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Star991

What High Performance Canopy Should I Get?

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So I have around 500 jumps and want to buy a 135 canopy (1.05 wing load). I have researched different designs and think I prefer cross braced, besides their bad openings. I don’t really understand the difference between 500IB Vectran and 750 Vectran lines. However, I have found myself looking a lot into either a 135 katana or 135 fluid wings gangster. What would you guys recommend for a good snappy canopy that can keep dives pretty well and do fast spins. Open to other suggestions for canopies. But really don’t like saber 2. Also good to state I do a lot of front riser dives atm but hate the fast recovery that takes the toggles out of my hands, but love the quick response time for doing loops or spins.

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why don't you like a sabre 2 they are a great canopy? is there a DZ with a canopy coach near by that you could get some coaching/advise from what canopy do you fly now

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Well I just have bad history with Sabre 2 and it’s terrible openings along with it’s constant line twist. Atm I love the storm 135 I rent and I’m pretty set on either a semi cross braced gangster 135 or katana135. I don’t know if u can recommend either one.

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Katana's require a lot more attention to body position during opening and can take off diving and go into line twists quite easy, Sabre 2's would be a lot less stress to deal with vs a Katana that's my experience. if you love the Storm your renting then why not buy one they are a great canopy, I cant comment on the Gangster as I haven't jumped that class of canopy but canopy's that are cross braced are generally reserved for serious swoopers with 800/1000+ jumps and much higher wing loadings.

500lbs lines would be thinner and have less drag but as a result take less weight.

I would be speaking with your local or nearest canopy coach, and sign up for canopy course.

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On ‎2‎/‎4‎/‎2020 at 9:38 AM, Star991 said:

Well I just have bad history with Sabre 2 and it’s terrible openings along with it’s constant line twist.

Terrible openings and constant line twists are not necessarily a result of the canopy type. They may also occur when the canopy hits a certain age, and especially when the lines hit a certain age. Most line types (especially microline, which is commonly found on a Sabre2) will exhibit some sort of shrink. This affects the line trim, which in turn affects (usually negatively) the openings of a canopy.

With smallish canopies (~135 and below) those effects can easily happen after only ~300 jumps on the lineset. Microline will typically still look perfectly fine at that age, so just looking at the wear & tear on the lines isn't enough to determine if the lines are still good.

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It sounds like you are seeking a canopy optimized for aerobatics, as opposed to swooping.  If so, try a Stiletto.  It's designed to be fast and extremely responsive.  Make sure you fly one that isn't tired or with a shrunken line set.  Stilettos are great canopies, still a solid design, and you can still order one brand new.  

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I fly a 120 Gangster and love it! The opening are amazing every time at terminal or sub terminal. Rears and harness turns are intuitive. If you are thinking about getting one demo it. 

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Most federations recommend 1000 jumps before flying cross-braced canopies. Besides that, loading a cross-braced at 1.05 is kind of, for lack of a better word, useless. These canopies are designed for higher winloads, without exception I would say. Loading them so lightly is probably counterproductive. The wing will be less pressurized, and that could be dangerous. To give you an example, Fluid Wings recommends the Gangster for wingloads starting at 1.5. Most other recommend 1.8 at least.

I am unsure what is the local culture at your DZ, but judging from the first post looks like the understanding of the different canopy designs and their effect on flying characteristics is a bit lacking. When in doubt, try to be conservative. It is better than been scrapped out of the ground.

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