jclalor 12 #1 October 15, 2012 So giving this vaccine to young girls does not produce a bunch of little sluts, but prevents them from dying from cancer. QuotePrevious surveys have found that some parents are concerned their daughter may be more likely to engage in sexual activity if they receive the vaccine. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/WomensHealth/hpv-vaccine-raise-risk-sexual-activity-study-finds/story?id=17467576#.UHxPTcXR5IE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #2 October 15, 2012 >So giving this vaccine to young girls does not produce a bunch of little sluts Where's the fun in that? And why publicize this during this slow economic recovery, when it is sure to negatively impact the porn industry? "HPV Prison Sluts" was sure to be a bestseller. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 October 15, 2012 QuoteSo giving this vaccine to young girls does not produce a bunch of little sluts, but prevents them from dying from cancer. This story supports the first claim, but not the second. Quote According to some experts, the effectiveness and safety of the vaccine are more concerning to many parents than whether their child will see it as a gateway to sexual activity. Still, the findings are reassuring to a smaller group of parents who may see this it as a reason to be apprehensive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #4 October 15, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteSo giving this vaccine to young girls does not produce a bunch of little sluts, but prevents them from dying from cancer. This story supports the first claim, but not the second. *** According to some experts, the effectiveness and safety of the vaccine are more concerning to many parents than whether their child will see it as a gateway to sexual activity. Still, the findings are reassuring to a smaller group of parents who may see this it as a reason to be apprehensive. Rest assured, that any parent who thought that a vaccine alone would cause their daughters to become promiscuous, will pay no attention to this study Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 268 #5 October 16, 2012 Quote Previous surveys have found that some parents are concerned their daughter may be more likely to engage in sexual activity if they receive the vaccine. Yeah, 'cause the only thing keeping girls from having sex is the fear of HPV! See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #6 October 16, 2012 HPwhat?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #7 October 16, 2012 QuoteQuoteSo giving this vaccine to young girls does not produce a bunch of little sluts, but prevents them from dying from cancer. This story supports the first claim, but not the second. Quote According to some experts, the effectiveness and safety of the vaccine are more concerning to many parents than whether their child will see it as a gateway to sexual activity. Still, the findings are reassuring to a smaller group of parents who may see this it as a reason to be apprehensive. Your quote does not support your claim. What parents are concerned about, and the actual effectiveness and safety of a vaccine, are not closely correlated.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 October 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteSo giving this vaccine to young girls does not produce a bunch of little sluts, but prevents them from dying from cancer. This story supports the first claim, but not the second. Quote According to some experts, the effectiveness and safety of the vaccine are more concerning to many parents than whether their child will see it as a gateway to sexual activity. Still, the findings are reassuring to a smaller group of parents who may see this it as a reason to be apprehensive. Your quote does not support your claim. What parents are concerned about, and the actual effectiveness and safety of a vaccine, are not closely correlated. Which is hardly different from what I said. JC talks about preventing girls from dying of cancer, but no evidence on the effectiveness of the vaccines was provided. Gardasil only vaccinates against a subset of the HPV virus variants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #9 October 17, 2012 So why did i take 4 shorts? Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #10 October 17, 2012 QuoteJC talks about preventing girls from dying of cancer, but no evidence on the effectiveness of the vaccines was provided. No evidence? That was settled long ago. QuoteTwo vaccines are available to prevent the human papillomavirus (HPV) types that cause most cervical cancers. These vaccines are bivalent vaccine (Cervarix) and quadrivalent vaccine (Gardasil). One of the HPV vaccines, Gardasil, also prevents HPV types that cause most genital warts. Gardasil also has been shown to prevent some cancers of the anus, vulva (area around the opening of the vagina), and vagina. Both vaccines are given in 3 shots over 6 months. Or perhaps you consider the CDC just another Government agency trying to poison you "precious bodily fluids" http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-vaccine-young-women.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #11 October 17, 2012 Quote QuoteJC talks about preventing girls from dying of cancer, but no evidence on the effectiveness of the vaccines was provided. No evidence? That was settled long ago. QuoteTwo vaccines are available to prevent the human papillomavirus (HPV) types that cause most cervical cancers. These vaccines are bivalent vaccine (Cervarix) and quadrivalent vaccine (Gardasil). One of the HPV vaccines, Gardasil, also prevents HPV types that cause most genital warts. Gardasil also has been shown to prevent some cancers of the anus, vulva (area around the opening of the vagina), and vagina. Both vaccines are given in 3 shots over 6 months. Or perhaps you consider the CDC just another Government agency trying to poison you "precious bodily fluids" http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-vaccine-young-women.htm You're moving the goal posts again, and missing the point. What's new? Your ABC link did not support your statement. It only talked about parental resistance. As for efficacy, we know that the vaccines only block out some of the HPV types out there, and 30% of the cancers we see are from those missing types. Given how readily it is transmitted, it's not a given that blocking out the 70% will change the bottom line of how many women get cancer. It seems logical that it would, but a person that doesn't eat beef or pork, but instead eats lamb 3 times a day can still develop heart disease. It's a question that can and should be asked, particularly in light of the recent discussion on the apparent reduced effectiveness of the whoop cough vaccine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #12 October 17, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote ***JC talks about preventing girls from dying of cancer, but no evidence on the effectiveness of the vaccines was provided. No evidence? That was settled long ago. QuoteTwo vaccines are available to prevent the human papillomavirus (HPV) types that cause most cervical cancers. These vaccines are bivalent vaccine (Cervarix) and quadrivalent vaccine (Gardasil). One of the HPV vaccines, Gardasil, also prevents HPV types that cause most genital warts. Gardasil also has been shown to prevent some cancers of the anus, vulva (area around the opening of the vagina), and vagina. Both vaccines are given in 3 shots over 6 months. Or perhaps you consider the CDC just another Government agency trying to poison you "precious bodily fluids" http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-vaccine-young-women.htm You're moving the goal posts again, and missing the point. What's new? Your ABC link did not support your statement. It only talked about parental resistance. As for efficacy, we know that the vaccines only block out some of the HPV types out there, and 30% of the cancers we see are from those missing types. Given how readily it is transmitted, it's not a given that blocking out the 70% will change the bottom line of how many women get cancer. It seems logical that it would, but a person that doesn't eat beef or pork, but instead eats lamb 3 times a day can still develop heart disease. And a person eating only lamb, but taking statins, will on average, have less heart disease than a person who does not take statins. It's a question that can and should be asked, particularly in light of the recent discussion on the apparent reduced effectiveness of the whoop cough vaccine. The vast majority of the world's health organizations agree that the HPV vaccine saves lives. The pertussis vaccine has saved millions of lives, 10,000 a year in the US. The vaccine was reformulated and may need another booster after the age of 6, or it may just be that all the un-vaccinated kids depleted the herd immunity that was built during the Thimerosal causes autism fraud. It's probably a combination of both. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8yUSV4oqoU&feature=related Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #13 October 17, 2012 Quote The vast majority of the world's health organizations agree that the HPV vaccine saves lives. But can they prove it yet? There's a long time period between when the infections occur and when the cancers develop. Quote The pertussis vaccine has saved millions of lives, 10,000 a year in the US. The vaccine was reformulated and may need another booster after the age of 6, or it may just be that all the un-vaccinated kids depleted the herd immunity that was built during the Thimerosal causes autism fraud. It's probably a combination of both. regardless of why, it's only by constantly examining the presumed success rate that we get the results. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #14 February 10, 2015 Confirmed by another study: www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/10/the-craziest-anti-vaxx-argument-hpv-vaccines-make-you-promiscuous.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 197 #15 February 10, 2015 Agreed. I laugh at any effort to keep young men and women from being sexually active. Much better we should try to keep them healthy and keep them from having unwanted children.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #16 February 10, 2015 airdvrAgreed. I laugh at any effort to keep young men and women from being sexually active. Much better we should try to keep them healthy and keep them from having unwanted children. Right. Top 20 states for rate of teen pregnancy(a lot of Bible Belt states in here): 1. New Mexico – 80/1,000 2. Mississippi – 76/1,000 3. Texas – 73/1,000 4. Arkansas – 73/1,000 5. Louisiana – 69/1,000 6. Oklahoma – 69/1,000 7. Nevada – 68/1,000 8. Delaware – 67/1,000 9. South Carolina – 65/1,000 10. Hawaii – 65/1,000 11. Georgia – 64/1,000 12. Alaska – 64/1,000 13. West Virginia – 64/1,000 14. New York – 63/1,000 15. Alabama – 62/1,000 16. Kentucky – 62/1,000 17. Tennessee – 62/1,000 18. Arizona – 60/1,000 19. Florida – 60/1,000 20. North Carolina – 59/1,000... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #17 February 10, 2015 airdvrAgreed. I laugh at any effort to keep young men and women from being sexually active. Much better we should try to keep them healthy and keep them from having unwanted children. I think this is a men's rights issue. I've learned from reading that I may get throat cancer as a result of HPV. For some reason it is being argued that young females should receive this vaccine. How about young males? Or adult males? Understanding that heterosexual immunity may develop from vaccinated women, why is there not more stuff out there about the health risks to males from HPV and how women getting this vaccination can save male lives, as well? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #18 February 10, 2015 You make an excellent point. A form of herd immunity, I suppose. That said, I think the answer to your question is: the specific detail of conversation along that line, especially re: the correlation/causation to male throat cancer in particular, would be a non-starter (to put it mildly) to many parents of juvenile daughters. Unfortunate, but there it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandi 0 #19 February 11, 2015 QuoteI think this is a men's rights issue. I've learned from reading that I may get throat cancer as a result of HPV. For some reason it is being argued that young females should receive this vaccine. How about young males? Or adult males? Understanding that heterosexual immunity may develop from vaccinated women, why is there not more stuff out there about the health risks to males from HPV and how women getting this vaccination can save male lives, as well? Actually, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends the vaccine for both females and males now. It is recommended to be part of the standard vaccination schedule for all children. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites