BHO's bogus birth certificate revisited

[Stumpy 256]

I don't think it's confined to April.....

Birthers are hilarious

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[jakee 1,255]

For god knows what reason I'm actually going to try and be helpful here:

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My wife had an expired passport, HS Diploma, marriage certificates, death certificate of first husband in addition to valid FL DL. None of this was acceptable because of the discrepancy on her BC.

Wrong. None of those were acceptable because none of them are acceptable forms of primary ID. Full stop. The birth certificate had nothing to do with it.

Ron, you do realise that if she still has the expired passport in good condition she can renew it for 60 bucks and the cost of postage and a photo? And that an unexpired passport is an acceptable form of primary ID? And that you could have, and maybe still could, bypass the whole fuck up, save yourself over $900 and not involve the birth certificate in any way?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[normiss 622]

Just a few.

[normiss 622]

Oh snap - I missed the word April in your post.

[rickjump1 0]

Stumpy

I don't think it's confined to April.....

Birthers are hilarious

Actually, the original "birthers" were the Clintons. http://deadlinelive.info/2012/04/01/did-ex-prez-bill-clinton-say-obama-was-ineligible/

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[jakee 1,255]

rickjump1

***I don't think it's confined to April.....

Birthers are hilarious

Actually, the original "birthers" were the Clintons. http://deadlinelive.info/2012/04/01/did-ex-prez-bill-clinton-say-obama-was-ineligible/

Ok, yeah, that could be the case.

Or maybe, just maybe, the woman telling that story is looney-tunes, whacked out, bat-shit fucking insane.

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She claimed, however, that Bill Clinton’s intention to unequivocally state to the public that Obama was ineligible was stopped in its tracks by the murder of a close friend of the Clintons...

Viviano said a campaign staffer who was close to Hillary, whose name she requested be withheld for security reasons, told her Gwatney’s murder was a message to Bill Clinton. “I was told by this person that that was ‘Shutupsville, or you’re next,’” she said.... “And then,” Viviano said, paraphrasing the staffer, “they went in and said, ‘OK, it’s your daughter, now, we’ll go after.’

You know, maybe.

(But seriously, keep going. Everything you're saying right now is awesome!)

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rickjump1 0]

If it's not American movie stars, it's American presidents for you Brits. It must be boring living in an old museum like the UK. No wonder Aunt Hilda left

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[jakee 1,255]

It's American idiots that keep me entertained.

What do you think about the links that have been posted in response to your claims in the last few pages? Does it make you realise that everything you've posted is a regurgitated lie, or is it all just water off a ducks back?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 18]

Actually, I think that those that voted or McCain in the primaries were the low informtion uninformed voter

The rest just flowed from there

As for you

My comments are more general than specific
There are many who vote for someone based on them taking the time to learn about a candidate and then voting

Saddly those people are clearly in the minority
The majority makes decsions based on network sound bites

You believe you are not one of these people
Fine
I have no idea and we most likely just disagree

But
If this is the case, why are you allowing yourself to be insulted?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 1,625]

jakee

It's American idiots that keep me entertained.

What do you think about the links that have been posted in response to your claims in the last few pages? Does it make you realise that everything you've posted is a regurgitated lie, or is it all just water off a ducks back?

www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4539068;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[LyraM45 0]

rushmc

Actually, I think that those that voted or McCain in the primaries were the low informtion uninformed voter

The rest just flowed from there

As for you

My comments are more general than specific
There are many who vote for someone based on them taking the time to learn about a candidate and then voting

Saddly those people are clearly in the minority
The majority makes decsions based on network sound bites

You believe you are not one of these people
Fine
I have no idea and we most likely just disagree

But
If this is the case, why are you allowing yourself to be insulted?

Not that I am directly insulted and too bothered, but rather pointing out you are insulting an awful lot of people if I understood what you were saying correctly.

Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :)

[normiss 622]

I thought the same thing.

[rushmc 18]

LyraM45

***Actually, I think that those that voted or McCain in the primaries were the low informtion uninformed voter

The rest just flowed from there

As for you

My comments are more general than specific
There are many who vote for someone based on them taking the time to learn about a candidate and then voting

Saddly those people are clearly in the minority
The majority makes decsions based on network sound bites

You believe you are not one of these people
Fine
I have no idea and we most likely just disagree

But
If this is the case, why are you allowing yourself to be insulted?

Not that I am directly insulted and too bothered, but rather pointing out you are insulting an awful lot of people if I understood what you were saying correctly.

Remember, the context for this was that Palin hurt McCain
Research shows that is not the case regardless of what the media and the left say

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,255]

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Remember, the context for this was that Palin hurt McCain
Research shows that is not the case

I'd like to see that.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 18]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_presidential_candidacy_of_Sarah_Palin

Go down to the link for the 60 polls in this one
http://usconservatives.about.com/b/2012/07/17/no-sarah-palin-did-not-cost-mccain-the-presidency.htm

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/09/zogby-has-mccainpalin-pulling-ahead-and.html

this one refers to CNN exit polls
http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/08/unbiased-expert-palin-helped-mccain.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Remster 24]

So 60+% of people who voted for her thought she helped. That's awesome "research".

Remster

[rushmc 18]

Remster

So 60+% of people who voted for her thought she helped. That's awesome "research".

Read just one huh

Now THAT is awsome research

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,255]

None of that actually says what you think it says. Take the first one for instance, it's a poll of people who did actually vote for McCain/Palin when the question is about how many people were put off McCain because of Palin.

Or the Zogby one, if you check the date it was from early september 2008. 2 months before the election, 3 weeks before the Palin / Couric interviews.

The one of from conservatives4Palin I'm not going to touch for obvious reasons... Leaving the one from USConservatives saying that Palin did not cost McCain the election. I could accept that - McCain may well have lost anyway... but it still doesn't say Palin helped.

But if you do have some research which genuinely backs up the claim you're making, I'd still like to see it.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Remster 24]

rushmc

***So 60+% of people who voted for her thought she helped. That's awesome "research".

Read just one huh

Now THAT is awsome research

I read a few (3 of your links to be exact). Enough to see the BS.

Remster

[rushmc 18]

Dont be so lazy

Would you believe the Washington(com)post?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/14/AR2010101404794.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

Remster

******So 60+% of people who voted for her thought she helped. That's awesome "research".

Read just one huh

Now THAT is awsome research

I read a few (3 of your links to be exact). Enough to see the BS.

I doubt it
Many of the links use CNN exits polling
That polling shows at the very worse, Palin did not HURT McCain
It show she helped him

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,255]

rushmc

Dont be so lazy

Would you believe the Washington(com)post?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/14/AR2010101404794.html

Matthew Continetti is opinion editor of the Weekly Standard* and the author of "The Persecution of Sarah Palin: How the Elite Media Tried to Bring Down a Rising Star."

* Currently edited by founder William Kristol and Fred Barnes, the Standard has been described as a "redoubt of neoconservatism" and as "the neo-con bible". (Wiki)


I don't think it's a question of whether I believe the Washington Post...

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 18]

how about this




http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#val=USP00p6


the interesting thing about this one is, how many opinions are shown to be wrong today

Like, well, just look at it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 18]

jakee

***Dont be so lazy

Would you believe the Washington(com)post?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/14/AR2010101404794.html

Matthew Continetti is opinion editor of the Weekly Standard* and the author of "The Persecution of Sarah Palin: How the Elite Media Tried to Bring Down a Rising Star."

* Currently edited by founder William Kristol and Fred Barnes, the Standard has been described as a "redoubt of neoconservatism" and as "the neo-con bible". (Wiki)


I don't think it's a question of whether I believe the Washington Post...

The did try and bring her down
Just look back at posts on this forum and look at the viseral bs that came from those who swallowed the media bs

Now, you can cherry pick all you like
But the CNN one I just sent you shows she did not hurt McCain at worst

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[turtlespeed 212]

rushmc

******Dont be so lazy

Would you believe the Washington(com)post?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/14/AR2010101404794.html

Matthew Continetti is opinion editor of the Weekly Standard* and the author of "The Persecution of Sarah Palin: How the Elite Media Tried to Bring Down a Rising Star."

* Currently edited by founder William Kristol and Fred Barnes, the Standard has been described as a "redoubt of neoconservatism" and as "the neo-con bible". (Wiki)


I don't think it's a question of whether I believe the Washington Post...

The did try and bring her down
Just look back at posts on this forum and look at the viseral bs that came from those who swallowed the media bs

Now, you can cherry pick all you like
But the CNN one I just sent you shows she did not hurt McCain at worst

You can lead a horse to knowledge - but if it goes against their beliefs they ain't drinking it in.

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