kosanke 0 #1 March 24, 2006 Today, Friday, at SKYDIVE MONTEREY BAY I was denied access. Tandems were being loaded and I was informed of a NEW POLICY. Up Jumpers are not allowed to jump during the weekdays. Come back on the Weekend. WEEKENDS ONLY for up jumpers. That's right. go through their AFF, spend thousands there to get your license, buy an eclipse rig, then you are not welcomed during the week. TANDEMS ONLY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #2 March 24, 2006 Fuck those guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #3 March 24, 2006 It is my understanding that when Jerry Rouilliard (sp?) ran a dz in Dallas, TX; that when you reached a 100 jumps he gave you a list of the nearest dz's as you were not jumping at his operation anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #4 March 24, 2006 Well at least they're clear on where they stand, unlike the DZOs that pay lip service to upjumpers then bump them off loads all weekend. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #5 March 24, 2006 Is it Greg's place now?My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosanke 0 #6 March 24, 2006 also a DZ that is no longer in business ( outside Las Vegas) had a policy that if you did'nt go through his AFF course, don't bother even showing up. I guess people took him up on the offer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #7 March 24, 2006 Jump at Hollister. They do a nice job balancing tandems and upjumpers. I've never been bumped for a tandem.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosanke 0 #8 March 24, 2006 Yes. I just spoke with the DZO and was told the new policy is to have tandems during the week and no up jumpers. he ha syet to post a sign. during the weekend, they will fit you in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosanke 0 #9 March 24, 2006 been there. love the people and yes they do work to meet everyone's needs. I'll be there this weekend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #10 March 24, 2006 Well, I suspected that would happen. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and sure enough, he's the reason some people are bitter against skydiving. Go to Hollister. It's less busy during the week but you will never get that treatment. Also, take a trip to Bryon, or Skydance, or Lodi. You won't get that type of treatment there either. If you're traveling up from Paso, then it's certainly a hike to get denied. I'm sorry to hear that happened to you. Change your profile so Monterey isn't your home DZ because it isn't. If you are not staff, it's not your home.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymiles 3 #11 March 24, 2006 QuoteToday, Friday, at SKYDIVE MONTEREY BAY I was denied access. Tandems were being loaded and I was informed of a NEW POLICY. Up Jumpers are not allowed to jump during the weekdays. Come back on the Weekend. WEEKENDS ONLY for up jumpers. That's right. go through their AFF, spend thousands there to get your license, buy an eclipse rig, then you are not welcomed during the week. TANDEMS ONLY If I were you, I wouldn't jump there on weekends either. Phil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosanke 0 #12 March 24, 2006 Correct. I felt like it was my home. Just disappointed with the new policy. USPA should not be concerned about having government officials deny airport access, our fellow skydivers are doing that to us in the name of business. Famous words from the GODFATHER. TELL MICHAEL, IT WAS JUST BUSINESS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosanke 0 #13 March 25, 2006 HOLLISTER gets another dissatisfied MONTEREY BAY customer. That's ok. maybe we should start a group. HI, my name is______, and I'm here because. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #14 March 25, 2006 That whole getting kicked of the airport thing has been stirring since day 1. I don't really believe there is an issue on that airport otherwise they'd have been kicked off long ago. It’s a fact that people will land off, get hurt and even killed. All those things have occurred and nothing came of it. There are way too many stories and I’m not going to tell them here. Good luck.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosanke 0 #15 March 25, 2006 I hope that I'm not misunderstood. Monterey bay is a great DZ. Safe, fun and great views. It's just that the new owners have made a business decision to support tandems and to turn their backs on upjumpers. at least during the week. something that is happening too often. just disappointed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brianfry713 0 #16 March 25, 2006 They've got a fancy new website now too. I like the part about the view during the ride to altitude included at no extra charge . Of course if they're flying Greg's King Air, there's less than 6 minutes to enjoy that view while ascending to 15k. You probably have more time to admire the bay after you exit the plane. www.skydivemontereybay.com Experienced flyers: Coming events: There are no planned events at this time I guess like any DZ, I should call before the next time I head out there again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosanke 0 #17 March 25, 2006 just remember, as an upjumper, you won't be able to board the aircraft during the week. tandems only. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tgoaffi 0 #18 March 25, 2006 Tom, sorry to hear about SMB. send me an email..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tgoaffi 0 #19 March 25, 2006 were there any slots available on the tandem loads, or just a new blanket policy????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #20 March 25, 2006 QuoteI hope that I'm not misunderstood. Monterey bay is a great DZ. Safe, fun and great views. It's just that the new owners have made a business decision to support tandems and to turn their backs on upjumpers. at least during the week. something that is happening too often. just disappointed. Well, it was already leaning way in that direction before the recent owner change. Now it's just been formalized. Guess it saves me the trouble of stopping in. I didn't take issue with the AFF instruction I got there, but I would have driven far fewer miles, and taken less time, had I done it at Hollister. (I had only intended to do one AFF as part of a tandem party, and I had already been to Holilster, so we picked SMB. ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #21 March 25, 2006 do they have a lot of weekday traffic? I never got that sense...seemed like the 206 was used for weekdays more often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #22 March 25, 2006 If they have so many jumpers that they are turning them away, they should buy another friggen plane. I know DZO's don't make a whole lot on experienced jumpers, but they aren't losing money either. Or they wouldn't be in business at all. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosanke 0 #23 March 25, 2006 no. most times they only have enough to fill a cessna. again, if the cessna flys, no upjumpers allowed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 March 25, 2006 QuoteWell at least they're clear on where they stand, unlike the DZOs that pay lip service to upjumpers then bump them off loads all weekend. OMG.. do you mean tht actually happens to some people... WOW... I remember one DZO who told me he did not give a shit about upjumpers because he could not make any money off of them, unless they were working for him. Greed is such an ugly thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosanke 0 #25 March 25, 2006 there was a slot available. I was told by greg that it cost 25 bucks to take an upjumper to 10 grand. I indicated i was willing to do a hop and pop. no deal. tandems only. the aircraft left with space available. end of story. he said come back tomorrow. weekends only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites