teason 0 #1 November 3, 2006 This Tandem Canopy just showed up on E-bay. The buyer found it in a tree and judging by the looks of it it is a brand new canopy off of a sigma tandem. there is a DZO who is out $3600 AU and I'm worried it'll be sold as a car cover. If you know of a DZ that losta main, let them know about this! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140047440052&fromMakeTrack=trueI would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #2 November 3, 2006 It's not on the APF Stolen Gear List, but I've emailed the APF Office and posted to skysurfer.com.au. Thanks for pointing this out edit: I've identified it. It was chopped at Warnervale in July. The DZ has been contacted and are on the case. You're a star mate. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 3 #3 November 3, 2006 Good looking out. I am curious, on one of the pictures, it says that it is a double Brake system... I've never heard of that before, I'm guessing it is just for tandems. can someone please explain the double brake system, or point out a link where it is already discussed. thanks!CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowpull 0 #4 November 3, 2006 that is a tandem canopy from a Sigma system. On one of the pics there is a Sigma disk visible. I promise SOMEONE wants this canopy back Ralph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxim 0 #5 November 3, 2006 pretty sure tandem canopies have 2 toggles on each side.. they normally use the main ones just for steering and flying around and use the second set for flaring. something about using all of them the whole time would make your arms to tired. i could be completly wrong though =) A good thing would be to ask the buyer what area he lives in for "shipping purposes" there is not to many DZ's in australia and none close togeather if he found it near his house you could narrow it down to the dropzone straight away. Life is Great. Even Greater what we do with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #6 November 3, 2006 QuoteI am curious, on one of the pictures, it says that it is a double Brake system... I've never heard of that before, I'm guessing it is just for tandems. can someone please explain the double brake system, or point out a link where it is already discussed. thanks! Maxim already answered it, but RTFM (page 4) July is in the middle of Southern hemisphere winter but how long was this canopy exposed for?Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 100 #7 November 3, 2006 The seller doesn't seem to have made much of an effort to find the owners. The canopy wouldn't travel very far when it was chopped, and wherever it was found must be close to the DZ... and there aren't that many DZ's in Australia.... Keeping the canopy and then putting it up for sale comes pretty close to theft in my book...whatever happened to handing it in to the local cop shop.... I reckon the seller is, at the very least, dishonest....My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris-Ottawa 0 #8 November 3, 2006 I think you're right. Maybe it has to do with an "Angry Farmer Joe" who doesn't like them jumping near his house. I highly dount that if he brought it to a DZ that they would say it's a student canopy? BS. I knew right away when I saw the drogue and the fact that it has double brakes and the label says "Tandem" Either way, I hope they get it back."When once you have tasted flight..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxim 0 #9 November 3, 2006 chopped in july. Unless it was found soon after the chop and then held all this time, it would be in bad condition sitting in a tree for 4 months Life is Great. Even Greater what we do with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #10 November 3, 2006 QuoteMaybe it has to do with an "Angry Farmer Joe" who doesn't like them jumping near his house. Hey, buddy! The correct skydiving term is Farmer McNasty. Get your terminology straight! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #11 November 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteMaybe it has to do with an "Angry Farmer Joe" who doesn't like them jumping near his house. Hey, buddy! The correct skydiving term is Farmer McNasty. Get your terminology straight! not in OZ it's not, get your geography straightYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USPA 0 #12 November 5, 2006 biding has ended, curious what happens/happend? Over here buying or selling it would be a crime.The trouble with skydiving; If you stink at it and continue to jump, you'll die. If you're good at it and continue to jump, you'll see a lot of friends die... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #13 November 5, 2006 He hacked it up and made a Toy Story quilt out of it!!!!! -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #14 November 6, 2006 Canopy has just been retrieved, and all is well with the world at Warnervale Say what you like, but Racer owners aren't all bad! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teason 0 #15 November 6, 2006 Also, big thanks to Martin Mirtle from Air Capital in Kansas who origionally found the E-bay posting and told me about it. I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #16 November 6, 2006 QuoteAlso, big thanks to Martin Mirtle from Air Capital in Kansas who origionally found the E-bay posting and told me about it. Well shit! There goes that ass hole reputation I've been working so hard on. I sent out an email to a "list" of dzos, and included a couple of DZs in OZ. Figured that the Australian DZs would circulate the information around. Guess the info got home, regardless of how. Apparently the Internet is good for more than soap opera discussions, and pornography after all! MartinExperience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #17 November 6, 2006 Cheers for noticing the canopy & getting the word out. In future, a note to the APF office (details at http://www.apf.asn.au) will get the word out quickest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #18 November 9, 2006 I hope I'm not stepping on any toes here, these two emails describe how this canopy came to be "lost" and how it found it's way home. This thread, and web site were instrumental. My main point is that if/when you see something suspicious like this, spread the word, you just may help to set things right. Martin (Email from Dave AKA bob.dino) I'm sure Dee can fill in the details I miss, but here's my understanding of the situation: 1- Canopy was chopped in July. 2- Canopy is taken by passer-by within 20min. Warnervale had teams of searchers and the aircraft out looking for it for a week. 3- The canopy is reported stolen and a police report is filed. 4- Several months later, the seller figures they can make some quick money, and places an ad saying they found the canopy in Sept. 5- Due to Troy's vigilance and the magic of the internet, Warnervale and Dee are notified of the sale. 6- Contact is made with the seller who professes to have tried returning the canopy. Which is deeply unlikely, as Warnervale is the only DZ within about 100km, and *everyone* at the airport knew about the lost canopy. Additionally, the canopy has suffered no UV damage, so it has been stored inside since shortly after being chopped. 7- Seller quickly shuts up and returns the canopy as the prospect of a police investigation and possible criminal conviction looms. After all, they're attempting to sell stolen goods. 8- A grateful Dee relaxes :-) later, dave. (Email from Dee DZO) Dave’s version is pretty spot on When I spoke to the seller she said her husband had found it in a tree at Warnervale but was unaware there was any skydiving at the airport. Had they even gone to the airport at least would have been a fundamental start. I think he is a truck driver and is in and out of the industrial area (where the canopy was found) all the time and would have certainly seen canopies there on many occasions, as it is our regular DZ. They said they contacted someone at an old DZ on the other side of Sydney . Had they done a search on google or opened their local telephone directory, we almost jump out of the page. They definitely did not try very hard to find the owner So think they had no intentions of returning it, only seeing what they could profit out of it on ebay. Unfortunately whilst it is stealing, it would be very difficult to prove so am forced to let it be. I am however extremely grateful to have it back, so I am glad they did try and sell it as it gave us an opportunity to get it back DeeExperience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #19 November 10, 2006 When I got looted during a natural disaster, the officer that I reported the robbery to told me that the most likely way I was going to get any of my stuff back was to travel from city to city and check out the pawnshops. Thanks to e-bay for allowing the theives to sell stolen shit right from their own home. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
