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It's a weird deal. Blume is WAY off the description and could not have been Cooper.



OK. Now I'm confused.
"They were saying he was never gonna make it now, now that daylight had set in. But later that night, they were shining those lights back down on that mountain again." - Todd Snider

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ParrotheadVol

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It's a weird deal. Blume is WAY off the description and could not have been Cooper.



OK. Now I'm confused.

This is probably my doing. I wrote asking about Dick Blume, who Robert inferred might also be involved when he first came to the thread.

This was Robert's post on August 21, 2010
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1. There is one question the FBI always asks and the only one they are ever going to respond to. Can you put your subject on the plane?

ANSWER: Not for certain. We know Christiansen, a man named 'Dick B' (last name withheld for now because his wife is still alive) and 'Mike Watson' (alleged man on the ground) took Mike's Airstream trailer and station wagon from Oakville, WA two days before the crime. They completely skipped Thanksgiving dinner and were gone for more than a week. Mike returned to Oakville alone and refused to tell his ex where he had gone. Five months later, his sister got a $5,000 cash loan from Kenny, who was making less than $600 a month and had no savings. Three months later, Kenny bought his house in Bonney Lake for cash. We have hard evidence on both these items. Oakville is located about halfway between Kenny's old apartment in Sumner and Portland, Oregon. Our theory is that Dick B and Mike Watson drove Kenny to the Portland Airport, dropped him off, and then parked off the river at Paradise Point State Park near Battleground, WA. The money found in 1980 was only three or four miles from the park.



This was Robert's post on August 23, 2010

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'Dick B' refers to the person that witness 'Katy Watson' said her ex-husband was with over Thanksgiving 1971 in the trailer and station wagon. Porteous and I believe it's *possible* Dick was involved on the ground. We found out some interesting things about him. He was a paratrooper in WW2, Korea, and possibly in the early days of the Vietnam War. He and the ex-husband 'Mike Watson' did a lot of shady deals together in the 1960's, says the wife, and the two men were good friends. Kenny Christiansen was not involved in these deals, but he knew both men. However, we eliminated Dick B as the actual hijacker because he doesn't even come close to the FBI description, not a bit.

I'll be happy when all of this Cooper stuff is behind me and I can go back to editing books and running AB of Seattle. Trust me on this.



And, believe it or not, that last sentence was also written in 2010...Kinda feels like deja vu, doesn't it?

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'Lo all... Just came across this on tv -> watching "America's dark secrets declassified" on Cooper... With Jerry and Cook inter alia. I'm guessing this has been dissected here at some point already so if anyone can remember what pages or give me a brief summary, would be mice appreciated.

Hope everyone well...
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Not your doing Mark That was my way of pointing out that KC is also WAY off the description as well.
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MarK Bennett says in part:

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'And, believe it or not, that last sentence was also written in 2010...Kinda feels like deja vu, doesn't it?'



For sure. I did review your quotes there from August 2010. I made those posts PRIOR to interviewing Helen Jones and her daughter, and PRIOR to Mrs. Geestman's final interview. Both those interviews changed quite a bit of what I thought I knew about Blume, Christiansen, and Bernie Geestman. In fact, at that point I had already pulled the original version of Blast off the market and was working on the Revised. That was almost four years ago, and the investigation into Christiansen and these other people has been difficult, and sometimes fluid. This is why you keep notes and take recordings, I guess. Especially in the case of Margaret Geestman. Sometimes I would have to consult my notes in interviews with her when she tried to dodge on a point. I would remind her, "Wait...you said this before...which is it, THIS or THAT." She had already let the cat out of the bag by insisting strongly Bernie was involved in the hijacking, and even offering some testimony and a certain amount of evidence to support that statement. But...she didn't want to give up her friend Christiansen, and held back on that until her final interview when I presented her with the testimony from Jones and her daughter. What was she to do? She had to admit (finally) that it was Kenny who went missing that week with her husband. Not Dick Blume (although it is possible he was involved somehow) not the guy from Portland, no one else. Kenny Christiansen. Six previous interviews. She says anyone but Kenny. Interview seven: Yes, it was Kenny.

You could tell she liked Kenny a lot. And when I would return to Auburn from doing an interview with her, I would tell the AB staff: This woman knows everything, but she's never going to TELL us everything. And she didn't. I think she knows every detail on how it all went down, as well as what happened to the money and everything else afterward. But she was terrified of the FBI, there is no doubt of this. She was worried that some way, somehow, she would end up losing everything if they came calling on her. I tried really hard to assauge her fears on this, but I had no luck.

And frankly, I think it's the reason she suddenly sold her ranch and told her lawyer and a bank officer to not to say where she was going. TV show and book come out. Just over a year later she is gone under those circumstances. And she LOVED that ranch, yet something drove her to do that.

People look to me for all the answers on these guys. I am not the FBI. I've done plenty of interviews, some with criminals, but I've never done a criminal investigation. I'm surprised I was able to get as far as I did. So I think it's fair to say it's someone else's turn to check these people out - like say the Seattle FBI. You have to admit if everything that is known about these people, their testimony, the pics and docs, Kenny himself, whatever...had been dropped on the public in say...January 1973...that the FBI would have been all over them like a cheap suit.

But that was forty years ago. Now no one cares, or they don't want to invest the resources.

I will be the first to admit that there has been some amount of confusion in the exact details regarding Kenny and all these people. And sometimes I got excited and posted up things early-on that I probably should not have posted, or didn't research well enough. But I stand by the basic allegations. That Kenny and Bernie were probably the guys who planned and pulled off the Cooper hijacking, and that Margie Geestman found out AFTER THE FACT. (In other words, I don't think she was told anything beforehand) And that when she found out, she was kind of stuck with the whole thing. She kept her mouth shut for nearly forty years and that's not bad.

I asked myself recently: How can I make sense of all this once and for all? How the hell can I present something that is (finally) as accurate as possible for the public regarding KC and these folks and call my role in this DONE?

The answer was simple, and proposed by my good friend Greg the Techie Guy. Re-edit the book with the best information available. Pull it from Amazon and make it free in every possible format. Re-edit the KC report and do the same thing. Give one last presentation in August, and film it for YouTube. If these things are as accurate as possible, then anyone will at least have the basic tools to investigate it further if they choose to do so.

And leave it at that. :)
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'No matter what he may have done, he (Kenny) was still a nice guy...'

'Even if Kenny was aboard the plane that day, he wasn't hijacking it. He was just doing his job.'

Margie Geestman



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'You're asking me for my opinion? (on whether Kenny could be the hijacker) Yes. He looks just him.' (picture in the FBI sketch)

Bernie Geestman on Decoded




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ParrotheadVol

Not your doing Mark That was my way of pointing out that KC is also WAY off the description as well.



5+ years in, and we still have not heard one word about Kenny's
(familial) speech patterns, from Gray or Blevins!

No accent? I doubt that. Minnesota Norwegian-Germanic?

The Gay Effect?

Any truth to the rumor Kenny spoke with a lis'psh?

Any truth to the rumor Kenny spoke like Lyle?

5'8", bald, wrong eye color, and now we are told Kenny spoke
with a detectable speech pattern(s) which witnesses missed too?

Could DB Cooper have been in a Cocker Spaniel costume and
that passed notice too? How far are we willing to go down this
road of denial and gullibility for the sake of social media
enterprise and entertainment ?

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***Not your doing Mark That was my way of pointing out that KC is also WAY off the description as well.



5+ years in, and we still have not heard one word about Kenny's
(familial) speech patterns, from Gray or Blevins!

No accent? I doubt that. Minnesota Norwegian-Germanic?

The Gay Effect?

Any truth to the rumor Kenny spoke with a lis'psh?

Any truth to the rumor Kenny spoke like Lyle?

5'8", bald, wrong eye color, and now we are told Kenny spoke
with a detectable speech pattern(s) which witnesses missed too?

Could DB Cooper have been in a Cocker Spaniel costume and
that passed notice too? How far are we willing to go down this
road of denial and gullibility for the sake of social media
enterprise and entertainment ?

Kenny spoke English. You admit you're quoting 'rumors' as well. And you're flogging the sketch and the witness descriptions again. Kenny matches the sketch fairly well, and unless Geoff Gray (the guy you like to quote as truthful) is lying, he says he saw the original witness reports taken by the FBI agents, and that the descriptions differed greatly whether you look at the stews' testimony, or the passengers. I reminded you already that the Green River Task Force didn't recognize their own killer even though his sketch was plastered all over their walls and they interviewed him in their own offices.

You understand of course...that if the FBI ever decided to bring in the people listed in the KC report...that if the allegations in the report are true they would get to the bottom of the whole thing rather quickly? I never said I was absolutely sure Kenny was the hijacker. I just said enough has been presented that I think they should take a look at him. So far, they have not.

As I said in the previous post, the best road to take here is for me to present three basic things in August and leave it at that. Doing this...sooner or later someone is going to figure out the truth on Kenny one way or another. What that truth actually is remains to be seen. He has not been proven to be Cooper. But the tools will be available to find out.

Not long ago, I shifted gears on this whole thing. I'm not going to sit here and somehow try to 'prove' Kenny was the hijacker by typing at a keyboard. I am also reluctant to release anything new on Kenny before August on this website. The two reasons for this are trust issues, and the fact that some people here don't trust me either. Or they attack me personally, or tell lies on another site where I'm not allowed to defend myself, and then come here with their questions. As if I owe them answers, which I do not. (I do get reports on what goes on over there from time to time, although the last time I told him 'I don't want to see that stuff anymore'.) To boil it down, trust goes both ways. The only group I feel I owe anything to is the public, because many of them have bought into the book, or the idea that KC could have been Cooper. So I owe THEM my best effort on any final information presented on KC. To Cooperland? Nothing. My experiences with them have been generally good, and sometimes really ugly. It kind of gives you a jaded view of the whole thing. :)
About KC: I will simply make it easier for others to find out the truth about Kenny on their own. I'm not investing any more time or resources on this, except for what I'm doing this August. After that, I will no longer actively investigate any of it.

As far as the screenplay we're doing, that's the one place where I will take some literary license. And I'm basing some scenes on what I believe (in 2014) actually happened that Thanksgiving week. Chances are 1% or less it will ever be made into an actual film. I call it more catharsis than anything else. It's just a creative statement on what I think is the truth. Call it closure, I guess. I figure going with Greg's plan will have the desired effect. Sooner or later...someone will get to the truth on Kenny. I have always felt strongly about that.
I understand that some people in Cooperland don't like any of these things, but I'm not doing it for them. :)
EDIT: Point of Order: Can we agree that the best, most updated information we have available on Kenny Christiansen will be presented in August, once and for all? And that Kenny currently has NOT been proven to be Cooper? And that after Greg's plan is implemented...Kenny still won't be proven as Cooper?

If we can agree to these things, then we can move on to talking about something else BESIDES Kenny. After we update the book, provide it free, update the KC report, make it free, put the slideshow presentation on YouTube...then you can complain. Or ask questions. Or investigate on your own. Until then, we should move on.


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EDIT: Point of Order: Can we agree that the best, most updated information we have available on Kenny Christiansen will be presented in August, once and for all? And that Kenny currently has NOT been proven to be Cooper? And that after Greg's plan is implemented...Kenny still won't be proven as Cooper?

If we can agree to these things, then we can move on to talking about something else BESIDES Kenny. After we update the book, provide it free, update the KC report, make it free, put the slideshow presentation on YouTube...then you can complain. Or ask questions. Or investigate on your own. Until then, we should move on.



I think we can all agree on that. You're Kenny's sponsor. I think it's safe to say most of us don't consider Kenny a viable suspect. So, if you don't talk about him, I think we'll have moved on.

But, if you've researched Kenny's financial and property transactions, I will be curious to see what you've come up with.

I can tell you if you found bank statements showing $200,000 in deposits right after the hijacking, you might change my mind!

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EDIT: Point of Order: Can we agree that the best, most updated information we have available on Kenny Christiansen will be presented in August, once and for all? And that Kenny currently has NOT been proven to be Cooper? And that after Greg's plan is implemented...Kenny still won't be proven as Cooper?

If we can agree to these things, then we can move on to talking about something else BESIDES Kenny. After we update the book, provide it free, update the KC report, make it free, put the slideshow presentation on YouTube...then you can complain. Or ask questions. Or investigate on your own. Until then, we should move on.



I think we can all agree on that. You're Kenny's sponsor. I think it's safe to say most of us don't consider Kenny a viable suspect. So, if you don't talk about him, I think we'll have moved on.

But, if you've researched Kenny's financial and property transactions, I will be curious to see what you've come up with.

I can tell you if you found bank statements showing $200,000 in deposits right after the hijacking, you might change my mind!

Now for Kenny to deposit thousands of dollars into a bank account right after the hijacking would be pretty dumb, don't you think? And even if he had bought the house for straight-up cash (he financed a portion) it wouldn't prove anything. The case against him relies mostly on witness testimony, circumstantial evidence, a resemblance to the sketch, (albeit some minor differences with some of the witness descriptions) a known resentment against the very airline he worked for, parachute experience, and no known alibi for the time of the hijacking. The loan to Dawn Androsko, and to a certain extent the arrangements on the house are suspicious, but don't directly connect him to the hijacking. The most recent item I just can't reconcile is Bernie Geestman saying he thinks Kenny could be the hijacker, when at least three witnesses place him WITH Kenny the entire week the hijacking occurred. Too bad Decoded couldn't convince Helen Jones to appear. Or that Geestman himself stayed silent when they asked him where he was that week.

Think about it. It's not about the money. Even if Kenny suddenly made a huge deposit, you could explain that in other ways. Maybe he won big at gambling. Maybe he smuggled diamonds. Who knows? I've always said it isn't so much about the money, but about OTHER things that more relate to the circumstances of the hijacking itself. Hell...even the fact that the JC Penneys was on the same road he used to go to work. :)
Just saying. And I'm not the only one who believes he was involved. You should see the emails we get. Sometimes the phone calls. Now NWA wants to show up for the presentation, in the person of Bruce Kitt and others who once worked for the airline. Kitt has seen all the evidence now. He says we might be onto something, but he wants to see everything, enough so that he will fly out from Minneapolis this August.

I call this 'pressure'. :)
EDIT: Anyone who wishes to attend the slideshow this August, the one held privately, must apply by the end of June because that's when we print up the theater programs and finalize the guest list. No PM's. You must provide your true name, the city where you live, any special needs you have, and send this request to adventurebooksofseattleAT G-Frickin' Mail Dot Com. Only people on the list will be allowed to attend after-hours.


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RobertMBlevins

He says we might be onto something, but he wants to see everything, enough so that he will fly out from Minneapolis this August.



Robert,
Just like the others with a favored suspect, you are starting from the position that you know who the hijacker is and then try to fit the existing evidence into your story.

The problem is you start a step behind the others. Jo, Marla, the Foremans -- they all heard or believe they heard someone say their preferred suspect is the hijacker. Marge and Bernie might point fingers at each other, but none will affirmatively point to Kenny.

That's ok....it's just a hurdle to overcome. You can do it, but there has to be more.

The number of emails you get supporting Kenny as the hijacker don't count. Those are probably not from people who as knowledgeable about the case as those on this forum. Having lots of supporters don't help your case. To paraphrase Einstein, if you could prove it, you wouldn't need any.

Then, you come down to the physical description.

Too short....The SHORTEST description anyone gave was 5'9". You're trying to stretch a 5'8" man into that description.

Too bald....You suggest he could have been wearing a toupee. Look the drawing from Flo's description. Severe widow's peak. That is the look of a balding man, not a bald man, and certainly not a toupee wearing man.

Too white...You suggest he could be tanned. The description was closer to southern European than tanned. Even if you decide to stay with the tanned angle, why was he still tanned when it is almost December? Who suggests he was tanned in the late fall?

Then, there is the description of Kenny's personality. By all accounts, he was a good guy. Everybody liked him. He had no criminal history. Is this the kind of guy that would kidnap 30+ people and ransom them? He doesn't fit that.

He had a grudge against Northwest Airlines? He stayed with them 20 years AFTER the hijacking. That fact belies both the grudge and the claim he came into a bunch of money.

Then, you get into his finances. You originally started with his house. We now know he didn't buy it for cash. The house he bought was not a house a wealthy man would have bought. This was a house not much larger than a trailer on a rural highway. We now know he assumed a mortgage for half of it. Is the financing of the other half suspicious? As near as I can tell -- it's not suspicious. It's just that nobody has taken them time or made the effort to look it up.

The loan to Dawn Androsko. That raises lots of red flags. That $5000 loan is worth $25,000 in 2014. Who borrows that kind of money from a stranger? Wouldn't she worry someone would break her legs if she didn't pay up? And, how does a single woman with three kids pay back that kind of money in two years? There's a lot more to that story. You seem to take a lot of it at face value.

You then say
A. Bernie says Kenny could be the hijacker
B. Bernie was with Kenny that weekend
Therefore -- Kenny is the hijacker.

For someone who says Bernie is a big liar, you seem to believe he wasn't lying when he made that first statement.

We don't know for sure what Bernie or Kenny were doing that weekend, or even if they were together, but lets stipulate that they were. If we go back to Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is most likely -- they were doing something they didn't want anyone to know about. It's quite a leap (no pun intended) to assume he's the hijacker.

So, since you like to post lists, let's review.

1) Kenny doesn't match the description
2) He has no history of criminal activity
3) He lived in a small home and kept working after the hijacking
4) He left an estate not inconsistent with the sale of timber land in the early 1990s.
5) You base your case on witness testimony, but none of the witnesses will state Kenny was Cooper.


You can tell a good story and make it sound like Kenny is a good suspect. But, when you step back and look at it, the question is not "Is Kenny a viable suspect?". The question is "Why is Kenny a suspect at all?".

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Orange1

'Lo all... Just came across this on tv -> watching "America's dark secrets declassified" on Cooper... With Jerry and Cook inter alia. I'm guessing this has been dissected here at some point already so if anyone can remember what pages or give me a brief summary, would be mice appreciated.

Hope everyone well...




Wow, Orange, welcome home!

Yeah, both Jerry T and Galen got screen time on TV. I don't remember how much we talked about it here, as we have been very busy as you can see - back-stabbing, character assassinating, name-calling and such.

You were conjured a few months ago when we were discussing different way to torture me. Jo wanted me strung up by my balls until I squealed, while Miss Amazona was smitten with the notion of kicking my ass out the door of an airplane at 14,000 feet. The big issue was, as I recall, whether folks wanted me to be wearing an actual parachute or not - regardless of whether it was an NB-8 or Pioneer.

It was further speculated that you might be more in the camp of those who desired me to depart from the plane without a parachute - but that was only speculation, since you've been busy elsewhere, obviously.

Regardless, 377 assured everyone that he would be right behind me and perform a rescue in some not yet fully detailed aerial snatch, but he did go on record as he did not want to see a good journalist "bounce."

As for Galen and the TV show, I think our conversations centered less on his rowboating activites at Tina Bar and more along the lines if he should join me in the stringing up ceremonies, after which he suggested that I be appointed a Guardian Ad Litem for Mrs Cooper by the State of Florida.

As for Jerry T, he was pretty much quiet here despite his Hollywood moments, and only drew attention when he called me to say that everything that Jo has said is "100% bullshit."

JT also went on to say that he had spoken to the nurse on duty in 1995 at Duane's health care facility and the nurse said that she only heard Duane mumble something about knowing who DB Cooper was, and never announced that he was Dan Cooper himself, as his lovely widow now claims.

Some other DZ News that you might enjoy:

After getting placed on vacation here twice - the last time for talking too much sex stuff, such as did Eng really have sex with Marla - Mr Shutter and I teamed up to develop alternative sites to the DZ so that we could discuss issues that matter to us without fear of being tortured (or of being called a murderer, which was another high-point of this thread several months back). The task of getting a high-octane discussion site off the ground fell to Shut, and it's up and running at:

http://www.thedbcooperforum.com/

Anyways, good to have you back sittin' with us at the Cooper table.

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Saw Mark Bennett's post above, but I'm not going to answer it. We could go round and round on that one all day. Or all year. You want to know the updated evidence on KC, see you in August or catch the vid on YouTube.

If any of you have ever considered buying a chute either the same or similar to the one Cooper jumped with, here's your chance and you can do it for less than two hundred bucks, which includes the shipping. I've even thought about buying it myself. :)
What the heck. I put a bid on it. May as well blow off some of that royalty money, the vast majority of which is NOT Cooper-based. (*smiles*) Trust me on this. He's a loser in that department.

If I win the bidding, maybe I can get 377 to have it inspected/repacked and he can show me how to use it.

That was a joke. A whuffo like me has no business jumping out of a perfectly good aircraft. :)


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"...EDIT: Anyone who wishes to attend the slideshow this August, the one held privately, must apply by the end of June because that's when we print up the theater programs and finalize the guest list. No PM's. You must provide your true name, the city where you live, any special needs you have, and send this request to adventurebooksofseattleAT G-Frickin' Mail Dot Com. Only people on the list will be allowed to attend after-hours...."


Wow. Secret showings! Now, that's my kind of Cooper Sleuthing Extravaganza. Can I come just for the after-hours elbow-rubbin'?

Do I need to apply, or should I just inform the Auburn PD that I plan to attend? Please let me know as my budget this year for bail payments has already been reached. T-Y, Bobby - All the best!

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"...EDIT: Anyone who wishes to attend the slideshow this August, the one held privately, must apply by the end of June because that's when we print up the theater programs and finalize the guest list. No PM's. You must provide your true name, the city where you live, any special needs you have, and send this request to adventurebooksofseattleAT G-Frickin' Mail Dot Com. Only people on the list will be allowed to attend after-hours...."


Wow. Secret showings! Now, that's my kind of Cooper Sleuthing Extravaganza. Can I come just for the after-hours elbow-rubbin'?

Do I need to apply, or should I just inform the Auburn PD that I plan to attend? Please let me know as my budget this year for bail payments has already been reached. T-Y, Bobby - All the best!



If you were serious, you would have emailed me rather than making fun of the whole thing. So I will assume you aren't serious about attending and leave it at that.

Welcome back, though.

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After getting placed on vacation here twice - the last time for talking too much sex stuff, such as did Eng really have sex with Marla - Mr Shutter and I teamed up to develop alternative sites to the DZ so that we could discuss issues that matter to us without fear of being tortured (or of being called a murderer, which was another high-point of this thread several months back). The task of getting a high-octane discussion site off the ground fell to Shut, and it's up and running at: (gives link to alternate site)



It's not 'high-octane'. It's populated by The Usual Suspects, some of whom were banned from Dropzone for attacks...and isn't even being crawled by Google spiders.

That said, I still think it's a good idea believe it or not. You guys may actually figure out something new on the case. But if you're expecting the general public to flock to the site in droves, I wouldn't count on it. Everyone knows what it is about. It's slanted, and people can spot that type of discrimination miles away baby. And that doesn't sell very well.

The Chosen Ones. The Few, The Proud, The Whatever.

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"They deserve each other over there..."



Here's another one for you from George Orwell, which I think applies greatly to you guys:

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"All animals are equal. But some are more equal than others..."




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***He says we might be onto something, but he wants to see everything, enough so that he will fly out from Minneapolis this August.



Robert,
Just like the others with a favored suspect, you are starting from

So, since you like to post lists, let's review.

1) Kenny doesn't match the description
2) He has no history of criminal activity
3) He lived in a small home and kept working after the hijacking
4) He left an estate not inconsistent with the sale of timber land in the early 1990s.
5) You base your case on witness testimony, but none of the witnesses will state Kenny was Cooper.


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And if you believe the rumors, he had a speech impediment! A
LISP'TSCH? Good grief Blevins. You withheld vital info.

Your smart ass reply: "He spoke English" cinches it.

Find a new set of suckers you can milk for 4 years. Say hello to
Myers & Dvorak. :D

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***'Lo all... Just came across this on tv -> watching "America's dark secrets declassified" on Cooper... With Jerry and Cook inter alia. I'm guessing this has been dissected here at some point already so if anyone can remember what pages or give me a brief summary, would be mice appreciated.

Hope everyone well...




Wow, Orange, welcome home!

Yeah, both Jerry T and Galen got screen time on TV. I don't remember how much we talked about it here, as we have been very busy as you can see - back-stabbing, character assassinating, name-calling and such.

You were conjured a few months ago when we were discussing different way to torture me. Jo wanted me strung up by my balls until I squealed, while Miss Amazona was smitten with the notion of kicking my ass out the door of an airplane at 14,000 feet. The big issue was, as I recall, whether folks wanted me to be wearing an actual parachute or not - regardless of whether it was an NB-8 or Pioneer.

It was further speculated that you might be more in the camp of those who desired me to depart from the plane without a parachute - but that was only speculation, since you've been busy elsewhere, obviously.

Regardless, 377 assured everyone that he would be right behind me and perform a rescue in some not yet fully detailed aerial snatch, but he did go on record as he did not want to see a good journalist "bounce."

As for Galen and the TV show, I think our conversations centered less on his rowboating activites at Tina Bar and more along the lines if he should join me in the stringing up ceremonies, after which he suggested that I be appointed a Guardian Ad Litem for Mrs Cooper by the State of Florida.

As for Jerry T, he was pretty much quiet here despite his Hollywood moments, and only drew attention when he called me to say that everything that Jo has said is "100% bullshit."

JT also went on to say that he had spoken to the nurse on duty in 1995 at Duane's health care facility and the nurse said that she only heard Duane mumble something about knowing who DB Cooper was, and never announced that he was Dan Cooper himself, as his lovely widow now claims.

Some other DZ News that you might enjoy:

After getting placed on vacation here twice - the last time for talking too much sex stuff, such as did Eng really have sex with Marla - Mr Shutter and I teamed up to develop alternative sites to the DZ so that we could discuss issues that matter to us without fear of being tortured (or of being called a murderer, which was another high-point of this thread several months back). The task of getting a high-octane discussion site off the ground fell to Shut, and it's up and running at:

http://www.thedbcooperforum.com/

Anyways, good to have you back sittin' with us at the Cooper table.

Hey Ive got an idea!

Now that Blevins is finished and kaput ... let's invite Marla
Baaack!

:D

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'And if you believe the rumors, he talked with a speech impediment! A LIP'TSCH? Good grief Blevins. You witheld vital info.

Your smartass reply: "He spoke English" cinches it.'



I don't pay attention to 'rumors'. Like opinions and assholes, everyone has their own, or their favorite.

I see from your posts above that you have switched on Attack Dog Mode again. Typical...and expected. You, as I have said on a few occasions, are nothing but predictable.


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'And if you believe the rumors, he talked with a speech impediment! A LIP'TSCH? Good grief Blevins. You witheld vital info.

Your smartass reply: "He spoke English" cinches it.'



I don't pay attention to 'rumors'. Like opinions and assholes, everyone has their own, or their favorite.



Funny! Double Funny!

So you admit it is a rumor!

How long did you think you could keep this from us? Four years is
pretty good OM. Did you think this would stay hidden forever?

NO ACCENT KENNY! ja? da sa yaklic vademaikum?

PLAY THE TAPE OF LYLE!

Har du vært å skru oss?

You little scoundrel you! :S:S:S:S

Oh si kan du se
av ser dagens lys tidlig
lett kyrne i sky
og villokser i havaet?

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'And if you believe the rumors, he talked with a speech impediment! A LIP'TSCH? Good grief Blevins. You witheld vital info.

Your smartass reply: "He spoke English" cinches it.'



I don't pay attention to 'rumors'. Like opinions and assholes, everyone has their own, or their favorite.



Funny! Double Funny!

So you admit it is a rumor!

How long did you think you could keep this from us? Four years is
pretty good OM. Did you think this would stay hidden forever?

NO ACCENT KENNY! ja? da sa yaklic vademaikum?

PLAY THE TAPE OF LYLE!

You little scoundrel you! :S:S:S:S

I haven't the slightest idea what you are babbling on about. I don't think you do either. FBI says 'possibly from the Midwest' on the accent. It was on the wanted poster. :S


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'And if you believe the rumors, he talked with a speech impediment! A LIP'TSCH? Good grief Blevins. You witheld vital info.

Your smartass reply: "He spoke English" cinches it.'



I don't pay attention to 'rumors'. Like opinions and assholes, everyone has their own, or their favorite.



Funny! Double Funny!

So you admit it is a rumor!

How long did you think you could keep this from us? Four years is
pretty good OM. Did you think this would stay hidden forever?

NO ACCENT KENNY! ja? da sa yaklic vademaikum?

PLAY THE TAPE OF LYLE!

You little scoundrel you! :S:S:S:S

I haven't the slightest idea what you are babbling about. I don't think you do either. FBI says 'possibly from the Midwest' on the accent. It was on the wanted poster. :S

A mid a vest? das sa yaklik midder vest? ja?

Å ka ska du med mer enn du kan tæll? Koffor e ... Å dæven han steike det e itj nå leik mer ... Sje mæ sitt der klar foran skjermen, klar itj å tenk mer alt går

Pater familias mit brodder Lyle?

Areet ouy actually sitting here now, after four long years, and
telling us you dont know the derivation von that family and its
linguistic place on Earth!?

Why shame on you clever boy.

Its been there all along hidden in plane sight.

It was brought up first month you were here years ago. You
denied it, clever boy.

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JT also went on to say that he had spoken to the nurse on duty in 1995 at Duane's health care facility and the nurse said that she only heard Duane mumble something about knowing who DB Cooper was, and never announced that he was Dan Cooper himself, as his lovely widow now claims.



>:(RIGHT back where YOU started with the ENQUIRER type SMUT talk! I have been quiet and NOT saying much - PERHAPS you need to figure that one out.

Jerry NEVER interviewed the hospital nurse nor did he interview me. For ONE thing MR. ENQUIRER - I never claimed the nurses heard anything other than his VOICE when he raised it and he shouted out "OH F---, LET IT DIE WITH ME!" After he had spent several minutes TRYING to explain to me what he was talking about.

NOTHING about the interview from the beginning to now has changed. The NURSES did NOT enter the room until he shouted out " OH! F---, LET IT DIE WITH ME!"

LIKE your other so called interviews - you make up things - such as with me & with Tina! Wonder why GALEN didn't just knock on her door and tell her who he was instead of approaching her were she worked claiming some kind of problem.

COOK lies!
I can prove that!

Why did HE SEND you to approach her?
HAVE u ever asked yourself why he did that?

PLEASE LEAVE JO OUT OF YOU SMUT GARBAGE TALK! I have been pretty quiet for a while - but when someone SPEWS GARBAGE then I will be lofting around & I will set the RECORD straight.

You INSERT yourself into a story when U have had NO part of it. Hogs like Mud & they eat the hell out of Garbage. It is called Slopping the Hogs!
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

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***"...EDIT: Anyone who wishes to attend the slideshow this August, the one held privately, must apply by the end of June because that's when we print up the theater programs and finalize the guest list. No PM's. You must provide your true name, the city where you live, any special needs you have, and send this request to adventurebooksofseattleAT G-Frickin' Mail Dot Com. Only people on the list will be allowed to attend after-hours...."


Wow. Secret showings! Now, that's my kind of Cooper Sleuthing Extravaganza. Can I come just for the after-hours elbow-rubbin'?

Do I need to apply, or should I just inform the Auburn PD that I plan to attend? Please let me know as my budget this year for bail payments has already been reached. T-Y, Bobby - All the best!



If you were serious, you would have emailed me rather than making fun of the whole thing. So I will assume you aren't serious about attending and leave it at that.

Welcome back, though...."

Thanks, Bobby, for the Howdy!

As for personal emails asking for admittance to the secret club house meetings on Cooper, it's not really my style.

I'm more on an open-sourced, Crowd-Sourced kind of guy. I give and I get, ya know what I mean?

Have you found Billy Mitchell, yet? I hear his family still lives in Auburn. Went To AHS, etc. If you see him, let him know a few people would like to get in touch, like me and Vicki. It seems the WSHM knows exactly where he is, but they have him in some sort of Witness Protection Program.

Just what we need in Norjak - more secrets.

And scaredy-cats. I mean really, what's got Billy so cranky?

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Say, Skyjack71, I've got a couple questions for ya.

First, are you absolutely convinced that Duane was DB Cooper?

If yes, okay. If not, why not?

If yes, what's all the hoopla about? You want us to believe you? Accept your statements? Why is our agreement so important?

And if we did believe that Duane was DB, then what? What would you do next?

Just askin'.

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So, what would Jesus do? More importantly, what would Orange1 do?

1. Kick me outta da plane anyway she could just to get me the F**K outta da plane, screaming, "This one's for Tina!!!"?

2. Kick me, but only if I had a parachute?

3. Kick me if it was only an NB-8?

4. Kick me only if it was Norm Hayden's Pioneer?

5. She wouldn't kick me, but would refer me to a therapist.

6. Make a landing in the bush where the coke bottle fell a long time ago and tell me, "Yup, the Gods must be crazy." Then, give me a water bottle and a dictionary for Bush People language, and wave good-bye?

Like I said, Orange, welcome home. BTW, what's new with you? How's the kid?

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Bobby, same question.

Suppose we helped you prove that KC was DB, what would you do?

More to the point, how can we help? Whadda ya need, bro? What's it gonna take to put KC over the top?

Imagine if your quest to prove KC is DB Cooper had the full backing of the DZ, and then went viral on the Internet - wouldn't that make for a great screen play?

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