I would say you can teach and Skydiver.My thoughts,Nathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipper 0 #12 February 27, 2002 The AD challenge is there if you want it....its like the final test to show that you can control your body ...the ball dosnt cork/backslide or carve...Ive done some jumps with a member of the clowns ....it was a real laugh....with lots of stuff learned..i found the ball easier to work with than i imagined...to sum it all up its a good learning tool....flipper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyGoat 0 #13 February 27, 2002 Ok, Here are some things you can start working on that will help with your AD. I used these in preperation for my test. First, use a partner who is rock solid and can fly a straight column of air all the way down on his/her head. Use them as the base. Or you can do these on your own and practice them on solos before you try them with somebody else. Just stick your arm out there like you are going to dock and you will feel the reaction.1.Fly relative on head level with your partner. There must be no carving or heading changes. You should be able to do this all the way until breakoff.2.Dock with your partner. You should fly this hand dock for a least 5+ seconds. Once you learn to fly the dock learn to bring the other hand in for a a double hand dock(this is tricky.)3. Do 360 turns, cartwheels, front/backflips relative to your partner. you should be able to do each of these manouvers.These are the basic skills for the test.Goat aka Dereck aka SuperFreakAD A#292 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyGoat 0 #14 February 27, 2002 Money DOES NOT make the talent. I know 2 more people in the exact same situation. 4 years in the sport, one has 700+ the other has 2000+. The one with 700+ jumps stayed at the same progression rate as the one with 2000 jumps in the same time period. Progression lies with the individual and his talents not soley on the # of jumps or money for coaching. I've seen people dump money into coaching in all disciplines and they still suck.Goat aka Dereck aka SuperFreakAD A#292 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarcusV 0 #15 February 27, 2002 Goat,you are so right, but you got me totally wrong. What I meant is - imagine, the one with 700 jumps would have had the money to do 2000 jumps also in the same time. Now imagine with her/his talent bringing it into much more jumps - what jumper would s/he be now?Hope I'm not misunderstood now ;-)Blues Marcus--Perfect speed, my son, is being there. - Jonathan Livingston Seagull Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites