dragonauti 0 #1 July 16, 2003 I'm looking for a new rig and I like the mirage rig. And I am a Freeflyer. My question is now, which rig should I either buy if I go for a new one, the G3 or the new G4? I haven't seen yet the G4 live. Some voices I heard they are saying, it is quite ugly or not as nice as the G3 from look and shape. Well, I can read the technical differences on the official Mirage Page but what makes the difference realy? Is the new G4 realy better or what? Thanx a lot for any information!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #2 July 16, 2003 Is the G4 really that much better? I don't think so. It is ugly as sin, though...so I guess that's a bonus. The G3 is still one kick-ass rig, very FF friendly.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AntiPinkChrissy 0 #3 July 16, 2003 I have a G4 and absolutley love it. I haven't jumped a G3 so I can't give you an opinion about that. But I think the G4 is sleeker than the G3, it doesn't have all of the bulk in the main tray like the G3 does. it is more spread out. It is sooo comfortable, I recently did a hop and pop for 14k and was so comfortable in the harness, felt bad for the other people on the dive who didn't have rigs that were quite so comfortable because they were complaining the rest of the night. ~La La Gang Member #2~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingfrog 0 #4 July 16, 2003 all I can say is.... I own a G3 and it is one of the best rigs I ever had... I really like it, and never had any issues with. And think about the price different.. that's quite a lot of jumps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites towerrat 0 #5 July 16, 2003 I have jumped both rigs ( demo before buying my Wings ). I found the g-3 to be a pretty nice rig but not worth the insane amount of money they wanted at the time. With the introduction of the g-4 the price of the g-3 came down somewhat but there are still other rigs that offer more fore less. I found the g-4 to be extremely uncomfortable,but keep in mind it was not a custom rig. I also found it to be a real pain in the ass to pack and close.The one I jumped hac a split bag which made it extremely hard to put the canopy in. ---------------------------------------------------------Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites grega 0 #6 July 17, 2003 QuoteI found the g-4 to be extremely uncomfortable,but keep in mind it was not a custom rig. I also found it to be a real pain in the ass to pack and close.The one I jumped hac a split bag which made it extremely hard to put the canopy in. Huh, you didn't accidently switch mirage g4 with some student rig did you? Well i have mirage G4, and tried G3 too. they are both almost equally comfortable once under canopy. The only difference in comfort is when you are waiting for your load with your rig on your back, where g4 is a little more comfortable, because of cut in elastic strap and very soft back side of the rig. the other difference is the looks, that some find very nice (like me), others ugly as hell. but that are all personal opinions. another thing is that split bag doesn't make canopy extremly hard to put in the bag. it makes the canopy extremely easy to put in the bag. ask any experienced rigger or packer which is easier to pack split or unsplit bag... and the D-bag at g4 has 3 closing grommets and is differently shaped bag than g3. That are all differences that you'll notice at first sight, i think."George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #7 July 17, 2003 I've seen the G4 live and it's UGLY! If I won the lottery - I'd order a new G3! tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AntiPinkChrissy 0 #8 July 17, 2003 well, here is my teammates G4, which I don't find ugly at all, maybe you saw a bad pack job. My rig looks exactly like it, I just don't have pictures of it. ~La La Gang Member #2~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NeedToJump 0 #9 July 17, 2003 I made this same decision last weekend when ordering my second rig. Basically the G4 is cut a little cleaner, has less yoke (so you can lean your head back further) and comes with a few of the G3 options as standard features. You also end up spending $300 more. Basically you're baying $300 for the cleaner cut, it's up to you if you think it's worth it. I ended up order a new G3 - 4 weeks baby!Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Perky77 0 #10 July 18, 2003 I LOVE my G3!!!! what I considered when I bought mine was for what I felt I would be getting in addition by buying a G4 was not worth the extra cost. "Sacrifice is a part of life. It is supposed to be. It's not something you regret . It's something to aspire to." Mitch Albom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dragonauti 0 #11 July 18, 2003 Thanx Guys for telling me your thoughts and experiences with this. It gave me now more or less a better picture of it. CU in the Sky!!! Rogi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BMFin 0 #12 July 19, 2003 Sure a lot of people are trying to convince you that the G3 is better if they didnt have enough money to order the G4. I like my G4 a lot. Before I ordered my G4 , everyone in Finland said to me its crap. Even the riggers in my DZ. (all though, not many had ever saw them and most of them had G3 them self...) Anyway I ordered G4 and when I took it to the DZ, no rigger had nothing bad to say about it. (at least they didnt tell it to me) They only had comments like : Oh.. look at this neat little detail, THIS IS CLEVER.... About packing the G4: I think its very easy. IMHO thats nothing to worry about !! Very Easy to pack !! The split bag works just great !! Otherwise its pretty much like packing the G3.. About the looks : I have only seen 2 G4´s in real life and they both are just too fucking nice ! Heres mine: (the pics are a bit bad, but you get the idea...) PIC 1 PIC 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CloudOnMyTongue 0 #13 July 19, 2003 Not that I have anything useful to say other than. That rig is beautiful....maybe one day I'll have the money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dragonauti 0 #14 July 21, 2003 That is realy a very nice rig. It looks awesome! Thanx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BMFin 0 #15 July 21, 2003 Thanks.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #16 July 21, 2003 Well beauty is in the eye.... And I think it's ugly. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vertifly 0 #17 July 23, 2003 I have a G3 and would argue that a G4 is just not worth the extra $$$. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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AggieDave 6 #2 July 16, 2003 Is the G4 really that much better? I don't think so. It is ugly as sin, though...so I guess that's a bonus. The G3 is still one kick-ass rig, very FF friendly.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntiPinkChrissy 0 #3 July 16, 2003 I have a G4 and absolutley love it. I haven't jumped a G3 so I can't give you an opinion about that. But I think the G4 is sleeker than the G3, it doesn't have all of the bulk in the main tray like the G3 does. it is more spread out. It is sooo comfortable, I recently did a hop and pop for 14k and was so comfortable in the harness, felt bad for the other people on the dive who didn't have rigs that were quite so comfortable because they were complaining the rest of the night. ~La La Gang Member #2~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingfrog 0 #4 July 16, 2003 all I can say is.... I own a G3 and it is one of the best rigs I ever had... I really like it, and never had any issues with. And think about the price different.. that's quite a lot of jumps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #5 July 16, 2003 I have jumped both rigs ( demo before buying my Wings ). I found the g-3 to be a pretty nice rig but not worth the insane amount of money they wanted at the time. With the introduction of the g-4 the price of the g-3 came down somewhat but there are still other rigs that offer more fore less. I found the g-4 to be extremely uncomfortable,but keep in mind it was not a custom rig. I also found it to be a real pain in the ass to pack and close.The one I jumped hac a split bag which made it extremely hard to put the canopy in. ---------------------------------------------------------Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #6 July 17, 2003 QuoteI found the g-4 to be extremely uncomfortable,but keep in mind it was not a custom rig. I also found it to be a real pain in the ass to pack and close.The one I jumped hac a split bag which made it extremely hard to put the canopy in. Huh, you didn't accidently switch mirage g4 with some student rig did you? Well i have mirage G4, and tried G3 too. they are both almost equally comfortable once under canopy. The only difference in comfort is when you are waiting for your load with your rig on your back, where g4 is a little more comfortable, because of cut in elastic strap and very soft back side of the rig. the other difference is the looks, that some find very nice (like me), others ugly as hell. but that are all personal opinions. another thing is that split bag doesn't make canopy extremly hard to put in the bag. it makes the canopy extremely easy to put in the bag. ask any experienced rigger or packer which is easier to pack split or unsplit bag... and the D-bag at g4 has 3 closing grommets and is differently shaped bag than g3. That are all differences that you'll notice at first sight, i think."George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #7 July 17, 2003 I've seen the G4 live and it's UGLY! If I won the lottery - I'd order a new G3! tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntiPinkChrissy 0 #8 July 17, 2003 well, here is my teammates G4, which I don't find ugly at all, maybe you saw a bad pack job. My rig looks exactly like it, I just don't have pictures of it. ~La La Gang Member #2~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #9 July 17, 2003 I made this same decision last weekend when ordering my second rig. Basically the G4 is cut a little cleaner, has less yoke (so you can lean your head back further) and comes with a few of the G3 options as standard features. You also end up spending $300 more. Basically you're baying $300 for the cleaner cut, it's up to you if you think it's worth it. I ended up order a new G3 - 4 weeks baby!Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perky77 0 #10 July 18, 2003 I LOVE my G3!!!! what I considered when I bought mine was for what I felt I would be getting in addition by buying a G4 was not worth the extra cost. "Sacrifice is a part of life. It is supposed to be. It's not something you regret . It's something to aspire to." Mitch Albom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonauti 0 #11 July 18, 2003 Thanx Guys for telling me your thoughts and experiences with this. It gave me now more or less a better picture of it. CU in the Sky!!! Rogi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMFin 0 #12 July 19, 2003 Sure a lot of people are trying to convince you that the G3 is better if they didnt have enough money to order the G4. I like my G4 a lot. Before I ordered my G4 , everyone in Finland said to me its crap. Even the riggers in my DZ. (all though, not many had ever saw them and most of them had G3 them self...) Anyway I ordered G4 and when I took it to the DZ, no rigger had nothing bad to say about it. (at least they didnt tell it to me) They only had comments like : Oh.. look at this neat little detail, THIS IS CLEVER.... About packing the G4: I think its very easy. IMHO thats nothing to worry about !! Very Easy to pack !! The split bag works just great !! Otherwise its pretty much like packing the G3.. About the looks : I have only seen 2 G4´s in real life and they both are just too fucking nice ! Heres mine: (the pics are a bit bad, but you get the idea...) PIC 1 PIC 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudOnMyTongue 0 #13 July 19, 2003 Not that I have anything useful to say other than. That rig is beautiful....maybe one day I'll have the money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonauti 0 #14 July 21, 2003 That is realy a very nice rig. It looks awesome! Thanx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #16 July 21, 2003 Well beauty is in the eye.... And I think it's ugly. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertifly 0 #17 July 23, 2003 I have a G3 and would argue that a G4 is just not worth the extra $$$. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
