FlySky7 0 #1 April 4, 2012 Hello everyone, As some of you may have seen in my earlier post, I was torn between a few DZs for my training. I have narrowed it down to two and would like to know which package you all recommend from the following DZs available packages. This is the Link... http://www.skydivemiami.com/site/pop-ups/gravitypacks.aspx I am Unsure As To how to post the link and I apologize For Making it more Difficult. I do not know much about the trainings and it is difficult to get info over the phone without speaking to an instructor. Your responses are greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance. [http://www.skydivemiami.com/site/pop-ups/gravitypacks.aspx] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 38 #3 April 4, 2012 Quotemine Naughty boy!lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlySky7 0 #4 April 4, 2012 I set my self up for that one....Haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #5 April 4, 2012 Straight AFFYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #6 April 4, 2012 Quote Hello everyone, As some of you may have seen in my earlier post, I was torn between a few DZs for my training. I have narrowed it down to two and would like to know which package you all recommend from the following DZs available packages. This is the Link... http://www.skydivemiami.com/site/pop-ups/gravitypacks.aspx I am Unsure As To how to post the link and I apologize For Making it more Difficult. I do not know much about the trainings and it is difficult to get info over the phone without speaking to an instructor. Your responses are greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance. http://www.skydivemiami.com/site/pop-ups/gravitypacks.aspx ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlySky7 0 #7 April 4, 2012 Thank you for the straight AFF suggestion...may I know your reason behind it? Will tandems help me on my own? My first tandem included a left and right turn....that was it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #8 April 5, 2012 Quote Thank you for the straight AFF suggestion...may I know your reason behind it? Will tandems help me on my own? My first tandem included a left and right turn....that was it. You have done a tandem so no need for an orientation tandem. and unless you are a complete Gumby, you wont need 3 tandems. AFF will give you better bang for you buck, and your AFF 1 will hopefully blow your mindYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #9 April 5, 2012 QuoteThank you for the straight AFF suggestion...may I know your reason behind it? Will tandems help me on my own? My first tandem included a left and right turn....that was it. You realize he just made the links clicky for you, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #10 April 5, 2012 Quote Quote Thank you for the straight AFF suggestion...may I know your reason behind it? Will tandems help me on my own? My first tandem included a left and right turn....that was it. You realize he just made the links clicky for you, right? he was referring to my post, Johnny. Let it your package go and pay better attentionYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 38 #11 April 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Thank you for the straight AFF suggestion...may I know your reason behind it? Will tandems help me on my own? My first tandem included a left and right turn....that was it. You realize he just made the links clicky for you, right? he was referring to my post, Johnny. Let it your package go and pay better attention Well, you did make the straight comment lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #12 April 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Thank you for the straight AFF suggestion...may I know your reason behind it? Will tandems help me on my own? My first tandem included a left and right turn....that was it. You realize he just made the links clicky for you, right? he was referring to my post, Johnny. Let it your package go and pay better attention Well, you did make the straight comment What was the original post about again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 38 #13 April 5, 2012 Sorry, you came here for genuine info, all you have received is a bunch of crazy. Welcome to the skydiving world! We're not known for our maturity. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #14 April 5, 2012 Yea, sorry FlySky7. I love this package. Skydive Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #15 April 5, 2012 Quote Quote Thank you for the straight AFF suggestion...may I know your reason behind it? Will tandems help me on my own? My first tandem included a left and right turn....that was it. You have done a tandem so no need for an orientation tandem. and unless you are a complete Gumby, you wont need 3 tandems. AFF will give you better bang for you buck, and your AFF 1 will hopefully blow your mind Thanks for the Gumby thing. I started at skydive Miami with their IAF program. Here I am 10 years and 1860 jumps, tandem master and rigger ticket later. Don't know if I would have continued without their tandem progressionscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlySky7 0 #16 April 5, 2012 Thank you to all whom have replied. I greatly appreciate your feedback. Yes, I have been told that AFF is faster and it will save money I just feel as if I will feel a lot more comfortable after making A few jumps with someone. By all means, I feel that I will be able to complete the AFF but I am trying to play this safe and get as much practice as possible before going solo. For all I know, I try it once and choose to go straight to AFF but I rather do it this way and feel more comfortable Also, thank you for pointing out that my sites were made into links. Thank you for that (airtwardo). I really appreciate it. To the ones that wrote things that had nothing to do with this, I appreciate your participation in my thread. I know I set my self up for it. The link, was not appreciated. I am glad that You all have a sense of humor and that's great. Thanks for not making this so serious... Also, what are your opinions regarding altimeters, goggles, or anything that a "newbie" may need. Once again, thank you to all. God Bless You Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #17 April 5, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Thank you for the straight AFF suggestion...may I know your reason behind it? Will tandems help me on my own? My first tandem included a left and right turn....that was it. You have done a tandem so no need for an orientation tandem. and unless you are a complete Gumby, you wont need 3 tandems. AFF will give you better bang for you buck, and your AFF 1 will hopefully blow your mind Thanks for the Gumby thing. No Probs you rubbery green man youYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #18 April 5, 2012 Score another one for direct to AFF BUT...as you indicated, do what makes YOU the most comfortable, yes. As far as equipment, everything you need will be provided during your training progression. You will only need to buy your own after you graduate to self-supervision and even then, most DZs include everything in the gear rental. The recommendation is to buy your own goggles and altimeter and helmet after graduation and then start thinking about jumpsuits and rigs later. You'll want to get out from under the gear rental expenses as soon as you can so that you can apply that money to jumps instead of rental. Good luck on your training!My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #19 April 5, 2012 Whatever you do, don't ever give up. This sport is amazing and many of us didn't know if we were going to make it. Oh and there is no God. The sooner you realize that and become the God of your own religion, the sooner you will start thinking for yourself and truly be free. Sky bless you too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #20 April 5, 2012 Quote Whatever you do, don't ever give up. This sport is amazing and many of us didn't know if we were going to make it. Oh and there is no God. The sooner you realize that and become the God of your own religion, the sooner you will start thinking for yourself and truly be free. Sky bless you too. Wow, that's a lot of advice in just one post. How ya doin', Cheese? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #21 April 5, 2012 Quote Yes, I have been told that AFF is faster and it will save money I just feel as if I will feel a lot more comfortable after making A few jumps with someone. Keep in mind, during AFF you will have 2 fully qualified Instructors hanging onto you and giving you directions. Will that ease your mind? So, I would go with AFF. Oh, and... Welcome to our playground! Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ufk22 32 #22 April 5, 2012 There is no one best way to become a skydiver. Remember, just like in most things, most people will think that the way they learned is the best. A tandem progression will make you more comfortable by the time you do AFF, but is more expensive. AFF is the fastest way to develope freefall skills, but each jump will require you to master a number of new skills, so can be more frustrating to some. Static line gives the slowest Freefall progression, but is cheapest, provides less sensory overload, and will probably make you the best canopy pilot when you get off student status. Know yourself well enough to know how you like to aquire new skills. There is no one right answer.This is the paradox of skydiving. We do something very dangerous, expose ourselves to a totally unnecesary risk, and then spend our time trying to make it safer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rss_v 0 #23 April 5, 2012 QuoteThere is no one best way to become a skydiver. Remember, just like in most things, most people will think that the way they learned is the best. A tandem progression will make you more comfortable by the time you do AFF, but is more expensive. AFF is the fastest way to develope freefall skills, but each jump will require you to master a number of new skills, so can be more frustrating to some. Static line gives the slowest Freefall progression, but is cheapest, provides less sensory overload, and will probably make you the best canopy pilot when you get off student status. Know yourself well enough to know how you like to aquire new skills. There is no one right answer. OP - I'm a novice and part way through my AFF. There are surely pros and cons to each method of learning, as described above. I recommend thinking about your usual approach to learning new skills, especially physical skills, and consider what rate of progression might be appropriate for you. AFF is very fast and intense and each level is a real step forward. It exposes you to more, sooner. But that doesn't mean you will learn more, sooner. In fact the opposite can happen, if each jump is too much for you to take in. Think of absolutely any skill or new hobby and you will notice that there's an optimum level of training/practice (varying between people), and if you go slower than that you'll progress sub-optimally (not so bad), and if you try to go faster then you basically crash and burn. Hopefully not literally, in this case. My first 3 AFF jumps I have NO memory of at all. Right after the jump, I couldn't remember a thing. They were too intense for me to learn very much from - say each AFF level was throwing 100 units of experience at me, and I was only absorbing 10 units. I think I would have benefited more from a slower progression, personally. I haven't had any tunnel time myself yet but consider adding that as an option, e.g. AFF + tunnel time - by all accounts that helps a great deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rss_v 0 #24 April 5, 2012 Oh and don't worry about equipment yet, your DZ will provide it and instruct you on its use. It's best that you use what they give you for now, since it may be tailored towards their teaching program and they will be familiar with it. I intend to buy my own gloves soon because the DZ ones are fucking disgusting, perhaps goggles while I'm at it. But wait until you've got started. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlySky7 0 #25 April 6, 2012 Good evening, Upon further review, posts, and speaking with someone while in Sebastian, I have decided to go ahead with the IAF training. I thank everyone who has given me the proper feedback. I greatly appreciate it. I will definitely buy my own goggles, gloves and altimeter. If I am allowed to purchase my own helmet for training I will do so. I am not fond of having to share helmets with countless students. I thank cocheese for his advice and I am glad that every one pushed on and made it. On behalf of your response to God, there was no need for you to go off rambling about God not existing. I have my reasons for believing and will continue to stand in my faith. As it is, I think for myself and those around me with out a problem. For the record, I am free thanks to Jesus Christ. If someone does not agree with me and my being, I am okay with that. I came here to seek help for sky diving, not my beliefs. I understand that in AFF I will have two instructors, I just believe that with a tandem there is immediate feedback from the instructor. Even if I take a few days, I am okay with it as I want to be as prepared as possible without overloading my self. How soon may I finish this training if I have the time to jump daily? Thank you all and God Bless Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
