Another school shooting

[riddler 0]

This time, in France, which has strict gun laws.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/20/world/europe/france-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Toulouse, France (CNN) -- Authorities are investigating the possibility that neo-Nazis are behind a shooting spree that left three children and a teacher dead at a Jewish school in France, Interior Minister Claude Gueant said Tuesday.

That is one of several leads authorities are following after the Monday killings -- the third fatal attack on people from minority groups in the south of France in the space of eight days.

The country's southwest region remained on scarlet alert, the highest possible level, after the teacher and three children were gunned down at the Ozar Hatorah school in Toulouse.
The gunman at the Jewish school wore a camera on his chest during the attack, Gueant told Europe 1 in an interview Tuesday.

The minister said a witness had told authorities about the device. Gueant did not know if the gunman recorded the attack.

Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD

[shropshire 0]

Might have 'strict-ish' gun laws but does have open borders to other countries.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Andy9o8 0]

Strawman. Nobody says that strict gun laws make it impossible for determined criminals to obtain or use guns, any more than anyone is saying that extremely permissive gun laws will result in anarchical bloodbaths.

The gun debate has a lot of valid issues to discuss, if everyone's willing to be intellectually honest. Strawmen don't contribute to the dialog; they're more like dogs barking at passing cars.

[Coreece 190]

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Might have 'strict-ish' gun laws but does have open borders to other countries.

Might have strict border control, but at least we pick up our dog shit...

Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

[piisfish 135]

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The gunman at the Jewish school wore a camera on his chest during the attack, Gueant told Europe 1 in an interview Tuesday.

The minister said a witness had told authorities about the device. Gueant did not know if the gunman recorded the attack.

that's the Go-Pro nutter I mentionned earlier...
He is attacking "minorities", first was a military from north-african descendance, the 3 other military were 2 from north-african descendance, one from the french west indies, and then at the school all clearly jewish.

This person needs to be dismembered in public.
The attacks are clearly racist, as he also told an elderly person (apparently of "french look") to stay away so as not to get hurt.

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[firemedic 7]

From the information available on this incident, it appears it is very unlike most other school shootings. It isn't a case of a troubled student going off the deep end or bullied one out for revenge. This attack came from outside. This looks more like a hate crime or a terrorist attack at a school.

[piisfish 135]

yes, it seems that this person is a racist serial murderer (with a GoPro)

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[Remster 24]

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This looks more like a hate crime or a terrorist attack at a school.

Not just at a school. It's the same gun that was used at 2 other shooting in the last few weeks, as piish said, targeting French Para's from North African origins, and another from West Indies origins.

Remster

[piisfish 135]

must be some very courageous person. sooting people from behind while they are getting money at the ATM, or running after an 8year old girl to shoot her in the head

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[firemedic 7]

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This looks more like a hate crime or a terrorist attack at a school.

Not just at a school. It's the same gun that was used at 2 other shooting in the last few weeks, as piish said, targeting French Para's from North African origins, and another from West Indies origins.

I was wondering if the it was confirmed to be the same gun,
The last report I heard was it may be the same gun. If it is it looks like terrorism to me

[Remster 24]

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I was wondering if the it was confirmed to be the same gun,

That is what was announced yesterday on NPR from a reporter in France.

Remster

[Skyrad 0]

Strict gun laws are irrelevant when you're talking about a right wing terrorist. The man or men responsible for this are scum and should hang. My heart really goes out to the families of his victims.

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[mnealtx 0]

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Strict gun laws are irrelevant when you're talking about a right wing terrorist. The man or men responsible for this are scum and should hang. My heart really goes out to the families of his victims.

About that whole 'right wing terrorist' thing...

From CNN:

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Toulouse, France (CNN) -- Hundreds of police officers laid siege to an apartment in the south of France where a serial killing suspect was holed up, but the man authorities called an al Qaeda-trained jihadist refused to surrender as the standoff dragged on into Thursday morning.

The suspect, named by authorities as Mohammed Merah, 23, opened fire on police as they tried to ram down his apartment door about 3:30 a.m. Wednesday, wounding two officers, Paris prosecutor Francois Molins said.

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Merah told French police that he trained with al Qaeda in Pakistan's Waziristan region, bordering Afghanistan, said Molins.

At least they have him confined.

Mike
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[kelpdiver 2]

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About that whole 'right wing terrorist' thing...

From CNN:

***Toulouse, France (CNN) -- Hundreds of police officers laid siege to an apartment in the south of France where a serial killing suspect was holed up, but the man authorities called an al Qaeda-trained jihadist refused to surrender as the standoff dragged on into Thursday morning.

if you're going to place al Queda types on the left right scale, the right is where they would fit. They're the ultimate in conservative Muslims, wishing to return to the 10th Century.

[mnealtx 0]

Good point, although I doubt that's what he had in mind when he made the post.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[piisfish 135]

he has apparently been killed now.
no reason to be happy. What he did should have never happened. He proved a huge disservice to everyone.

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[falxori 0]

What shouldn't have happened is them giving him 30+ hours of prime time coverage before going in.

"Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

[piisfish 135]

true that .
I would also gladly chip-in for the ammo used.
He held the country by the balls for 30 hours.
They should have gotten him much quicker. But I guess they didn't want to precipitate the action too much, as they tried to get him alive.

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[firemedic 7]

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I was wondering if the it was confirmed to be the same gun,

That is what was announced yesterday on NPR from a reporter in France.

I missed that one. Hope their correct. One of the reporters announcing the incident said, "a man open fired with a semi-automatic machine gun." There's no such thing.