billvon 2,476 #26 April 15, 2003 Here's what I'd like to see: -lower power uP (longer battery life, smaller batteries) -stronger case -smaller size -anti dual deployment function (accelerometer, loop tension or light based) (someone said) >a means of inspecting serviceability by Riggers at repack other than >a "functional check" by turning it on and watching it count down. Not sure what else you could do. A rigger can do a functional check with a chamber and a dummy (or sacrificial) cutter right now. Without a chamber you can test everything but the altitude sensor and firing circuit; that's what the BIT does now. (someone else said) >It shouldn't be too difficult to get it asssessed by an independent >consultant and assigned a reliability figure. I would think such a thing is much better done by airtec themselves. It's not in a 'normal' environment; it's not like a toaster or a car airbag sensor. It goes through massive temperature cycling, abuse from riggers, gets squeezed a lot etx. About the only company around with actual reliability data to plug into a reliability equation is airtec. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 563 #27 April 15, 2003 How does a pompous master rigger get certified by MPAAD to sew their AADs into existing rigs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sducoach 0 #28 April 18, 2003 Rob, Would that have to come from the manufacturer of the rig? A SR to a MR help me out here. J.E.James 4:8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 563 #29 April 18, 2003 Approval to install any AAD in any rig must come from the rig manufacturer and probably from the AAD manufacturer as well. H/C and AAD manufacturers usually work closely together on the first retrofit to work out any bugs and simplify the installation process. Once they are satisfied with the process, they publish procedures and start training field riggers. They closely monitor the first few retrofits to de-bug their process. For example, when I worked at Rigging Innovations during the mid-1990s - shortly after Cypres were introduced. Both Rigging Innovations and Airtec published instructions on how to retrofit a Cypres to a Talon. Any Master Rigger who wanted to do the retrofit outside the factory had to pass Airtec's home study course. Airtec mailed out thousands of Cypres retrofit kits and I spend countless hours on the telephone explaining to field riggers what was already written in R.I.'s Product Modification Procedure and Airtec's Cypres Installation Manual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpy 0 #30 April 27, 2003 Is there any specific reason why they MPAAD has the closing loop going directly through the unit? Any reason why this is better or worse? Seems like its just differnt for the sake of being 'NEW AND DIFFERENT' to the cypress. Possibly the easyest way to capture a market rather then making a clone of the cypress.... The cypress can prettymuch be put into any type of rig on the market as they cutters and small and can be moved anywhere. The fact that the unit is the cutter to me seems like it may limit itself from being put into some rigs.. ie.. it may not work well in a racer.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #31 April 27, 2003 Seems to me having it go right through the center is a better system than the cypres. which has the cutter, the control unit, and the processor/batteries as three seperate units. just makes sense to consolidate rather than have it all over the place. simple is good. Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlindBrick 0 #32 April 27, 2003 QuoteIs there any specific reason why they MPAAD has the closing loop going directly through the unit? Any reason why this is better or worse? If you read the Cypres owner's manual. they flat out tell you that they sacrificed durability of the wiring to reduce weight and bulk. With everything being in one unit, the MPAAD very likely doesn't have the vulnerability to wiring damage that the Cypress does. I for one will welocme that. The wiring has always made me nervous when having to install or service a Cypres. -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sducoach 0 #33 April 27, 2003 That was my understanding. In fact there was quite a controversy concerning SR Riggers even installing the units (any aad within the reserve tray) on rigs that were factory ready back then. I was just curious why the AAD manufacturer was certifying a rigger and not working with the manufacturer of the containers. Thanks and Blues, J.E.James 4:8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 563 #34 April 27, 2003 QuoteQuoteIs there any specific reason why they MPAAD has the closing loop going directly through the unit? Any reason why this is better or worse? Makes sense to me. Cables have always been vulnerable on Cypri. One of the reason we welcomed the ASTRA was because its cables are so much tougher than Cypres cables. As for difficulty in installing an MPAAD in a Racer,... didn't you hear? Cypres killed off most of the two-pin containers. It is difficult to GIVE away Racers in British Columbia! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NightJumper 0 #35 April 28, 2003 Quote It is difficult to GIVE away Racers in British Columbia! Please feel free to send all the FREE Racers you want to me.FYI: MPAAD is making a two pin version. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fudd 0 #36 April 28, 2003 Quote Cypres killed off most of the two-pin containers. It is difficult to GIVE away Racers in British Columbia! But cypres has a two pin version. Infact it's only to change the cutter... Am I missing the point here?????? There are only 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 94 #37 April 28, 2003 I believe that for a while there was only the one pin version.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
NightJumper 0 #35 April 28, 2003 Quote It is difficult to GIVE away Racers in British Columbia! Please feel free to send all the FREE Racers you want to me.FYI: MPAAD is making a two pin version. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fudd 0 #36 April 28, 2003 Quote Cypres killed off most of the two-pin containers. It is difficult to GIVE away Racers in British Columbia! But cypres has a two pin version. Infact it's only to change the cutter... Am I missing the point here?????? There are only 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 94 #37 April 28, 2003 I believe that for a while there was only the one pin version.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
