"Crime study: Handguns, not 'assault rifles,' used in most mass shootings"

[rushmc 18]

kallend

*************** Few outside of San Francisco propose wars on cars.

Cars. Strict regulations about: brakes, steering, crashworthiness, lights, insurance, registration, testing and licensing of drivers, tires, emissions, speed limits, traffic lights, stop signs, pedestrian only zones...so now you imply weapons are not regulated???


Have you registered your guns? Did they pass the annual state inspection?



Oooooo

Can I play?

Is owning a car a right?




Wow, I've never seen goalposts moved so fast.



Well it is your game after all
Just following your lead

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,147]

Following is quite a bit easier than leading...it is understandable.

[rushmc 18]

SkyDekker

Following is quite a bit easier than leading...it is understandable.

Now we are talking about Obama supporters????

Talk about moving the goal posts

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kelpdiver 2]

kallend

*** Few outside of San Francisco propose wars on cars.

Cars. Strict regulations about: brakes, steering, crashworthiness, lights, insurance, registration, testing and licensing of drivers, tires, emissions, speed limits, traffic lights, stop signs, pedestrian only zones...

Talk about trying to move goalposts...the death rate associated with cars has not markedly changed in spite of all these aspects...the only answer is elimination!

[SkyDekker 1,147]

rushmc

***Following is quite a bit easier than leading...it is understandable.

Now we are talking about Obama supporters????

Talk about moving the goal posts

Actually, in English we call that changing the subject.

But, you are certainly a leader in the language department.

[rushmc 18]

SkyDekker

******Following is quite a bit easier than leading...it is understandable.

Now we are talking about Obama supporters????

Talk about moving the goal posts

Actually, in English we call that changing the subject.

But, you are certainly a leader in the language department.

more interested in honesty

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,435]

>Is owning a car a right?

Yes, it is.

[rushmc 18]

Your school failed you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 1,649]

rushmc

Your school failed you

Do you REALLY believe that the ONLY rights an American has are those specifically enumerated in the Constitution (as amended)?

If so, The USA is just about the most oppressed nation in the first world.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 18]

kallend

***Your school failed you

Do you REALLY believe that the ONLY rights an American has are those specifically enumerated in the Constitution (as amended)?

If so, The USA is just about the most oppressed nation in the first world.

Nope
What I believe is the Constitution limits what the gov has say over
At least that it what it is supposed to do
But you and your lib friends do not like this fact

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[davjohns 1]

billvon

>Is owning a car a right?

Yes, it is.

Sure. Property ownership has long been viewed as an inherent right of men.

If you check out the 9th amendment to the US Constitution, it says that just because a right is not enumerated therein does not mean people don't have it. There are more.

The 10th says specifically that only the authority given the feds by the Constitution is theirs. All else belongs to the States or the People. Of course, nobody seems to pay attention to that...

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[rushmc 18]

davjohns

The 10th says specifically that only the authority given the feds by the Constitution is theirs. All else belongs to the States or the People. Of course, nobody seems to pay attention to that...

+1

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 1,649]

davjohns

***>Is owning a car a right?

Yes, it is.

Sure. Property ownership has long been viewed as an inherent right of men.

If you check out the 9th amendment to the US Constitution, it says that just because a right is not enumerated therein does not mean people don't have it. There are more.

The 10th says specifically that only the authority given the feds by the Constitution is theirs. All else belongs to the States or the People. Of course, nobody seems to pay attention to that...

Some people (cough cough rushmc cough) don't even seem to understand the difference.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 1,649]

Well, HERE's a surprise:

www.southbendtribune.com/news/crime/updated-shooter-s-record-includes-martin-s-theft/article_0a236826-7ecc-11e3-a4cd-0019bb30f31a.html

Criminal records involving a young man who police say killed two people at a Martin’s Super Market in Elkhart hint of a struggle with addiction and mental illness.
According to Elkhart County court records available, Shawn Walter Bair, the 22-year-old man shot and killed by police Thursday morning at Martin’s, had two convictions on Class D Felony charges, as well as a sentence for violating his probation. The docket entries for these convictions suggests a history of drug issues and attempts at treatment.

So, mental illness and felony convictions, but apparently no difficulty whatsoever getting a gun to shoot up a grocery store/

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 18]

kallend

Well, HERE's a surprise:

www.southbendtribune.com/news/crime/updated-shooter-s-record-includes-martin-s-theft/article_0a236826-7ecc-11e3-a4cd-0019bb30f31a.html

Criminal records involving a young man who police say killed two people at a Martin’s Super Market in Elkhart hint of a struggle with addiction and mental illness.
According to Elkhart County court records available, Shawn Walter Bair, the 22-year-old man shot and killed by police Thursday morning at Martin’s, had two convictions on Class D Felony charges, as well as a sentence for violating his probation. The docket entries for these convictions suggests a history of drug issues and attempts at treatment.

So, mental illness and felony convictions, but apparently no difficulty whatsoever getting a gun to shoot up a grocery store/

So it was already illeagal for him to have a gun
Good thing those laws stopped him
Oh, but wait....


So what is your point?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 0]

davjohns

***>Is owning a car a right?

Yes, it is.

Sure. Property ownership has long been viewed as an inherent right of men.

If you check out the 9th amendment to the US Constitution, it says that just because a right is not enumerated therein does not mean people don't have it. There are more.

The 10th says specifically that only the authority given the feds by the Constitution is theirs. All else belongs to the States or the People. Of course, nobody seems to pay attention to that...

(cough cough14thamendmentcough cough)

[kallend 1,649]

rushmc

***

Well, HERE's a surprise:

www.southbendtribune.com/news/crime/updated-shooter-s-record-includes-martin-s-theft/article_0a236826-7ecc-11e3-a4cd-0019bb30f31a.html

Criminal records involving a young man who police say killed two people at a Martin’s Super Market in Elkhart hint of a struggle with addiction and mental illness.
According to Elkhart County court records available, Shawn Walter Bair, the 22-year-old man shot and killed by police Thursday morning at Martin’s, had two convictions on Class D Felony charges, as well as a sentence for violating his probation. The docket entries for these convictions suggests a history of drug issues and attempts at treatment.

So, mental illness and felony convictions, but apparently no difficulty whatsoever getting a gun to shoot up a grocery store/

So it was already illeagal for him to have a gun
Good thing those laws stopped him
Oh, but wait....


So what is your point?

The one I've made many times before but you can't grasp.

Making something illegal is of no use if that law has its enforcement mechanisms emasculated and rendered ineffective by the gun lobby.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 18]

kallend

******

Well, HERE's a surprise:

www.southbendtribune.com/news/crime/updated-shooter-s-record-includes-martin-s-theft/article_0a236826-7ecc-11e3-a4cd-0019bb30f31a.html

Criminal records involving a young man who police say killed two people at a Martin’s Super Market in Elkhart hint of a struggle with addiction and mental illness.
According to Elkhart County court records available, Shawn Walter Bair, the 22-year-old man shot and killed by police Thursday morning at Martin’s, had two convictions on Class D Felony charges, as well as a sentence for violating his probation. The docket entries for these convictions suggests a history of drug issues and attempts at treatment.

So, mental illness and felony convictions, but apparently no difficulty whatsoever getting a gun to shoot up a grocery store/

So it was already illeagal for him to have a gun
Good thing those laws stopped him
Oh, but wait....


So what is your point?

The one I've made many times before but you can't grasp.

Making something illegal is of no use if that law has its enforcement mechanisms emasculated and rendered ineffective by the gun lobby.

what is not grasped by you is the very point YOU make

Come up with a process or law, that does not make criminals out of those who constitutionaly have the right to own and carry a gun and then, only then, come back a play

but you will not. Because the one time YOU did, the ideas you presented were default bans

BTW
the gun lobby has nothing to do with this nut getting a gun
That happens in your lo lo liberal land only

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jclalor 12]

Quote

Note that the definition he uses of a mass shooting is the murder of four or more victims in a single episode. So that's at least 80 people out of a nation of 317 million. Or about one out of every 4 million people.

That's about the same percentage as voter fraud, but voter fraud seems to get some peoples panties really in a bunch. To me, The shooting of twenty five first graders at once sure seems a lot worse than fifty extra votes for a Democrat.

[kelpdiver 2]

jclalor

Quote

Note that the definition he uses of a mass shooting is the murder of four or more victims in a single episode. So that's at least 80 people out of a nation of 317 million. Or about one out of every 4 million people.

That's about the same percentage as voter fraud, but voter fraud seems to get some peoples panties really in a bunch. To me, The shooting of twenty five first graders at once sure seems a lot worse than fifty extra votes for a Democrat.

As I noted in that other thread, the GOP uses the specter of mass voter fraud to promote their agenda of stifling votes, just as gun control uses the horror of these 'ever growing' number of mass shootings to promote their agenda.

F's for both of them.

[kallend 1,649]

kelpdiver

***

Quote

Note that the definition he uses of a mass shooting is the murder of four or more victims in a single episode. So that's at least 80 people out of a nation of 317 million. Or about one out of every 4 million people.

That's about the same percentage as voter fraud, but voter fraud seems to get some peoples panties really in a bunch. To me, The shooting of twenty five first graders at once sure seems a lot worse than fifty extra votes for a Democrat.

As I noted in that other thread, the GOP uses the specter of mass voter fraud to promote their agenda of stifling votes, just as gun control uses the horror of these 'ever growing' number of mass shootings to promote their agenda.

F's for both of them.

The number of citizens shot dead in any given year is about 10 times as many as the known cases of vote fraud in every election cycle.

So clearly the GOP has its priorities backwards.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[regulator 0]

Oh please. you mean people that are actually CAUGHT at voter fraud, which is I'm sure a completely different number than those that actually participate in it.

[kallend 1,649]

regulator

Oh please. you mean people that are actually CAUGHT at voter fraud, which is I'm sure a completely different number than those that actually participate in it.

Oh please, you intend to pass laws based on your BELIEFS rather than what's actually known and proven? That sounds like Sharia Law to me.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[sfzombie13 307]

that's the same as everyone saying the unemployment rate is x, based on people receiving benefits. clearly there are persons who have exhausted the benefits before getting jobs, many more times than can be counted. who accounts for this?

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Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes

[Southern_Man 0]

sfzombie13

that's the same as everyone saying the unemployment rate is x, based on people receiving benefits. clearly there are persons who have exhausted the benefits before getting jobs, many more times than can be counted. who accounts for this?

That is not how the unemployment rate is calculated.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"