JohnRich 4 #1 July 3, 2012 Google has a new shopping search web site, and they have decided to make it "family friendly". So they've banned things like porn and other items which you wouldn't want your children to see. But what else do they include in their "unfriendly" category of items that can't be listed? Guns. And not just firearms, but also firearm accessories like ammunition and magazines. Heck, even a search for a holster comes up blank, and that's just a harmless hunk of leather. You can search Google for "midget sex with horses" and get over 4 million hits, but search Google Shopping for holsters and you get ZERO! Apparently leather holsters are more unfriendly to kids then midgets having sex with horses. Google: Making the world safe for humanity, by banning guns. Prohibited categories: • Vehicles • Guns, ammunition and knives • Tobacco and cigarettes • Traffic devices • Products related to casino and gambling • Products or digital goods that require additional software installation. • Products bundled with service plans. Try it for yourself, and see if you can find anything firearms related: http://www.google.com/prdhp Try typing in names of types of guns, types of ammunition, names of gun manufacturers, names of accessories. Let me know if you find anything. This is not about their "safe search" feature, because even if you turn that off, there's still no gun stuff. Oh, you CAN find BB guns and airsoft guns, so apparently kids shooting their eyes out IS family friendly. And big-ass Rambo knives too! (Despite the fact that they are listed in the prohibited category.) But if you want a new holster, nyet! For more info, go to the bottom of the Google Shopping screen, and click "Information for merchants", "Program policies". and then the "Family status" & "Prohibited items" buttons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #2 July 3, 2012 They banned guns from the local Babies r Us as well. And the barber's shop! It's the end of America as we know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #3 July 3, 2012 Especially since there's absolutely no tool on the Internet you can use to google the phrase, "gun shop." http://www.google.com/search?q=gun+shop&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safariquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #4 July 3, 2012 QuoteYou can search Google for "midget sex with horses" and get over 4 million hits, but search Google Shopping for holsters and you get ZERO! Apparently leather holsters are more unfriendly to kids then midgets having sex with horses. And if you search for "holster" on Google, you get about 40 million hits. Why are you searching for one on Google and the other on Google Shopping and then comparing them? (I don't see any "midget sex with horses" for sale on Google Shopping either.) Anyhow, it's their business. They can choose to sell or not sell whatever they want. And there is plenty of competition you can take your business to. I pretty much never use Google anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,625 #5 July 3, 2012 Quote You can search Google for "midget sex with horses" and get over 4 million hits TMI, but I wondered what you were up to when not playing with your guns or skydiving.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #6 July 3, 2012 QuoteYou can search Google for "midget sex with horses" and get over 4 million hits, but search Google Shopping for holsters and you get ZERO! Nice massaging of statistics there, John. I searched Google for "holsters" and got 17.5 million hits. I then searched Good Shopping for "midget sex with horses": No hits. "Lies, damned lies and statistics." -Some guy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #7 July 3, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou can search Google for "midget sex with horses" and get over 4 million hits TMI, but I wondered what you were up to when not playing with your guns or skydiving. Well, accoring to moderator billvon, apparently it is perfectly okay to accuse someone of having midget sex with horses, and that is NOT deemed to be a personal insult! Maybe billvon-the-duck is having midget horse sex himself, along with kallend... Perhaps midget horse sex participants have to stick together and protect one another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #8 July 3, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou can search Google for "midget sex with horses" and get over 4 million hits, but search Google Shopping for holsters and you get ZERO! Nice massaging of statistics there, John. I searched Google for "holsters" and got 17.5 million hits. I then searched Good Shopping for "midget sex with horses": No hits. "Lies, damned lies and statistics." -Some guy The point is, you can google the most obscure thing you can possibly imagine in your mind, and get tons of hits. But when you google-shop something very common and ordinary like "holsters", you get nothing. What all this means is that google actually has a database of words and phrases somewhere, that is used to filter all the search requests for acceptability. And gun stuff is lumped in there right along with all the porn. Guns aren't porn, and shouldn't be treated as such. But hey, everyone's too excited now about midget horse sex to actually spend a few brain cell-seconds on thinking about the topic. Step right up laides and gentlemen, get your midget horse sex videos right here! http://www.google.com/search?q=midget+horse+sex+videos&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SUNA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #9 July 3, 2012 This place gets more bizarre by the dayWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #10 July 3, 2012 That's the great thing about capitalism, if your not happy with a certain company, you are then free to ignore them or start your own search enginge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #11 July 3, 2012 QuoteWell, accoring to moderator billvon, apparently it is perfectly okay to accuse someone of having midget sex with horses, and that is NOT deemed to be a personal insult! For someone who recently spent a good deal of time in a different thread complaining about having words put in his mouth, you are doing a good job of putting words in someone else's mouth here. Nobody accused anyone of having "midget sex with horses" (well, until you accused billvon of just that). The obvious intent behind the comment you're reacting to, was that your posts suggested you spend time on the internet searching for information about midget horse sex. Research is quite different from participation, and I'm not sure how implying that somebody uses the internet to research _____ is an insult on personal character. Speaking of which, how exactly does a non-midget engage in "midget sex with a horse"? Maybe your research could help us answer that question. QuoteBut hey, everyone's too excited now about midget horse sex to actually spend a few brain cell-seconds on thinking about the topic. The topic is being discussed. You just don't like the answers. Answers given so far: - A comparison between a context search for one item and a store search for a different item is invalid. Both items you mentioned are not present in the store, and both items you mentioned ARE present in web searches. - Not every store sells every item. - The items you do want can be found elsewhere. Here are half a dozen questions though if you want to continue discussing: What else exactly is there to discuss? My local pharmacy does not sell altimeters. If I created a thread about that, what do you think the result would be? A resounding "buy your fucking altimeters elsewhere." Why should Google have less freedom than my local pharmacy to decide what they list for sale? What you like to see happen to rectify this horrible situation for you? Do you believe a corporation should change their opinion because of yours? Or should you use your opinion to choose a different corporation? I have literally never once in my life asked a store to carry an item that they don't. When I want to buy something, I look for it where I know can get it. Simple, right? But if you do want Google to change... why are you telling us?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #12 July 3, 2012 I've never shopped on Google. I didn't know that it exists. I've purchased hundreds of things on Amazon, where I get 223,179 hits on "holster," 22,353 of which I can get with free 2 day shipping. 1600+ Amazon hits for horse sex, and 100 for midget sex, but no midget horse sex. Where is our shopping freedom? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #13 July 3, 2012 Quote What else exactly is there to discuss? My local pharmacy does not sell altimeters. If I created a thread about that, what do you think the result would be? A resounding "buy your fucking altimeters elsewhere." Why should Google have less freedom than my local pharmacy to decide what they list for sale? Did John ever suggest that they don't or should not have the freedom to do so? He expressed his dissatisfaction with them for it. But your argument doesn't stand to scrutiny. A pharmacy is a focused vendor. Google Market is a bazaar of anyone and everyone that is willing to be searchable and pay a referral fee for sales. It costs Google nothing to offer guns...in fact they have to do extra work to not make them available for sale. It was a conscious politically driven policy decision, not a business one. Walmart and KMart toyed with that for a while, but generally have reverted back. They too are in the business of trying to meet all needs for its customers, not more narrowly focused ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 0 #14 July 3, 2012 QuoteDid John ever suggest that they don't or should not have the freedom to do so? No, he did not. Which is why I am asking him what exactly he believes regarding that issue, in the interest of further on-topic "thinking." QuoteHe expressed his dissatisfaction with them for it. And dissatisfaction with the posters who expressed a differing opinion, accusing them of not wanting to think about the topic. QuoteBut your argument doesn't stand to scrutiny. A pharmacy is a focused vendor. Google Market is a bazaar of anyone and everyone that is willing to be searchable and pay a referral fee for sales. It costs Google nothing to offer guns...in fact they have to do extra work to not make them available for sale. It was a conscious politically driven policy decision, not a business one. It's not an argument, it's an example. There is not a 1:1 correspondence between both examples, but one simple fact does carry over perfectly. My local pharmacy is whatever it wants to be, as is Google. Both entities have the rights to make whatever business and political decisions they want, and it would be an error to assume that for ANY enterprise (even the lemonade stand on the corner) business and politics do not commingle.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #15 July 3, 2012 Quote It was a conscious politically driven policy decision, not a business one. Not all actions are political, many are moral. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #16 July 3, 2012 John, I found this one via Google shopping: http://www.opticsplanet.com/undertech-undercover-ultimate-compression-women-s-concealment-shirts.html and this: http://www.opticsplanet.com/undertech-undercover-ultimate-compression-women-s-concealment-shorts.html And more: http://compare.ebay.com/like/320794406921?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y Hey whatcha packing? : http://www.amazon.com/Smart-Concealed-Carry-Handgun-Holster/dp/B007QG6ZGE And even two hits for midget horse sex. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #17 July 3, 2012 QuoteI have literally never once in my life asked a store to carry an item that they don't. When I want to buy something, I look for it where I know can get it. I don't see anything wrong with asking a store to carry an item that they don't. Most companies would appreciate the feedback, whether they use it or not. But it's a bit silly to throw a tantrum when they don't carry a particular product. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #18 July 4, 2012 QuoteQuote It was a conscious politically driven policy decision, not a business one. Not all actions are political, many are moral. i rarely see a difference between them. So much of morality has its origins in control of the peasants anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #19 July 4, 2012 QuoteThat's the great thing about capitalism, if your not happy with a certain company, you are then free to ignore them or start your own search enginge. This.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,625 #20 July 4, 2012 What he said!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites