C.SpenceFLY 0 #51 October 26, 2005 Mike you really didn't expect anything different did you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chutingstar 1 #52 October 26, 2005 QuoteMike you really didn't expect anything different did you? Of course not...actually surprised it took them so long...2 months. And also that they haven't stolen the rant and rave yet.ChutingStar.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #53 October 26, 2005 QuoteThe good stuff is that their staff of senior riggers and riggers-in-training claim they do "major skydiving harness/container repairs and alterations." The FAA wouldn't like that since that is explicity a master rigger job. The web site also claims they have "master" riggers...whatever...they don't...not that it matters, but they just don't. The copy for the services, FAQ, staff and contact pages were taken nearly verbatim from the chutingstar site...funny how they immediately have the same standards I have. Mike Not surprised they would do that... Nothing surprises me anymore about Ben and Cary. They proved they were capable of doing anything when they stole a dead man's business phone number... Since the FAA wouldn't be too happy about their current supposed riggging loft arrangement, sic the FAA on them! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntacfreefly 0 #54 October 26, 2005 You supported and enabled their actions for years. Why is this any different now? Just cause you're on the other side of the table? Jumping a sinking ship doesn't suddenly make you 'the good guy' Mike. Sorry - I can't say I feel particularly sorry for you. Don't get me wrong. I'm happy that you don't associate with them anymore and maybe I'm being overly harsh but you're going have to prove to me that your intentions were more honorable than financial - after all you were happy to take peoples money (and a paycheck) for years until it began to affect YOUR bottom dollar. For now, I'll remain the skeptic I am but I do hope that I'm proven wrong.To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. ~ Lao-Tzu It's all good, they're my brothers ~ Mariann Kramer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #55 October 26, 2005 he took a fairly large paycut ian. all the staff rigs, and the dropzone rigs were on his rotation. if you have ever been there you would see that those alone would keep you busy for a month. plus he didnt pay rent for his loft wich he is doing now. and to top it all off, he was the dz manager.. he left because of stress, not money. regardless of what he tells YOU. taking things you have HEARD and judging someone you dont know, makes one judgmental. you will meet mike this weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chutingstar 1 #56 October 26, 2005 QuoteYou supported and enabled their actions for years. Why is this any different now? Just cause you're on the other side of the table? Jumping a sinking ship doesn't suddenly make you 'the good guy' Mike. Sorry - I can't say I feel particularly sorry for you. Don't get me wrong. I'm happy that you don't associate with them anymore and maybe I'm being overly harsh but you're going have to prove to me that your intentions were more honorable than financial - after all you were happy to take peoples money (and a paycheck) for years until it began to affect YOUR bottom dollar. For now, I'll remain the skeptic I am but I do hope that I'm proven wrong. I don't want any sympathy...and a lot of people would tell you today that I'm not a 'good guy.' But whatever...I was just passing along what I found today...no worries. It's more funny to me than anything else as far as how they've pirated my web site of sorts... MikeChutingStar.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
namgrunt 0 #57 October 26, 2005 QuoteYou supported and enabled their actions for years. Why is this any different now? Just cause you're on the other side of the table? Jumping a sinking ship doesn't suddenly make you 'the good guy' Mike. Sorry - I can't say I feel particularly sorry for you. Don't get me wrong. I'm happy that you don't associate with them anymore and maybe I'm being overly harsh but you're going have to prove to me that your intentions were more honorable than financial - after all you were happy to take peoples money (and a paycheck) for years until it began to affect YOUR bottom dollar. For now, I'll remain the skeptic I am but I do hope that I'm proven wrong. ................................................................... I can only speek for myself in years past I did things I now wish I had not done. I associated with people I now wish I had not we grow and change with age..at lease most do judge me for how I act now ,what i am now who I am now not please what I once was Mike did a demo jump for preston fords funeral and jumped out of gregs aircraft..at a time when he could have gotten much greaf from ASC and did not charge a dime judge him for what he is now not what he once was ..59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI) www.dzmemories.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #58 October 26, 2005 QuoteYou supported and enabled their actions for years. Why is this any different now? Just cause you're on the other side of the table? Jumping a sinking ship doesn't suddenly make you 'the good guy' Mike. Sorry - I can't say I feel particularly sorry for you. Don't get me wrong. I'm happy that you don't associate with them anymore and maybe I'm being overly harsh but you're going have to prove to me that your intentions were more honorable than financial - after all you were happy to take peoples money (and a paycheck) for years until it began to affect YOUR bottom dollar. For now, I'll remain the skeptic I am but I do hope that I'm proven wrong. I am sure a lot of people are thinking the same thing. At the end of the day. mike has 100's of grey hairs due to all this stress....lol I don't think ASC is a sinking ship as of yet its just heading towards the iceberg. i'd rather be poor than stressed out. maybe it took him longer than it should of but so what he did it and that is all that matters....BTW its not just him we have plenty of people defecting from ASC. I've never jumped there but from what i can see the landing area sucks.........I mean really suckshttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoudDan 0 #59 October 27, 2005 Learn to fly that fuckin' kite o' yours and you might could land there. In all reality the landing area is not that bad, far from the worst or tightest I've ever landed at. That said it ain't no 55 acre field either. Coming soon to a bowl of Wheaties near you!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teason 0 #60 October 27, 2005 Trust me, it could be worse I'd be insulted that they only stole text!I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #61 October 27, 2005 Mike, just as an aside I got a link request from their web-designer/plagiarist? - and he even emailed me from a 1800skride email address! When I, very politely, told him I would rather go blind than have anything to do with a "Ben and Jerry" operation, he apologized and claimed that he was the "new guy" and knew nothing of their practices - I (again politely) suggested that he might want to do some research before putting his name on any site over there....... I wish they'd go down, I didn't want to have to renew the 1800skyrider.com url for another year Pete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C.SpenceFLY 0 #62 October 27, 2005 Everyone you ever talk to from there claims to be new or know nothing about what is going on.Hell I've heard Ben claim the same thing,while he is avoiding eye contact, looking at his feet.I wonder if he knows he is doing this or if it is just part of the act? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #63 October 27, 2005 See you at Thomaston for an accuracy comphttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #64 October 27, 2005 Congrats on the move.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 0 #65 October 27, 2005 Quote Maybe it took him longer than it should of but so what he did it and that is all that matters.... So by this logic, if Ben and Cary suddenly realize what they've been doing all this time is wrong and stop doing it we should consider them "good guys" for relizing they were profitting off of their deception, because whatever Mike is currently doing in his Honest Living situation, anything he gave up was part of the deception of B&C and he knew it. He did not just realize a couple of months ago that they were unethical, but he happily repacked all the tandem and student rigs and cashed all the B&C checks that thier deception provided him with. Just my opinion, Mark Klingelhoefer edited for clarification Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hans 0 #66 October 27, 2005 Then cast your stone at me to. I worked for them since the day it all started. I watched and helped spread the word about skyride. Then they took it to a new level and I smartened up and left. If I was in Mike's spot I may have stayed longer. Everyone who has ever jumped there has supported them. The Farm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #67 October 27, 2005 i was there for as long as hans was also. so i guess im guilty also... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #68 October 27, 2005 Quotei was there for as long as hans was also. so i guess im guilty also... I think "Guilt" is the Key word here... the three of you seem to have honest to goodness guilt about having been assoicated with them... That's a good thing. edited to add: I know I'll look forward to visiting mike at his new loft whenever I get the chance to go to GA... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoudDan 0 #69 October 28, 2005 You're on bitch . Be there tomorrowish. Coming soon to a bowl of Wheaties near you!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
