JayCam 0 #1 June 11, 2005 Has anyone got any idea how much the new UK tunnel is going to cost when its open? I am pretty broke so this would be an excelent way of getting a step ahead with regards to freefall as I am now working up to 10 second delays and I am running out of cash lol J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #2 June 11, 2005 BUY NOW!!!! http://www.skyventure.co.uk/skyventure.html?/gift_certificate.html Pink Suits, Blue Skies & Fast Air, Dawn Suiter PMTS #3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #3 June 14, 2005 £50 for 2 mins of flight time?! I know it's a minimum, but Bodyflight are doing a £60 for 10 min flight offer i believe (and no i don't work for them, i just heard about it when they turned up at the dz) "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #4 June 14, 2005 Different companies, different expenses, different tunnels, different fans, different air flow, different staff training (possibly), you get the idea. There are so many factors that can go into determining price. Bedford upgraded, they did not build from scratch. That is also one of the reason they will most likely be a successful, operational 16 ft. tunnel. Operating costs for that monster are going to be a biotch, for any 16 ft. tunnel for that matter. Operating costs for such a venture would be outrageous with start up costs and maintaince for a new tunnel. Thus making a 16 ft. SV or any other tunnel for that matter, is a very expensive and maybe not so great of an investment. Again, I know nothing. Take this for what it is worth, my opinion and take on the business side of things.Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #5 June 14, 2005 Quotemaking a 16 ft. SV or any other tunnel for that matter, is a very expensive and maybe not so great of an investment. amen to that sista'!!! not that I wouldn't like to have our own 16 footer to play with.. the operating costs.. well, I just can't get my head around them! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #6 June 14, 2005 I remember you and John saying that about the costs of a 16fter. It really stood out as an obvious downfall to the increase in size but I never imagined it would be so much that it would not make it a wise venture at all. It totally makes sense when you think about it though. I wish anyone all the best if they take on that venture. I'll surely be there to fly it Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulipod 0 #7 June 14, 2005 Quotethe operating costs.. well, I just can't get my head around them! Well, all I will say on the matter is that the operating costs sure do increase! We are quite lucky with our location - and power supply... I doubt many places could easily be fed with the size and cost of supply needed. Our chiller system alone consumes as much power as a standard tunnel would (give or take a bit) I have said before - I doubt we would have built this big if we had to start from scratch... but as Paige observed no build costs makes it possible. Ohh - and our trial offer is damn good value Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #8 June 14, 2005 Quoteour trial offer is damn good value sounds like it.. I didn't bother to look up the Euro conversion.. I have a day trader client he said the EURO is going down and the minister of finances or whatever is gonna be taxing non residents or something like that.. so anyway.. I always wonder how that conversion thing works.. but sounds like it's changing.. anyway.. yes trial offers are great! I just got the owner at AAC to give away 30 minutes of air time for a fundraiser nearby and I'm working with him on an invitation only free freefly event.. a couple of weekends where it's totally free by invitation only. The first X number of people to respond and confirm get their time totally free.. two full 8 hour days of it! think that might gain a little interest?? and have you considered doing anything like that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulipod 0 #9 June 14, 2005 Quoteand have you considered doing anything like that? For fear of invoking a swarm of ... me me me's..... yes we have - and its likely to be the format of our invitation launch party. We aim to open with a bit of a celebration and a day at least of flying / socialising and general get the place off to the right start fun. Not sure exactly how many invites will go out yet (havent got the safety numbers from the fire officer yet!) but should be good I hope Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #10 June 14, 2005 Quoteanyway.. yes trial offers are great! I just got the owner at AAC to give away 30 minutes of air time for a fundraiser nearby and I'm working with him on an invitation only free freefly event.. Keep me posted, I'm sure the rats down here would love to get in on that event even if they have to pay for their time. If it ever gets past just an invite only, I know there would be much interest from some SVO employess. Phil is sooooooooooo excited to get out there and fly it. I could see him twitching as he was talking about it I'll keep you posted on my event to let you know what worked and what didn't (not that you haven't done this a ton already I'd guess). I'm sure they are going to be totally different events but sharing info that worked and didn't, never hurts. There might be some surprise that came up for me that also might for you. For big events regardless of subject, the more you know the more you can prepare for/brace for the worst, imo.Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #11 June 14, 2005 Right on!!! and yes, I'm sure there will be a swarm.. I'm thinking for us.. we'd give each person about 30 minutes.. and the list would be generated by recommendation and previous world record attempts, etc.. The owner is considering an invitation competition with judges and a few thousand dollar prize.. but I'm pushing for the free freefly event instead... and it should cost about the same but allow more folks to enjoy it.. more like everyone's a winner! Good to see you wanna share the love! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayCam 0 #12 June 16, 2005 How many tunnels are there in the UK and where? I thought the milton keynes one was going to be the first... J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulipod 0 #13 June 16, 2005 Currently there are none. Shortly there will be one... (we plan to open to the public in August with test and preview flights in July) - our motor arrived yesterday! - yippee.. Then there will be two Bodyflight Bedford www.bodyflight.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin 0 #14 June 29, 2005 QuoteBUY NOW!!!! http://www.skyventure.co.uk/skyventure.html?/gift_certificate.html Pink Suits, Blue Skies & Fast Air, Dawn Suiter PMTS #3 At £50 for 2 min you have to be kidding!!! I will rather carry on going to aerokart or Perris in the USA where you have insturctors that have in excess of 10k jumps or alternatively locally bodyflight. Aerokart costs €50 for 2.30sec. How stupid can you be to price yourself right out of the market before you even open? Skyventure Perris is £67 for 10 min Aerokart £140 for 10 min Skyventure UK £500 for 10 min Body flight £60 for 10 min Guess where I will be going. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #15 June 29, 2005 I'm sure someone there (SVUK) will read this and respond to you.. we certainly don't charge that much for airtime & coaching. I had no idea you could get time at SkyVenture Perris so cheaply.. according to my exchange program that's just under $9 per minute! Appalachian Amusement Center Falls in between with 82£ for 10 minutes ($10 per minute) (1 EUR = 1.20802 USD) Pink Suits, Blue Skies & Fast Air, Dawn Suiter PMTS Delegate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin 0 #16 June 29, 2005 Skyventure Perris was $130 for 10min when I was there, they dropped it to $110 and even lower for group bookings. I still do not understand how the SVUK can put a rediculous price of 2 min @ £50 I would rather skydive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #17 June 29, 2005 QuoteAt £50 for 2 min you have to be kidding!!! ehhh.. Gavin? Did you read the website carefully? It says: QuotePrice is £50 It will give you a full one hour experience and an absolute minimum of two flights in that hour Last time I checked, most of the flights are 2 minutes each at other SV tunnels, right?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin 0 #18 June 29, 2005 Rimster, it clearly states on the site: Each flight is one minute in length. And to make it easier for you here is the link: http://www.skyventure.co.uk/skyventure.html?/gift_certificate.html I quote directly from the site: It will give you a full one hour experience and an absolute minimum of two flights in that hour That equates to 2 flights in one hour one minute each. Its not hard to do the maths here. OH - I almost forgot to add, you get a free hat or T-shirt. The standard block time in a tunnel is 2min 30sec Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodyflight.Net 0 #19 June 29, 2005 WHEW! Good to know, I was hoping our air time wasn't more than SVP! Anyway.. must be an exchange rate thing why it came out like that for me. Thanks for clarifying, and yes.. that's a pricey flight.. I guess they are hoping their branding will work for them in that respect, but as you have pointed out.. maybe not. The competition is heating up out there.. Pink Suits, Blue Skies & Fast Air, Dawn Suiter PMTS Delegate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleBadger 0 #20 June 29, 2005 Just for the sake of it, I got this in an email from Simon Ward when I asked about this point: QuoteFlights are of 1 minute duration each and everything that goes with welcoming newcomers to the sport. We will be giving at least 4 mins on the Early Bird voucher. One voucher per person. On the bodyflight cost for 10 minutes, that's an opening special offer for BPA members. After that 10minutes the price is somewhat more. Also it was mentioned that the vouchers were only going to be sold for a few weeks more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin 0 #21 June 29, 2005 QuoteJust for the sake of it, I got this in an email from Simon Ward when I asked about this point: What you say is purely second hand hearsay and speculation, Mr Simon Ward should adjust his site in line with what you say if this is true. Bodyflight has it in black & white, until then Skyventure UK is priced at what the site reflects. I think Skyventure UK are watching the market from behind and observing the steps of innovators and leaders such as Bodyflight. Go Bodyflight !! Take the market !! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 0 #22 June 30, 2005 QuoteWhat you say is purely second hand hearsay and speculation How is quoting an email from the company hearsay? Or speculation? Hearsay: "My mate told me that Simon Ward said..." Speculation: "I think..." This isn't either of those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gavin 0 #23 June 30, 2005 I dont know why I bother to do this but here is the lookup of hearsay and spefically for you incase you cannot find the meanings its in bold: hearsay n. 1) second-hand evidence in which the witness is not telling what he/she knows personally, but what others have said to him/her. 2) a common objection made by the opposing lawyer to testimony when it appears the witness has violated the hearsay rule. 3) scuttlebutt or gossip. Noun: speculation `spekyu'leyshun A message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence - guess, conjecture, supposition, surmise, surmisal, hypothesis Anybody can type anything and stick it on this forum. As I said in my last email and I say it again: This information needs to come from www.skyventure.co.uk for it to be real. Until then it is HEARSAY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites saucy_dee 0 #24 June 30, 2005 In PurpleBadger's defence Simon Ward is the Chairman at SVUK. And to make it easier for you here is the link: http://www.skyventure.co.uk/skyventure.html?/who_we_are.html I also got a mail from him after I told him I thought the website was a little misleading. Seems I wasn't the only one who thought this. Don't put off 'till tomorrow what you can do today Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PurpleBadger 0 #25 June 30, 2005 I think I was about to suggest that this thread got transfered to the mystery zone of Speakers Corner Simon Ward is one of the big guys with SVUK so I figured that he'd be giving out accurate information. Also since this email was reference a marketing question and nothing within was at all personal in nature, I figured he would not mind me mentioning on here in order to clarify speculation refering to his bussiness. This is the reason why I did not put the price for 10 minutes in the bedford tunnel in, is because even though I found out when speaking to Paul Mayer (DZ.com: paulipod) the weekend before last I cannot definitivly remember the price mention therefore instead of putting down what I THOUGHT it was I left that out for someone who did know to put in i.e. paul when he's on here next. edited to add: why make up something in Simon Wards name when it can very easily be traced back to me by him when someone mentions it to him? It's not as though UK skydiving is particularily large and I wouldn't like to be annoying people like Simon Ward to much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
bob.dino 0 #22 June 30, 2005 QuoteWhat you say is purely second hand hearsay and speculation How is quoting an email from the company hearsay? Or speculation? Hearsay: "My mate told me that Simon Ward said..." Speculation: "I think..." This isn't either of those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavin 0 #23 June 30, 2005 I dont know why I bother to do this but here is the lookup of hearsay and spefically for you incase you cannot find the meanings its in bold: hearsay n. 1) second-hand evidence in which the witness is not telling what he/she knows personally, but what others have said to him/her. 2) a common objection made by the opposing lawyer to testimony when it appears the witness has violated the hearsay rule. 3) scuttlebutt or gossip. Noun: speculation `spekyu'leyshun A message expressing an opinion based on incomplete evidence - guess, conjecture, supposition, surmise, surmisal, hypothesis Anybody can type anything and stick it on this forum. As I said in my last email and I say it again: This information needs to come from www.skyventure.co.uk for it to be real. Until then it is HEARSAY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saucy_dee 0 #24 June 30, 2005 In PurpleBadger's defence Simon Ward is the Chairman at SVUK. And to make it easier for you here is the link: http://www.skyventure.co.uk/skyventure.html?/who_we_are.html I also got a mail from him after I told him I thought the website was a little misleading. Seems I wasn't the only one who thought this. Don't put off 'till tomorrow what you can do today Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleBadger 0 #25 June 30, 2005 I think I was about to suggest that this thread got transfered to the mystery zone of Speakers Corner Simon Ward is one of the big guys with SVUK so I figured that he'd be giving out accurate information. Also since this email was reference a marketing question and nothing within was at all personal in nature, I figured he would not mind me mentioning on here in order to clarify speculation refering to his bussiness. This is the reason why I did not put the price for 10 minutes in the bedford tunnel in, is because even though I found out when speaking to Paul Mayer (DZ.com: paulipod) the weekend before last I cannot definitivly remember the price mention therefore instead of putting down what I THOUGHT it was I left that out for someone who did know to put in i.e. paul when he's on here next. edited to add: why make up something in Simon Wards name when it can very easily be traced back to me by him when someone mentions it to him? It's not as though UK skydiving is particularily large and I wouldn't like to be annoying people like Simon Ward to much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
