So what has the GOP achieved?

[billvon 2,400]

>Thats because they dont know!

I think most voters do.

>No other third party is on track to be a contender down the road. The Libs just keep
>getting stronger. Its only a matter of having the money to get the message out.

Hmm. Only presidential election they got even one electoral vote was in 1972; 1980 was the only year they broke 1% of the popular vote. Highest house election turnout by libertarians was 2000 (1.6%) and highest senate percentage was 2002 (1.7%.) They may be getting stronger but they have a ways to go.

(Useless fact of the day - Mike Badnarik, skydiver and former rec.skydiving bloviator, was the libertarian candidate in 2004.)

[quade 3]

The CGPGrey ones are a bit easier on the ears and better put together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wC42HgLA4k
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[SkyDekker 1,123]

Iago

You miss the point. The goal is not getting electoral voter house seats, or Senate seats.

The goal is getting 5% in a general election for president.

In 2012 they were a hair under 1%.

The greens were .36%

5% of the vote puts the Libs in the same ballpark as the D and R campaigns.

At 5% $110 MILLION in PUBLIC EARMARKED FUNDS for presidential election campaigns becomes available.

When that happens- Goodnight Irene!

I don't get it, but isn't the libertarian party all about limited government? Isn't accepting public money for their own benefit against what they stand for?

Aren't you asking people to vote for a party so the first thing they can do is go against what they supposedly stand for?

How again is this an improvement?

[Southern_Man 0]

SkyDekker

I don't get it, but isn't the libertarian party all about limited government? Isn't accepting public money for their own benefit against what they stand for?

Aren't you asking people to vote for a party so the first thing they can do is go against what they supposedly stand for?

How again is this an improvement?

Bingo!

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[ryoder 1,384]

quade

I have something I'd like you to watch. It's actually talking about the UK, but it applies to the US just as well as any other representative democracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo

There is a name for that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[SStewart 13]

kallend

It looks as though the adults in the Senate have finally decided that enough is enough.

So what will the GOP have achieved as a result of its right wing's tantrum in the House?

Among other negative "acheivements"

Onward and Upward!

[quade 3]

"I before e except after . . . "

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[billvon 2,400]

Wow, he got $1 for every job he furloughed. Not a bad racket.

[jdkalou 0]

It really isn't what the GOP achieved. Both parties showed the rest of the world that Washington DC is full of idiots.
Some food for thought, China downgraded the US credit rating this morning. All of Europe is "concerned" about the US' ability to service its debt, yet we continue to play russian roulettte with the economy.
By not actually addressing the issue of the DEBT that the US is encouring (without the economic activity/policy in place to service it) the rest of the world is preparing for a global meltdown again, which will take place when the US collapses under its own stupidity.
DC shouldn't be debating the Debt Ceiling at all, it should be addressing servicing abilities of our current debt. By DC doing just the opposite they are showing the rest of the world that we can't make our interest payments without printing more dollars.

We should all, no matter what party, be very concerned with the condition of the economy and the direction that DC is taking us...............the rest of the world is.

[RonD1120 58]

kallend

It looks as though the adults in the Senate have finally decided that enough is enough.

So what will the GOP have achieved as a result of its right wing's tantrum in the House?

Exactly what the progressive liberals intended to accomplish.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[billvon 2,400]

>Both parties showed the rest of the world that Washington DC is full of idiots.

That's definitely one outcome of all the recent games.

>DC shouldn't be debating the Debt Ceiling at all, it should be addressing servicing
>abilities of our current debt.

Agreed. Fixing the problem at the source (i.e. our spending) should be their priority. The problem is that neither party wants to touch the really big programs (social security, medicare, military) - they would rather have apocalyptic debt-ceiling battles which make for better TV (Aging veterans BANNED from their OWN MEMORIAL!)