lewis321 0 #1 March 9, 2003 I would like some input on RSLs. Ya or Na ? I would like some opinions and personal experiences. I would also like to know how you would react to a pilot chute in tow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #2 March 9, 2003 Search both this site and rec.skydiving (on Google) for the answers to both of your questions. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #3 March 9, 2003 Believe me - both have discussed here lots of times. doa search in this and the G and R forums. ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USPA 0 #4 March 9, 2003 And I would like to know if to use a pillow or normal silver for my reserve. And what about pull-out versus throw-out? uhm... oyeah... isn't it an Idea to make an AAD mandatory? You get the point.... The trouble with skydiving; If you stink at it and continue to jump, you'll die. If you're good at it and continue to jump, you'll see a lot of friends die... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #5 March 9, 2003 and you should NEVER jump with out a CYPRES Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #6 March 9, 2003 QuoteYou get the point.... And YOUR point is???? This is and will continue to be a never ending debate. It is still a new question to the person who asked it. CheersMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #7 March 9, 2003 Quote and you should NEVER jump with out a CYPRES Like CyPReS is the only AAD that works ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #8 March 9, 2003 OK This is what I do - It's works for me but what you do is up to you- No RSL - Mostly just because I bought my rig without one, and never bothered to have one put on. I guess it might be a good idea, but it's up to you- Cypres - I prefer one myself. PC in tow - Look over my shoulder then go for both the handles. More opinions? Seek and ye shall find-- Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #9 March 10, 2003 Quote I would like some input on RSLs. Ya or Na ? I would like some opinions and personal experiences. I would also like to know how you would react to a pilot chute in tow. I won't answer the RSL question. I Don't use one but wish a friend of mine would have had one......My Belief is if you throw something out , Cutaway go to reserve. Tossing a pilot chute is something out. It is also argued that it wastes time to cutaway a PC in tow. Since each person reacts different I can only say what I do. Keep in mind I'm a Rigger, Instructor and have made a few jumps so my thinking has changed through progression and knowledge of how the equipment works. Pilot chutes Tow for a few reasons. Uncocked Pilot chute, Some reason the PC is in a knot, Throw the Pilot chute, you find it's being towed behind you. The moment you pull the Reserve rip cord, and the Reserve freebag is out of the reserve pack tray, there is no longer any tension on the divider wall between the main and the reserve compartment. There fore the pin tension is generally minimal allowing the main pin to come out much easier. The question is, just fire the reserve? or Cutaway. Rick Horn agreed with: If you throw somethingout, to cutaway and then Pull the reserve. One must be quick in this situation and know your altitude. I go for Both Handles at the same time in that situation.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #10 March 10, 2003 Main reason I practise chop then pull is that I don't want to be thinking "do I chop this, or just pull the reserve pad" when screaming through 2000 feet. If I can keep my drills the same, I will.____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeat10500 9 #11 March 10, 2003 >I would also like to know how you would react to a pilot chute in tow. I would wake up screaming in a cold sweat!----------------------------------- Mike Wheadon B-3715,HEMP#1 Higher Expectations for Modern Parachutists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 56 #12 March 10, 2003 QuoteMain reason I practise chop then pull is that I don't want to be thinking "do I chop this, or just pull the reserve pad" when screaming through 2000 feet. If I can keep my drills the same, I will. How about pulling reserve handle first and cutaway second, fraction of second later? You are still pulling both handles, but the reserve first, so no time is wasted for reserve (an argument that "reserve only in PC in tow" often people bring up)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewis321 0 #13 March 10, 2003 Never jumped without one. That is one thing I have no question about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayhawkJumper 0 #14 March 10, 2003 Wouldn't a good reply to the RSL question here since its been debated so many times be: Ask your instructor the pros and cons of having one and make an informed decision for yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #15 March 10, 2003 QuoteLike CyPReS is the only AAD that works I wouldn't know...as I dont use an AAD.... QuoteNever jumped without one. That is one thing I have no question about. why????? Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #16 March 10, 2003 Quote I wouldn't know...as I dont use an AAD.... I thought everyone didn't ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #17 March 10, 2003 Quote I thought everyone didn't unfortunately some people feel the need for a security blanket in a sport where there is no TRUE security blanket.... it just doesn't make sense to me for that someone will not jump a rig just because it has no cypres....I just dont get it.... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #18 March 10, 2003 Quote How about pulling reserve handle first and cutaway second, fraction of second later? Never Ever Practive pulling your handles out of order. Not on the Ground and not in a fake scenario. -My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USPA 0 #19 March 10, 2003 Ahh.. I'm probably and old fashioned netcitizen.... Still use netiquette, doing searches and stuff... There was a TROL alert going off at my pc....The trouble with skydiving; If you stink at it and continue to jump, you'll die. If you're good at it and continue to jump, you'll see a lot of friends die... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samp76 0 #20 March 10, 2003 Remember it is possible to disconnect the RSL if the need be. My opinion is to have one but I can always disconnect it if I have to. AAD there is no question about having one - You need to. --Sam--Let go of the NUT!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #21 March 10, 2003 QuoteAAD there is no question about having one - You need to. Why? Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #22 March 10, 2003 Quote it just doesn't make sense to me for that someone will not jump a rig just because it has no cypres I know at least 2 people who WILL NOT jump if their rig doesn't have an AAD. If that's the case, you swhould re-consider if this sport is for you or not. I'm not anti-AAD at all, in fact I'd like one, but I'm happy without.____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #23 March 10, 2003 QuoteI'm not anti-AAD at all, in fact I'd like one, but I'm happy without. exactly.... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #24 March 10, 2003 QuoteRemember it is possible to disconnect the RSL if the need be. My opinion is to have one but I can always disconnect it if I have to. AAD there is no question about having one - You need to. I don't buy this argument. I don't think I could find and disconnect my RSL fast enough in a violent spin, the one type of mal where I would want it disconnected. If I jump with an RSL, I have to assume that I won't be able to or won't have time to disconnect it before cutting away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam 0 #25 March 10, 2003 If your gonna use an RSL, make sure your stable when you dump. I seen a guy dump when he was on his back, this caused the main to snag the RSL, which in turn dumped his reserve for him. After that all he had above his head was a complete pile of shit. I'm sorry to say the guy didn't survive. Be aware. I personally don't use one. Ian"Don't ever knock on deaths door, just ring the bell and run away - it really pisses him off" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
