craig_b 0 #1 September 30, 2004 I'm heading for my A License and can't quite seem to get one vital part down. In the requirement for doing a Back Loop, Front Loop and Barrel Roll I seem to always get 2 out of 3 and then go unstable. I know the Proficiency Card doesn't say "Jump #" it says "Date" but I still think it is supposed to be done in one jump. Does anyone have a suggestion on the progression thru these 3 manuevers that would make it work for me? Timing, speed, technique, etc? _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #2 September 30, 2004 practice, practice, practice. also you could try varying the order in which you do them, to see if that helps. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #3 September 30, 2004 All 3 manuevers do not have to be completed on 1 jump. Try doing just the backloops with regaining good stability, and then have it signed off before moving on to the other manuevers. Don't overload yourself on the jumps, relax and enjoy them, but most of all maintain atlitude awareness and be safe. -www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertmicp 0 #4 September 30, 2004 As Im sure other will state, the whole idea is to get you "unstable" to see if you can get stable. I still have problems with each, but, I can sure exit "unstable" just fine and recover just fine. Just relax....and most of all have FUN "Also I heard the voice of the Lord saying who shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, here am I, send me." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #5 September 30, 2004 Quotethe whole idea is to get you "unstable" to see if you can get stable. Correct QuoteJust relax....and most of all have FUN How about this.... Just relax, have fun.....and most of all be safe It may keep you skydiving longer my friend. -www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertmicp 0 #6 September 30, 2004 QuoteHow about this.... Just relax, have fun.....and most of all be safe It may keep you skydiving longer my friend. - Yes, My BAD, in this day and age, we can not assume anything....BE SAFE!! "Also I heard the voice of the Lord saying who shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, here am I, send me." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
somethinelse 0 #7 September 30, 2004 Heya Craig! Have you tried them yet? I did them a few jumps ago from 12,5 while I had a coach with me video taping it all. Back Loop (easiest for me) went by really quick, I did a pause, Then, tucked up my knees, threw my head and arms forward for a front loop. Returned to Belly to earth stable... Make a motion to roll out a bed, switch arms to continue the roll when youre on your back and then your belly to earth again. I was nervous about, it too. But start to end was only a handful of seconds. Period. FAST! You'll like it! Have a coach with ya could help a lot, maybe? Check it out, they are really awesome fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craig_b 0 #8 September 30, 2004 QuoteAll 3 manuevers do not have to be completed on 1 jump. Try doing just the backloops with regaining good stability, and then have it signed off before moving on to the other manuevers. Don't overload yourself on the jumps, relax and enjoy them, but most of all maintain atlitude awareness and be safe. - Thank you so very much. I wasn't sure on the regulations as to completing on 1 jump. I can get them signed off now because between jump 16 and jump 18 I did all three beautifully. And thank you to everyone for the support. I do relax well, have fun...... and getting unstable in itself can be fun and then a nice arch, breath and it's belly to earth! :) My diving exits work great out of an Otter.... stable all the way! So for all...... BLUE SKIES!!!! _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites somethinelse 0 #9 September 30, 2004 Stable DIVING EXITS...! You're way head of me my friend! I gotta get those down yet. Plan on gettin at that this weekend.... It's all good! Blues! -LiLa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mattjw916 2 #10 September 30, 2004 don't stress... you still have to do 25 jumps to get your license anyway... so you have 7 more tries. NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craig_b 0 #11 September 30, 2004 "Make a motion to roll out a bed, switch arms to continue the roll when youre on your back and then your belly to earth again." I love that description..... I will try that one. My last roll was perfect but I need more! thank you I had video done for every one of my AFF dives. Great learning tool. _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #12 October 3, 2004 QuoteStable DIVING EXITS...! You're way head of me my friend! I gotta get those down yet. Plan on gettin at that this weekend.... It's all good! Blues! -LiLa. I never really did them till this weekend, and I've gotta say I wish I had been sooner because I think it's the easiest exit for me, I can dive out and be stable the whole exit no problem, and it's just an awsome way out :) I think I found which exit I will use for my Hop-and-Pop that I STILL need to do FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dnewcomer 0 #13 October 3, 2004 Quote......Timing, speed, technique, etc? Hey, Craig, You've got hundeds of very experienced people who can give you advice at Perris. But since you're asking, here's my $0.02: If you want to do all three maneuvers in one skydive, think of them as three separate skydives. Do one maneuver, then take your time getting stable. Second maneuver.....get stable. Then last. Be sure you're stable before you go on to the next maneuver. You should have plenty of time to do this from 13,000'. The most difficult of these IMO is the barrel roll, so you might be better off doing that one first. Practice this several times before you go up with S&TA to do the dive. Concentrate on not moving on to the next maneuver until you're completely stable. After each maneuver, while you're getting stable check your altimeter to be sure you have plenty of time to move on. Never lose altitude awareness. I'm sure you'll get this down without any problem. Have fun! Keep safe! Dave WEB SITE: www.newconthenet.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craig_b 0 #14 October 4, 2004 Thank you Dave. That was one approach I was thinking of and to somewhat clear my mind inbetween each one also. I always was able to laugh when I tried the rapid succession as the third one always sent me tumbling or into turtle. Perris is such a great place with so many experience jumpers willing to help the new jumpers. I am very fortunate as my jumpmaster/instructor for almost all my jump school lessons was Jim Wallace. I have about 3 true mentors that are watching and helping. So, one at a time, calm and stable inbetween, three SEPARATE manuevers. Thanks Again! Blue Skies Craig _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites somethinelse 0 #15 October 4, 2004 Are diving exits really smooth? I didn't really care for the poised exit, like the hanging better, but still wuffle about some side to side. SO- out of a Cessna, can you just kinda, step out and LAUNCH yourself off the plateform over the wheel? I figure the least amount of time I spend getting ready to do the exit itself, the faster and easier it'll be. At least for me anyways! Blues- LiLa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craig_b 0 #16 October 4, 2004 I'm an Otter Baby but have also jumped out of the Sky Van so I can't really comment on the Cesna. But I love the diving exit out of the otter, it is so easy for me.... first one was all over the place, head down, sideways, spinning. But once I figured it out it is my best exit. I just approach the door, put feet and body 45 degrees to the door... chest forward, grab the bar and check DZ location in a relaxed lean out, then I just let go, lean out with a bit of force, chest to the props, body out 45 degrees to long plane axis, arms out, feet out and away it takes me right into the stream. I actually feel stable right on exit but hang with it until I feel what I call the "soft" air, maybe 3 seconds at the most. My description is just what I feel now, have an instructor go over it with you and adjust for YOU. ____________________________________________ _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #17 October 4, 2004 QuoteI'm an Otter Baby but have also jumped out of the Sky Van so I can't really comment on the Cesna. But I love the diving exit out of the otter, it is so easy for me.... first one was all over the place, head down, sideways, spinning. But once I figured it out it is my best exit. I just approach the door, put feet and body 45 degrees to the door... chest forward, grab the bar and check DZ location in a relaxed lean out, then I just let go, lean out with a bit of force, chest to the props, body out 45 degrees to long plane axis, arms out, feet out and away it takes me right into the stream. I actually feel stable right on exit but hang with it until I feel what I call the "soft" air, maybe 3 seconds at the most. My description is just what I feel now, have an instructor go over it with you and adjust for YOU. ____________________________________________ The diving exit I think I like best (out of the otter) is facing the rear of the plane and diving almost head down, feet back arms out.. I seem to be stable immediately on this exit. The exits that I'm facing the wind stream seem to be less stable to me. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites robertmicp 0 #18 October 4, 2004 Quote SO- out of a Cessna, can you just kinda, step out and LAUNCH yourself off the plateform over the wheel? On a Cessna, if the pilot will let you, climb out with feet on the wheel platform, move out as far as you can hang onto the strut, let you feet go and give a big wave and smile to the pilot and let go!!!! Caution: Talk to the pilot BEFORE doing this, if you dont, you may get a "shake" off the strut :) "Also I heard the voice of the Lord saying who shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, here am I, send me." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #19 October 4, 2004 QuoteAre diving exits really smooth? I didn't really care for the poised exit, like the hanging better, but still wuffle about some side to side. SO- out of a Cessna, can you just kinda, step out and LAUNCH yourself off the plateform over the wheel? If you launch yourself out the back of the cessna, you'll probably do a forward flip on the first time. Sounds like a leaping pushoff. But you can do the exit in a hurry. If you poise on the platform on your left foot, right foot on the front door edge, facing back and just release over that left foot, you may get the calmest diving exit. You do still need to focus on a target or you could end up with the side to side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyhighkiy 0 #20 October 5, 2004 to not flip on (forward) diving exit, put arms out and put your feet on your butt BE THE BUDDHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #21 October 5, 2004 Quoteto not flip on (forward) diving exit, put arms out and put your feet on your butt Definitely. But if you "launch" yourself out, to me that implies a pretty strong impulse and a stiffening of the legs that can contribute to a forward roll. Didn't want Lila to be too surprised by it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craig_b 0 #22 October 5, 2004 So VERY important.... don't LAUNCH..... I did that 2 times and it is head over heels!! You would really laugh at my video coming out of the skyvan with a "launched" dive exit! Good entertainment for all and I never realized I could do aerobatics!! Sure does teach you to breath and arch though! out of an otter mine comes from bending over and out while hanging on to the bar to see DZ position and then just falling into it at 45 degrees, chest to props. It is the most natural for me, really just like falling out! LOL _______________________________________________ _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #23 October 6, 2004 QuoteSo VERY important.... don't LAUNCH..... I did that 2 times and it is head over heels!! You would really laugh at my video coming out of the skyvan with a "launched" dive exit! Good entertainment for all and I never realized I could do aerobatics!! Sure does teach you to breath and arch though! You can exit faster that way though, esp out of the more awkward 182/206 doors. In time we get better at not flipping unless we want to. I think it does make for better video, though. Just not for RW work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites somethinelse 0 #24 October 6, 2004 WHY/HOW would "launching" make me flip? Could I dive off, like a swan dive, without tumbling? Ya know, with body arched, arms to side, BUT with keeping my feet on butt. Would THAT keep me stable in a diving exit??? Winds have kept me grounded lately! But continue to visualize this diving exit... Ah Autumn and the "joys" of the impending COLD! NOT! Gonna HAVE TO get in aWEEKDAY JUMP! b/c somebody must be "ordering"up these blustery weekend winds! Whoever's doing that KNOCK IT OFF! Blues! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craig_b 0 #25 October 6, 2004 My experience is only out of an Otter and a SkyVan. This is what my instructor told me, and after reviewing my videos found it to be true. For the Otter.... If you "launch" as a student you tend to bend down and jump up (at least you think you are) but you actually launch more in a head down and most likely miss the part of "chest to wind" so your momentum and then prop wash on your feet just toss you on over. For the SkyVan, similiar things happen because you tend to launch using bent knees and jumping upperwards and then the head comes down, then the wash off the back catches your legs and pushes you on over. Now..... I do have fun out of the Skyvan doing this exact thing on purpose now.... solo dive and just going head over heals out of the back..... love it and coming around to belly to ground feels really great. Anyway, keep practicing and trying new ways with little changes, listen to your instructor and if you can have somebody watch you go out and tell you what happened it helps too. I found what I THOUGHT happened was different than what DID happen! LOL Blue Skies!! ________________________________________________ _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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craig_b 0 #8 September 30, 2004 QuoteAll 3 manuevers do not have to be completed on 1 jump. Try doing just the backloops with regaining good stability, and then have it signed off before moving on to the other manuevers. Don't overload yourself on the jumps, relax and enjoy them, but most of all maintain atlitude awareness and be safe. - Thank you so very much. I wasn't sure on the regulations as to completing on 1 jump. I can get them signed off now because between jump 16 and jump 18 I did all three beautifully. And thank you to everyone for the support. I do relax well, have fun...... and getting unstable in itself can be fun and then a nice arch, breath and it's belly to earth! :) My diving exits work great out of an Otter.... stable all the way! So for all...... BLUE SKIES!!!! _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
somethinelse 0 #9 September 30, 2004 Stable DIVING EXITS...! You're way head of me my friend! I gotta get those down yet. Plan on gettin at that this weekend.... It's all good! Blues! -LiLa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #10 September 30, 2004 don't stress... you still have to do 25 jumps to get your license anyway... so you have 7 more tries. NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig_b 0 #11 September 30, 2004 "Make a motion to roll out a bed, switch arms to continue the roll when youre on your back and then your belly to earth again." I love that description..... I will try that one. My last roll was perfect but I need more! thank you I had video done for every one of my AFF dives. Great learning tool. _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #12 October 3, 2004 QuoteStable DIVING EXITS...! You're way head of me my friend! I gotta get those down yet. Plan on gettin at that this weekend.... It's all good! Blues! -LiLa. I never really did them till this weekend, and I've gotta say I wish I had been sooner because I think it's the easiest exit for me, I can dive out and be stable the whole exit no problem, and it's just an awsome way out :) I think I found which exit I will use for my Hop-and-Pop that I STILL need to do FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dnewcomer 0 #13 October 3, 2004 Quote......Timing, speed, technique, etc? Hey, Craig, You've got hundeds of very experienced people who can give you advice at Perris. But since you're asking, here's my $0.02: If you want to do all three maneuvers in one skydive, think of them as three separate skydives. Do one maneuver, then take your time getting stable. Second maneuver.....get stable. Then last. Be sure you're stable before you go on to the next maneuver. You should have plenty of time to do this from 13,000'. The most difficult of these IMO is the barrel roll, so you might be better off doing that one first. Practice this several times before you go up with S&TA to do the dive. Concentrate on not moving on to the next maneuver until you're completely stable. After each maneuver, while you're getting stable check your altimeter to be sure you have plenty of time to move on. Never lose altitude awareness. I'm sure you'll get this down without any problem. Have fun! Keep safe! Dave WEB SITE: www.newconthenet.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig_b 0 #14 October 4, 2004 Thank you Dave. That was one approach I was thinking of and to somewhat clear my mind inbetween each one also. I always was able to laugh when I tried the rapid succession as the third one always sent me tumbling or into turtle. Perris is such a great place with so many experience jumpers willing to help the new jumpers. I am very fortunate as my jumpmaster/instructor for almost all my jump school lessons was Jim Wallace. I have about 3 true mentors that are watching and helping. So, one at a time, calm and stable inbetween, three SEPARATE manuevers. Thanks Again! Blue Skies Craig _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
somethinelse 0 #15 October 4, 2004 Are diving exits really smooth? I didn't really care for the poised exit, like the hanging better, but still wuffle about some side to side. SO- out of a Cessna, can you just kinda, step out and LAUNCH yourself off the plateform over the wheel? I figure the least amount of time I spend getting ready to do the exit itself, the faster and easier it'll be. At least for me anyways! Blues- LiLa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig_b 0 #16 October 4, 2004 I'm an Otter Baby but have also jumped out of the Sky Van so I can't really comment on the Cesna. But I love the diving exit out of the otter, it is so easy for me.... first one was all over the place, head down, sideways, spinning. But once I figured it out it is my best exit. I just approach the door, put feet and body 45 degrees to the door... chest forward, grab the bar and check DZ location in a relaxed lean out, then I just let go, lean out with a bit of force, chest to the props, body out 45 degrees to long plane axis, arms out, feet out and away it takes me right into the stream. I actually feel stable right on exit but hang with it until I feel what I call the "soft" air, maybe 3 seconds at the most. My description is just what I feel now, have an instructor go over it with you and adjust for YOU. ____________________________________________ _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #17 October 4, 2004 QuoteI'm an Otter Baby but have also jumped out of the Sky Van so I can't really comment on the Cesna. But I love the diving exit out of the otter, it is so easy for me.... first one was all over the place, head down, sideways, spinning. But once I figured it out it is my best exit. I just approach the door, put feet and body 45 degrees to the door... chest forward, grab the bar and check DZ location in a relaxed lean out, then I just let go, lean out with a bit of force, chest to the props, body out 45 degrees to long plane axis, arms out, feet out and away it takes me right into the stream. I actually feel stable right on exit but hang with it until I feel what I call the "soft" air, maybe 3 seconds at the most. My description is just what I feel now, have an instructor go over it with you and adjust for YOU. ____________________________________________ The diving exit I think I like best (out of the otter) is facing the rear of the plane and diving almost head down, feet back arms out.. I seem to be stable immediately on this exit. The exits that I'm facing the wind stream seem to be less stable to me. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertmicp 0 #18 October 4, 2004 Quote SO- out of a Cessna, can you just kinda, step out and LAUNCH yourself off the plateform over the wheel? On a Cessna, if the pilot will let you, climb out with feet on the wheel platform, move out as far as you can hang onto the strut, let you feet go and give a big wave and smile to the pilot and let go!!!! Caution: Talk to the pilot BEFORE doing this, if you dont, you may get a "shake" off the strut :) "Also I heard the voice of the Lord saying who shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, here am I, send me." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #19 October 4, 2004 QuoteAre diving exits really smooth? I didn't really care for the poised exit, like the hanging better, but still wuffle about some side to side. SO- out of a Cessna, can you just kinda, step out and LAUNCH yourself off the plateform over the wheel? If you launch yourself out the back of the cessna, you'll probably do a forward flip on the first time. Sounds like a leaping pushoff. But you can do the exit in a hurry. If you poise on the platform on your left foot, right foot on the front door edge, facing back and just release over that left foot, you may get the calmest diving exit. You do still need to focus on a target or you could end up with the side to side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhighkiy 0 #20 October 5, 2004 to not flip on (forward) diving exit, put arms out and put your feet on your butt BE THE BUDDHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #21 October 5, 2004 Quoteto not flip on (forward) diving exit, put arms out and put your feet on your butt Definitely. But if you "launch" yourself out, to me that implies a pretty strong impulse and a stiffening of the legs that can contribute to a forward roll. Didn't want Lila to be too surprised by it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craig_b 0 #22 October 5, 2004 So VERY important.... don't LAUNCH..... I did that 2 times and it is head over heels!! You would really laugh at my video coming out of the skyvan with a "launched" dive exit! Good entertainment for all and I never realized I could do aerobatics!! Sure does teach you to breath and arch though! out of an otter mine comes from bending over and out while hanging on to the bar to see DZ position and then just falling into it at 45 degrees, chest to props. It is the most natural for me, really just like falling out! LOL _______________________________________________ _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #23 October 6, 2004 QuoteSo VERY important.... don't LAUNCH..... I did that 2 times and it is head over heels!! You would really laugh at my video coming out of the skyvan with a "launched" dive exit! Good entertainment for all and I never realized I could do aerobatics!! Sure does teach you to breath and arch though! You can exit faster that way though, esp out of the more awkward 182/206 doors. In time we get better at not flipping unless we want to. I think it does make for better video, though. Just not for RW work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
somethinelse 0 #24 October 6, 2004 WHY/HOW would "launching" make me flip? Could I dive off, like a swan dive, without tumbling? Ya know, with body arched, arms to side, BUT with keeping my feet on butt. Would THAT keep me stable in a diving exit??? Winds have kept me grounded lately! But continue to visualize this diving exit... Ah Autumn and the "joys" of the impending COLD! NOT! Gonna HAVE TO get in aWEEKDAY JUMP! b/c somebody must be "ordering"up these blustery weekend winds! Whoever's doing that KNOCK IT OFF! Blues! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craig_b 0 #25 October 6, 2004 My experience is only out of an Otter and a SkyVan. This is what my instructor told me, and after reviewing my videos found it to be true. For the Otter.... If you "launch" as a student you tend to bend down and jump up (at least you think you are) but you actually launch more in a head down and most likely miss the part of "chest to wind" so your momentum and then prop wash on your feet just toss you on over. For the SkyVan, similiar things happen because you tend to launch using bent knees and jumping upperwards and then the head comes down, then the wash off the back catches your legs and pushes you on over. Now..... I do have fun out of the Skyvan doing this exact thing on purpose now.... solo dive and just going head over heals out of the back..... love it and coming around to belly to ground feels really great. Anyway, keep practicing and trying new ways with little changes, listen to your instructor and if you can have somebody watch you go out and tell you what happened it helps too. I found what I THOUGHT happened was different than what DID happen! LOL Blue Skies!! ________________________________________________ _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
craig_b 0 #25 October 6, 2004 My experience is only out of an Otter and a SkyVan. This is what my instructor told me, and after reviewing my videos found it to be true. For the Otter.... If you "launch" as a student you tend to bend down and jump up (at least you think you are) but you actually launch more in a head down and most likely miss the part of "chest to wind" so your momentum and then prop wash on your feet just toss you on over. For the SkyVan, similiar things happen because you tend to launch using bent knees and jumping upperwards and then the head comes down, then the wash off the back catches your legs and pushes you on over. Now..... I do have fun out of the Skyvan doing this exact thing on purpose now.... solo dive and just going head over heals out of the back..... love it and coming around to belly to ground feels really great. Anyway, keep practicing and trying new ways with little changes, listen to your instructor and if you can have somebody watch you go out and tell you what happened it helps too. I found what I THOUGHT happened was different than what DID happen! LOL Blue Skies!! ________________________________________________ _________________________________________ once you've experienced flight, you forever walk the ground with your head pointed skyward. There you've been and there you long to return. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
