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Well, at least you linked to Steve Earle. In my opinion, a very vastly underrated songwriter. (And Cheryl ain't half bad to look at either!).
"They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider

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Marine Corps vet Zach Stiles wants to shoot an independent DB Cooper film. Whatever he has has in mind has to be better than the recent gay-exploitation movie 'Bigfoot VS D.B. Cooper'. I thought that one was going to be okay and turned out NOT.

I contacted Zach and offered him the report on Kenny Christiansen and an official endorsement. Hoo Rah.
I would trust an ex-jarhead a lot quicker than some folks who have occasionally posted here on the Cooper thread. I suppose I will have to discuss some things with him first before actually giving him the report. But I had to give it to him for guts. And he's from San Francisco, the same place where I spent my very early years. :)
EDIT: Just kidding. This is supposed to be a serious investigation. Much as I am tempted to provide Zach with the report prior to the Seattle FBI, this is realistically not possible. But I would like to hear about his film though. :)


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Heard the Chambers Brothers perform "Time Has Come Today" live at the Fillmore in SF back in the day ('69).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsBwBct0_5U

If anyone truly wants "more cowbell" they will like this song a lot.

I don't see it as Jo's theme song though. Her mind has not been "psychedelicized". Not yet at least.

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I heard The Chambers Brothers perform Time Has Come Today live at the Spectrum in Philly. '69 or so, too. I snuck in by going to the Will Call window and reading a name upside down from the stack of on-callers.... Janis was also performing. Very cool.

I later saw Jim Morrison and the Doors at the New York World's Fair grounds, now known as Louis Armstrong Arena and Tennis etc. Jumped over a cyclone fence. Ya can't do that shit anymore....

As for more cowbell, I love Christopher Walken, too. In fact, Stand Up Guys is one of my favorite movies.

"It's time to kick ass or chew gum, and I'm all out of gum," sayeth CW.

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"...Nick O'Hara was asked about the validity of what I say. As I read his response it was basically that HE could keep a secret and I should also. So I'm the bad guy who is 100% nuts, who dreams up this crap and the guy who everyone wants to discredit...."



When I asked Nick about you and your hypothesis that Richard McCoy was not shot and killed in Virginia Beach but rather shipped out to covert ops, Nick replied that his "integrity had never been questioned before."

I then told him I wasn't questioning his integrity but only asking about a rumor that persists in Cooper World. Nick then informed me that out conversation was over.

I told him that I respect his right to be silent but that is how he goes in the book, as clamming up. Nick then hung up on me and has never repsonded to any of my emails or phone calls since.

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ONLY WAY I CAN TYPE NOW. SHORT ANNOUNCEMENT! BIG NEWS FORTH COMING IN LATE NOV!:)

WILL TRY TO DO UPDATES, BUT LIMITED ON KEY BOARD TIME DUE TO MY HAND.

HOLD ONTO YOUR HATS AND /OR BRITCHES ORWHATEVER!

SOME OF U R IN FOR A BIG SHOCK!

GEORGER NEEDS TO GET HIS ACT TOGETHER - HE IS GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF EXPLAINING TO DO!

SOME OF U SUSPECTED THIS WAS COMING & SOME THOUGHT IT WOULD ALL GO AWAY!

IT DIDN'T GO AWAY & THE ENDING TO THE COOPER STORY IS COMING SOON.

SOME IN WITHIN THE POLITICAL SCENE WILL TRY TO STOP THIS - BUT THEY CAN'T! NOW IS THE TIME TO REVEAL WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON NOV 24, 1971.

THE TRUTHS WERE BURIED FROM 1962 UNTIL RECENTLY...THOSE STILL LIVING WHO WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

ALL I CAN SAY!




Yes, Jo. Good News! A major announcement is coming soon. Not sure it will make it by the 24th, but maybe by Thanksgiving Eve anniversary of the 26th this year.

When I last heard from Sid Rubin and John Detlor they sounded very promising about changes in the FBI culture. I hope this is the breakthrough we've all been waiting for.

I trust you are in touch with Sid and John, and the others such as Bob S.

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Spent some time today watching the Science Channel TV show on the comet landing. It's down, but they won't know anything else until the main spacecraft gets back to the proper position to receive the lander's signals.

Jules Verne would have loved ESA. First, they land the Huygens spacecraft on Titan and get pictures of a place that has sub-zero lakes of liquid methane. Now they drop by a local comet for some pictures and in-flight science.

Yeah, Verne would have loved ESA all right. Besides his more famous '20,000 Leagues' etc he also wrote the novel 'Off On A Comet'.

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'As for more cowbell, I love Christopher Walken, too. In fact, Stand Up Guys is one of my favorite movies.

"It's time to kick ass or chew gum, and I'm all out of gum," sayeth CW.'



Must be a parody film? I think the original quote is by Roddy Piper from the film They Live.


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"...Nick O'Hara was asked about the validity of what I say. As I read his response it was basically that HE could keep a secret and I should also. So I'm the bad guy who is 100% nuts, who dreams up this crap and the guy who everyone wants to discredit...."



When I asked Nick about you and your hypothesis that Richard McCoy was not shot and killed in Virginia Beach but rather shipped out to covert ops, Nick replied that his "integrity had never been questioned before."

I then told him I wasn't questioning his integrity but only asking about a rumor that persists in Cooper World. Nick then informed me that out conversation was over.

I told him that I respect his right to be silent but that is how he goes in the book, as clamming up. Nick then hung up on me and has never repsonded to any of my emails or phone calls since.



Well...maybe that's because you questioned him on a rumor impolitely and failed to ask him the facts. Nick is a retired FBI agent. And when you shoot somebody in that job, a wanted criminal who was not only an escapee, but a bank robber AFTER the escape as well...

There are going to be forms to fill, and people to answer to regarding details surrounding that shooting.

Face it, Bruce:

You are a lousy interviewer right now. Change your interviewing habits and you'll get better results.
Your One-Shot-Only approach just isn't working out for you.

Interviewing people is an art, not insulting people or challenging their credibility without evidence. Nick O'Hara, a former FBI agent who went after the bad guys in a distinguished career, deserves your respect unless proven otherwise. And you haven't proven O'Hara is anyone but a guy who served this country well. Same thing with the retired agent down in Shelton you interviewed, Lee Dormuth. Word gets around, you know.

There are protocol and manners. Your current method of tossing shit in someone's face, and then being surprised when they don't mold it into a tasty evidence-laden meatloaf and toss it back to you on a platter should not be a surprise. Your methods frankly suck because you don't get answers, news, or results from most of these interviews. Right now, even the Weekly World News would laugh at your application if you applied to be a stringer with them.

To make it worse, you come down on some of these people vindictively when they don't provide the answers you believe you deserve. But the truth is that YOU caused this problem all along. Until you stop using people like that, you will never get the results you seek, the answers you want, or the respect you crave.


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I'm glad to see my book: "Still Missing...", made it to the front page of that esteemed list. :$

It's good to know that people are taking a serious look at Dick Lepsy as a suspect in this case. His probably the best suspect out there right now, and one of the only ones that haven't been officially ruled out by the FBI. I believe Dick Lepsy will lead to the solution of the Cooper Case. If it's not him, it's someone like him: a person missing since the skyjacking event who has flown under the radar, but matches the physical description closely.

Hopefully the FBI will share the DNA results which can be checked against missing person DNA via the NAMUS website. Time will tell.

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I'm glad to see my book: "Still Missing...", made it to the front page of that esteemed list. :$

It's good to know that people are taking a serious look at Dick Lepsy as a suspect in this case. His probably the best suspect out there right now, and one of the only ones that haven't been officially ruled out by the FBI. I believe Dick Lepsy will lead to the solution of the Cooper Case. If it's not him, it's someone like him: a person missing since the skyjacking event who has flown under the radar, but matches the physical description closely.

Hopefully the FBI will share the DNA results which can be checked against missing person DNA via the NAMUS website. Time will tell.



With all due respect, I have yet to see anything that makes Lespy a suspect in Norjack. Sure, he hasn't been eliminated, but neither has my dad and I'm pretty sure that he wasn't Cooper. I do however agree that the hijacker may be someone who has disappeared around that time frame. I often wonder about Melvin Wilson. Again, he's probably not the one either. But the fact that he went missing closer to the hijacking, had to dump (oddly enough) 200 grand in fake money and was a known criminal, at least makes him a better suspect than Lespy. I would love to see both cases solved just simply so that the families of these men could have some closure. But I doubt that either would lead to the solution of Norjack.
"They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider

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With all due respect, I have yet to see anything that makes Lespy a suspect in Norjack. Sure, he hasn't been eliminated, but neither has my dad and I'm pretty sure that he wasn't Cooper. I do however agree that the hijacker may be someone who has disappeared around that time frame. I often wonder about Melvin Wilson. Again, he's probably not the one either. But the fact that he went missing closer to the hijacking, had to dump (oddly enough) 200 grand in fake money and was a known criminal, at least makes him a better suspect than Lespy. I would love to see both cases solved just simply so that the families of these men could have some closure. But I doubt that either would lead to the solution of Norjack.



What makes any of the multitude of so called "suspects" suspects? Of course there's not a direct link to any of them, otherwise, the case would have been solved. It's all conjecture. People have been looking for "something" to link suspects to the case for over 40 years now, and where has that gotten us?

Mel Wilson's story is better than Lepsy's, I'll give you that, but Mel also has blue eyes. That's a big obstacle to overcome. I can suspend disbelief though and think both guys should be looked at. These are the type of suspects who should be looked into, not the "same ole, same ole".

With DNA testing becoming less expensive, maybe we can start eliminating some of these new suspects and look for more that fit the criteria of not being seen since the skyjacking event. ;)

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You hit on an interesting point:

"What makes any of the multitude of so called "suspects" suspects?"

I think it takes more than just throwing their name out there. We know that guys like Weber, Peterson and LD Cooper were all looked at by the FBI at one time or another. So I think it's fair to label them as suspects, or at least it was at one time, maybe no so much now. Then you have guys like Kenny Christiansen who have been put out there, that we have nothing from law enforcement - specifically the FBI - that seems to indicate any interest in the guy. To me, that makes him NOT a suspect. Lespy would fall into this category as well. I don't know the exact number of men that went missing around the time of the hijacking or in the years prior. But I wouldn't label any iof them as suspects only because they have remained unaccounted for. Further, I don't believe the FBI should waste time simply eliminating "suspects".
"They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider

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"...Nick O'Hara was asked about the validity of what I say. As I read his response it was basically that HE could keep a secret and I should also. So I'm the bad guy who is 100% nuts, who dreams up this crap and the guy who everyone wants to discredit...."



When I asked Nick about you and your hypothesis that Richard McCoy was not shot and killed in Virginia Beach but rather shipped out to covert ops, Nick replied that his "integrity had never been questioned before."

I then told him I wasn't questioning his integrity but only asking about a rumor that persists in Cooper World. Nick then informed me that out conversation was over.

I told him that I respect his right to be silent but that is how he goes in the book, as clamming up. Nick then hung up on me and has never repsonded to any of my emails or phone calls since.



Well...maybe that's because you questioned him on a rumor impolitely and failed to ask him the facts. Nick is a retired FBI agent. And when you shoot somebody in that job, a wanted criminal who was not only an escapee, but a bank robber AFTER the escape as well...

There are going to be forms to fill, and people to answer to regarding details surrounding that shooting.

Face it, Bruce:

You are a lousy interviewer right now. Change your interviewing habits and you'll get better results.
Your One-Shot-Only approach just isn't working out for you.

Interviewing people is an art, not insulting people or challenging their credibility without evidence. Nick O'Hara, a former FBI agent who went after the bad guys in a distinguished career, deserves your respect unless proven otherwise. And you haven't proven O'Hara is anyone but a guy who served this country well. Same thing with the retired agent down in Shelton you interviewed, Lee Dormuth. Word gets around, you know.

There are protocol and manners. Your current method of tossing shit in someone's face, and then being surprised when they don't mold it into a tasty evidence-laden meatloaf and toss it back to you on a platter should not be a surprise. Your methods frankly suck because you don't get answers, news, or results from most of these interviews. Right now, even the Weekly World News would laugh at your application if you applied to be a stringer with them.

To make it worse, you come down on some of these people vindictively when they don't provide the answers you believe you deserve. But the truth is that YOU caused this problem all along. Until you stop using people like that, you will never get the results you seek, the answers you want, or the respect you crave.

Thanks, Bobby. You are certainly the beacon of Great Journalism. I'll just continue to study your work as a means to improving my own.

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"Well...maybe that's because you questioned him on a rumor impolitely and failed to ask him the facts."




So, what is your approach to interviewing FBI agents? Any tips? I'm trying to remember some of your interviews with G-men, but I can't recall any.

Did you pay Himms the $2,100 for a video interview, or the $600 for a print job? How did that go?

Or Detlor? Johnnie is the last man standing in terms of the Norjak case and is the author of the History of the FBI. I'd be curious to read how you got him to open up.

As for Nick, how did he respond to your queries? Calame? Did you ever get through to Bernie Rhodes?

When you were researching the money find did you speak with Dorwin Schroeder? Everybody loves Dorwin, and he seems to love me. He even invited me to visit him in Montana, which I plan to do one of these days.

Mike McPheters clammed-up on me when I pressed him on shards. He said he found a dozen or so at the tide line, on the surface or just underneath, but there is no documentation that anyone can find, as far as I know. Perhaps you could clear this up for us? I sure hope so.

How about Larry Carr? He's a tough guy to interview. Did his tour of duty as case agent over-lap your research on KC in 2008?

Is Curtis still case agent? Please let me know. Thanks.

Also, rookies-in-1971, George Groetz and Gary Tallis, were pretty chatty, but George bailed when I started pushing him on the details of the ground search. Gary was much more forthcoming. Have you spoken with these guys, yet? I'd love to hear your take on them.

How about Jimmie and Jake? Sail thought they were tight-lipped when he spoke with them in Seattle last spring. Maybe you could get them to open up a bit?

If you're up for a road trip to Palm Desert, maybe I could watch you interview What's-His-Name, the retired case agent who took over from Charlie Farrell in 1979 and was in charge when the money was found in 1980.

Speaking of Charlie, any ideas on how to contact his family? GG says they have a 300-page account of his from the early days of Norjak.

Speaking of sweet-talking G-men, what went south between you and Georger? G is an ideal entree into the Bureau since he has family and friends working there.

Keep me posted, will ya, buddy? Thanks.

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Your response the most uncouth person in this thread:

RobertMBlevins



Well...maybe that's because you questioned him on a rumor impolitely and failed to ask him the facts. Nick is a retired FBI agent. And when you shoot somebody in that job, a wanted criminal who was not only an escapee, but a bank robber AFTER the escape as well...

There are going to be forms to fill, and people to answer to regarding details surrounding that shooting.

Face it, Bruce:

You are a lousy interviewer right now. Change your interviewing habits and you'll get better results.
Your One-Shot-Only approach just isn't working out for you.

Interviewing people is an art, not insulting people or challenging their credibility without evidence. Nick O'Hara, a former FBI agent who went after the bad guys in a distinguished career, deserves your respect unless proven otherwise. And you haven't proven O'Hara is anyone but a guy who served this country well. Same thing with the retired agent down in Shelton you interviewed, Lee Dormuth. Word gets around, you know.

There are protocol and manners. Your current method of tossing shit in someone's face, and then being surprised when they don't mold it into a tasty evidence-laden meatloaf and toss it back to you on a platter should not be a surprise. Your methods frankly suck because you don't get answers, news, or results from most of these interviews. Right now, even the Weekly World News would laugh at your application if you applied to be a stringer with them.

To make it worse, you come down on some of these people vindictively when they don't provide the answers you believe you deserve. But the truth is that YOU caused this problem all along. Until you stop using people like that, you will never get the results you seek, the answers you want, or the respect you crave.



Thank you, Robert that was well, stated. You & I knock heads once in awhile, but YOU have NEVER one time been rude to me and I do respect that.

This is the only post I can make tonight. I do want you to know there is no anamosity between you and I, but with Bruce it has at time made me feel ill to the tummy. I guess that is a polite way to state it.

Lepsy is a big no and so is Kenny, but, because of what came thru in a couple of the interviews you did - (if they can be substanciated) - are the very individuals who paid Duane a visit before he closed the shop. The conversation I had with the woman & her appearance is very close to the younger and the older woman...I remembered her face well, because she was someone from Duane's past.

He did ask her that question I told you about! I did not meet the man who was meeting her at the shop, because I had to get back to work.
Perhap you should have asked them if they had family members on either side in Pensacola, Fl area.

I think you missed the boat on this one - you were close, but that only counts in horseshoes.

Folk I have a LONG trying time ahead of me - I need your prayers & I am scared as hell. I do not know what I am fighting at this time. I have 2 different things going on at one time & that does not count what is coming down with Cooper and with my personal affairs.

I am over loaded right now.

The stress of the multiple things going on at one time is OVER LOAD....and I do not know how it is all going to come out.

Pain has become my constant companion the last few WEEKS & I do NOT care for him....I want him to go away, but I am sure he will be around and make a nuisance of himself for a long time to come.

Pain keeps moving forward like he wants to control me and Cooper is sitting in the back seat. The problem I am experiencing at this time was caused by a DR. who did the wrong thing. Rage has no place in the medical profession.

Add Rage to my passenger list along with some of you guys and others none of you have knowledge of. If you guys knew what all was going on right now in my life - you would wonder how I even function.
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'So, what is your approach to interviewing FBI agents? Any tips? I'm trying to remember some of your interviews with G-men, but I can't recall any...'



Just one. And it was informal.

I know it sounds from my post that I don't like you personally, but nothing could be further from the truth.
I have met you and you seem just fine to me. Let's call my comments 'tough love'. :)
You're a local. You're investigating the Cooper case. These things I like. I think your theories are a bit out there sometimes, but a lot less 'out there' than say...BK for example. I just get tired of you interviewing important people in the case and then they never want to hear from you again. This is not good, my friend. You shouldn't even mention that when it happens. I would leave those things out. If you want to establish a working relationship with some of these people, maybe you should stop pissing them off. That's all. You can do that, I'm sure.

If I didn't like you, I wouldn't have offered to edit and get your book published under your own logo in paperback and for the Kindle...for free. The last time I did that for someone I charged them $2,500, which was a rock-bottom price for book packaging. ('Book Packaging' means you take someone's raw manuscript, edit it, obtain the ISBN and barcode, design the cover and the interior bookblock, get them uploaded for print to Lightning Source with distribution internationally, and enable them for the Kindle version in fourteen different markets.) Out of the $2,500 I charged them, about $500 went directly to publishing expenses like the ISBN, barcode, file upload fees, overnight proof copy, Ingram Advance Notice Catalog entry, etc.

Now they get automatic deposits from Amazon each month and the occasional check from Lightning Source. Everyone was happy with this arrangement and they reached the break-even point in less than a year.

I offered all that up to you for free. That means I LIKE you. I just have a problem with your interview method sometimes. I told you a long time back that if you keep doing like that, you will eventually run out of people to interview. But you can do what you wish. I am not the Boss Who Directs Bruce Smith, as it were.

If and when your book makes it to Amazon, let me know and I will pick up a copy. You know...you can still do the Kindle version yourself for free. It is free to establish a publishing account at Amazon for the Kindle. All you need is a responsible SSN, or a tax ID number, and a bank account where they can make the deposits. :)
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'Thanks, Bobby. You are certainly the beacon of Great Journalism. I'll just continue to study your work as a means to improving my own.'



I don't know. I know your comment is facetious, but maybe you should. 500 illustrated articles and millions of views to my Newsvine column since March 2007 can't be ALL bad. Before Newsvine sold out to MSNBC, they used to PayPal me real money every month. Made over $1,300 there before the switch in ownership stopped paying writers. That's not bad for citizen journalism. Payment was based on views to articles, and I still have the greatest number of illustrated articles onsite. Many articles are linked out to other sites all over the globe. Like this one, or maybe this one. ;)

(On the final reports below, it's quicker if you just skip to page 4)


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I have seen a recent internet posting about a possible new DB Cooper film/TV show being produced in the Los Angeles area, 'financed and slated to begin shooting next month,' according to the person making the posting.

Are you sure you don't mean Edge West's production released in 2012, The Skyjacker That Got Away. (?) It's been out for a while now. Edge West, headed by Philip Day, is also based in Los Angeles. ;)

This alleged claim of a NEW film/TV show out of LA on Cooper is almost certainly false. The person who posted it said he asked his alleged contact 'Has Robert Blevins been invited?' and the supposed answer was no. Of course, the only credit he gives was 'Tweety Bird' and no name is given of any producer. Post was made by G at the alternate site, which frankly...is most likely baloney. G currently spends the majority of his time at the alternate site doing cut/paste from THIS thread and then slamming on those posts over THERE. I would like to see some proof of his claim. Upcoming films and TV shows are heavily promoted beforehand, not a Big Secret, LOL. There is absolutely nothing on Google or in the trades about this alleged production.

Personally...I think G just made the whole thing up (tossing in an alleged comment by an unnamed producer) so he could do another insult about me at the alternate site.

I also believe that G's constant cut-and-paste whining is tiresome. Not to me...but to the good folks trying to make something out of that site. And they do try.

Think about it. Shutter establishes the site and says, 'I did it basically to get away from Blevins and Jo, and to create serious discussion away from Dropzone'. (paraphrased) No problem. But instead of that, he gets nothing but Blevins and Jo. I don't care a whit about that, but the site is becoming boring. I think Shutter should challenge G privately about these things, especially the part where he claims to have inside knowledge on the financing and production of an upcoming film/TV show on Cooper out of the LA area...which mysteriously fails to appear anywhere on searches in the usual places where these things are found. Like I said, these things are heavily promoted long in advance of the actual filming.

In other words...G probably made the whole thing up.
Wait. I already said that, didn't I? ;)


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Just where did you see this posting at?

Speaking of just making things up, have we made any headway yet in determining who the liar is in the Kenny Christiansen saga?
"They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider

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You say: "What makes any of the multitude of so called "suspects" suspects? Of course there's not a direct link to any of them, otherwise, the case would have been solved. It's all conjecture. People have been looking for "something" to link suspects to the case for over 40 years now, and where has that gotten us?"

I say: "The link to Sheridan Peterson is in the four letters DB sent to the news papers. The FBI needs to look at the DNA under the stamps and envelope flaps and then compare with what they have from Sheridon that was taken by the two female FBI Agents. A match (I am sure they will find a match) will prove that Sheridon was not in Nepal as his phony alibi goes but he was in Portland (the scene of the crime). This is the SMOKING GUN in the case and such a simple and easy way to solve the case. The FBI has the four letters but have failed to look at the DNA under the stamps and envelope flaps. "

The FBI deserves to solve their only unsolved skyjacking that is 42 years old and show that they always catch their man.

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I have seen a recent internet posting about a possible new DB Cooper film/TV show being produced in the Los Angeles area, 'financed and slated to begin shooting next month,' according to the person making the posting.

Are you sure you don't mean Edge West's production released in 2012, The Skyjacker That Got Away. (?) It's been out for a while now. Edge West, headed by Philip Day, is also based in Los Angeles. ;)

This alleged claim of a NEW film/TV show out of LA on Cooper is almost certainly false. The person who posted it said he asked his alleged contact 'Has Robert Blevins been invited?' and the supposed answer was no. Of course, the only credit he gives was 'Tweety Bird' and no name is given of any producer. Post was made by G at the alternate site, which frankly...is most likely baloney. G currently spends the majority of his time at the alternate site doing cut/paste from THIS thread and then slamming on those posts over THERE. I would like to see some proof of his claim. Upcoming films and TV shows are heavily promoted beforehand, not a Big Secret, LOL. There is absolutely nothing on Google or in the trades about this alleged production.

Personally...I think G just made the whole thing up (tossing in an alleged comment by an unnamed producer) so he could do another insult about me at the alternate site.

I also believe that G's constant cut-and-paste whining is tiresome. Not to me...but to the good folks trying to make something out of that site. And they do try.

Think about it. Shutter establishes the site and says, 'I did it basically to get away from Blevins and Jo, and to create serious discussion away from Dropzone'. (paraphrased) No problem. But instead of that, he gets nothing but Blevins and Jo. I don't care a whit about that, but the site is becoming boring. I think Shutter should challenge G privately about these things, especially the part where he claims to have inside knowledge on the financing and production of an upcoming film/TV show on Cooper out of the LA area...which mysteriously fails to appear anywhere on searches in the usual places where these things are found. Like I said, these things are heavily promoted long in advance of the actual filming.

In other words...G probably made the whole thing up.
Wait. I already said that, didn't I? ;)



ParrotheadVol

Just where did you see this posting at?

Speaking of just making things up, have we made any headway yet in determining who the liar is in the Kenny Christiansen saga?



Gee ParrotheadVol you bring up a good point. When I first read this revelation, I too wondered where on the internet was this tidbit of information posted. Of course I did this prior to his usually re-editing of his entire post.

At first, I thought he might be scoping out shutter's Cooper site since his post was almost verbatim to what georger had written a few short hours previously. However, that could not be as he never gives the DB Cooper Forum his time or trouble so it could not possible be where he heard it.

So I took it upon myself to do a little internet research. I copy/pasted RMB's DZ post. Then I Googled it. The first Google entry was shutter's DB Copper Forum and goerger's post. I looked at all the other Google entries...nuthin'!

So....no other internet postings that I could find concerning the Cooper show by the History Channel. However, a year ago at the symposium, I (as well as other Cooper attendees), spoke with Geoff Gray at the Swiss Pub. He told us he sold the movie rights to his book. Then about a month ago I spoke with an interested Cooper party about my contact with William Mitchell. During that conversation I heard about the pending interviews taking place.

So...we sit and wait. Is it true? is it baloney? Time will tell.
Melvin Luther Wilson - Missing Person since September 1971:

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Just where did you see this posting at?

Speaking of just making things up, have we made any headway yet in determining who the liar is in the Kenny Christiansen saga?




He can't even be accurate while reporting inaccuracies :)
2013:
Several inaccuracies exist in the article. First, Porteous had nothing to do with the DNA sample. (Neither did Lyle's relatives, since they were embarrassed about the possibility Kenny was Cooper) The sample was provided by Lyle Christiansen to agents out of the Minneapolis office after he called them, and this was before he ever contacted Porteous. Lyle says it was a very short visit.

Lyle and skipp set up the DNA.
Lyle contacted the FBI first, and gave them a sample of his DNA for possible testing later.
Two different stories about the money found on the property.
Two different stories about contacting the FBI. (actually more than that)
I am not a 'crackpot' by any means, I assure you. This Cooper Crap was dropped into my lap, and if I had it to do over again, I would have passed on it since it nearly drove Adventure Books of Seattle into bankruptcy. That is NOT a joke.

This must be "made up" too. that was 4 years ago and yet he is still trying different angles to push the KC saga!

It goes on endlessly with inaccuracies. ;)

One could easily conclude things are being "made up" with the Christiansen saga! watch him reverse everything onto me, and my forum B|
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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that could not be as he never gives the DB Cooper Forum his time or trouble so it could not possible be where he heard it.



It couldn't be from Robert looking on my forum ;)

Robert claims the following....

I deleted the shortcut to that site.
I don't bother with that site anymore.
I gave up the habit.
It's not worth my time.
I only look while at Greg's house on Sunday's.
I look every once in a while.
I can view it anytime I wish.

Who makes up things around here? same twisty turns the KC saga has...;)

You can bet if he visits this site 10 times a day for updates, he does the same over on my forum. B|
"It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

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Brother...are we defensive today or WHAT?

All I asked about was a possible new film/TV show on Cooper.

Wasn't talking about Kenny Christiansen, you know.

On the subject of 'looking at the website' your comments border on paranoia, I swear. You guys act as if that website is the Deep Cover, Super Squirrel Socket Layer DOD Database. Yeah, I took a look this week. So what? You look HERE, don't you? :S

First time in a while. I skipped around most of it, but noticed a legit point, i.e. someone claiming a new TV show/film was being made on Cooper, ('already financed and ready to shoot next month') and my name was mentioned on that post. Sounds like a made-up pile of crap to me. Have we reached the point where G just makes up stuff if he can cram a Blevins insult into it somewhere? Do not speak to me of legitimacy or lies if you fail to question these things. You are talking to the wrong person. You should be talking to G.

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'At first, I thought he might be scoping out shutter's Cooper site since his post was almost verbatim to what georger had written a few short hours previously. However, that could not be as he never gives the DB Cooper Forum his time or trouble so it could not possible be where he heard it.

So I took it upon myself to do a little internet research. I copy/pasted RMB's DZ post. Then I Googled it. The first Google entry was shutter's DB Copper Forum and goerger's post. I looked at all the other Google entries...nuthin'!

So....no other internet postings that I could find concerning the Cooper show by the History Channel. However, a year ago at the symposium, I (as well as other Cooper attendees), spoke with Geoff Gray at the Swiss Pub. He told us he sold the movie rights to his book...'


I will try not to insult you here. Of COURSE I saw it at the other site. And as far as the rights to Gray's book, that is old news. Director Will Gluck was assigned the job of doing the film more than two years ago, but so far no film is forthcoming. One reason might be CBS films got the rights and then decided to shelve the idea. This happens more often than not when book rights are purchased. There have been no updates since. G claims something entirely different and said his source had actually discussed my name on this project, which is frankly a load of BS. There is no 'TV show/Film that has obtained financing and begins shooting next month' (in the LA area). As it happens, Will Gluck has apparently moved on from the Cooper story, whether it was his choice, or the studio's. Sony Pics has assigned him to do the Annie remake and he has already done a comedy pilot for another studio. This probably means the Cooper film is dead for now.

None, zero, zip, nada, negatory. This means G just made the whole thing up so he could pop in with another Blevins insult. As I said, you shouldn't be coming to me about this. You should be asking G. :)
Update on the possible Will Gluck film:

The situation is this. CBS Films has apparently said 'pass' on the project, but Gluck picked it up as the producer through his own banner, Olive Bridge Entertainment. IMDB Pro lists the film as 'in development', but after more than two years they haven't gotten any farther than the script, which is written as a comedy-drama. The script tells the Cooper story through the eyes of three different suspects in the case. What all this means is that Gluck may decide to do the film, but only when he is good and ready to do so, and that might end up being never. When Sony Pics gave him the Annie remake, I think that will keep him busy for a while.


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