Another Veteran Badly Hurt by Oakland Police/Thugs

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the 1% have lost control of the agenda...

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While there are different agendas within the "Occupy Wall Street" movement, nearly all of the protesters say that wealth has become too concentrated among a relatively small group of Americans. The poll found that most Americans agree with that assessment: Two in three say that wealth is not distributed as equitably as it should be, while just one in four says wealth is distributed fairly.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20125515-503544/poll-43-percent-agree-with-views-of-occupy-wall-street/

Wealth is not to be distributed. It is to be earned. And, This is not preschool--No one ever said Life is fair, nor should it be forced to be.

You got that right...!! I earned every cent. Healthy, wealthy and retired.

[dreamdancer 0]

well then, in a very unfair way the 99% are about to strip the 1% of a large chunk of their wealth and power - and the 1% will whinge and whine (and you on their behalf) about how unfair it all is

stay away from moving propellers - they bite
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[DesertAttorney 0]

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well then, in a very unfair way the 99% are about to strip the 1% of a large chunk of their wealth and power - and the 1% will whinge and whine (and you on their behalf) about how unfair it all is

How exactly is that supposed to work, given the lack of any concerted efforts of the "99%"?

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don't you fret about the details - just be happy that someone is doing it on your behalf...

stay away from moving propellers - they bite
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[mnealtx 0]

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don't you fret about the details - just be happy that someone is doing it on your behalf...

So, you've got nothing....like usual.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[DesertAttorney 0]

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don't you fret about the details - just be happy that someone is doing it on your behalf...

So, you've got nothing....like usual.

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[captain_stan 0]

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the 1% will whinge and whine

Predicting the future again, eh Dreamy? I think it's more likely that the 1% will just make another payment to the corrupt politicians that were elected by the less-intellegent majority within that 99%. And it will be business as usual unless the 99% ever wise-up.

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we've got the majority - and now we're not afraid to use it
(the 1% and their mouthpieces will of course whine about how unfair we're being to them)

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[Belgian_Draft 0]

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Throughout the fall, the United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection Poll has revealed an electorate that's extremely critical of Congress and wary of embracing any particular policy prescription for getting the American economy growing more briskly. The millionaire's surtax has cut through the clutter. Although it may not be surprising that 90 percent of Democrats support this Democratic proposal, it's notable that 71 percent of independents do and even 37 percent of Republicans like this kind of a tax increase.

When it comes to those Wall Street protests, there's also a populist streak: Remarkably, nearly one-third of Republicans--31 percent--completely or mostly agree with their aims.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/10/poll-most-americans-support-occupy-wall-street/246963/

That...is...the ...same....poll.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[Belgian_Draft 0]

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don't you fret about the details - just be happy that someone is doing it on your behalf...

So, you've got nothing....like usual.

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HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[dreamdancer 0]

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Forty-six percent of Americans say "Occupy Wall Street" represents the views of most Americans, compared to 34 percent who say it does not. Asked specifically what they think about "Occupy Wall Street" as a movement - as opposed to the ideas behind it - Americans were more reticent to offer an opinion: 25 percent said they had a favorable impression of the movement, 20 percent said they have an unfavorable impression, and 53 percent said they were undecided or haven't heard enough.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20125515-503544/poll-43-percent-agree-with-views-of-occupy-wall-street/

stay away from moving propellers - they bite
blue skies from thai sky adventures
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[DesertAttorney 0]

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Forty-six percent of Americans say "Occupy Wall Street" represents the views of most Americans, compared to 34 percent who say it does not. Asked specifically what they think about "Occupy Wall Street" as a movement - as opposed to the ideas behind it - Americans were more reticent to offer an opinion: 25 percent said they had a favorable impression of the movement, 20 percent said they have an unfavorable impression, and 53 percent said they were undecided or haven't heard enough.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20125515-503544/poll-43-percent-agree-with-views-of-occupy-wall-street/

So what are the steps toward this "equalization" thievery you say is incoming? Are you a member of some Privy Council on Marxist Redistribution?

[Belgian_Draft 0]

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Forty-six percent of Americans say "Occupy Wall Street" represents the views of most Americans, compared to 34 percent who say it does not. Asked specifically what they think about "Occupy Wall Street" as a movement - as opposed to the ideas behind it - Americans were more reticent to offer an opinion: 25 percent said they had a favorable impression of the movement, 20 percent said they have an unfavorable impression, and 53 percent said they were undecided or haven't heard enough.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20125515-503544/poll-43-percent-agree-with-views-of-occupy-wall-street/

Ok, you have a poll that says what? The only majority in the section you quoted is that 53% are undecided or have not heard enough to determine whether they have a favorable impression.
Keep lookin'.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
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[diablopilot 2]

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well then, in a very unfair way the 99% are about to strip the 1% of a large chunk of their wealth and power - and the 1% will whinge and whine (and you on their behalf) about how unfair it all is

Yeah. Keep believing that. Let me know when you gub-ba-ment check comes in.

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I've said it before and I will say it again. If you want to get rid of bad cops you got to get rid of the police unions. Before you can fire a bad cop, you have to go through a wall of lawyers and legislation.

Till you do that, you get what you get. Suck it up or make the change.

...and there you have it folks.
Read it and weep.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[DesertAttorney 0]

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I've said it before and I will say it again. If you want to get rid of bad cops you got to get rid of the police unions. Before you can fire a bad cop, you have to go through a wall of lawyers and legislation.

Till you do that, you get what you get. Suck it up or make the change.

...and there you have it folks.
Read it and weep.

Police unions protect good cops against the whiny little prick thugs who readily attack Cops, but immediately cry brutality when their aggression is met in kind.

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I've said it before and I will say it again. If you want to get rid of bad cops you got to get rid of the police unions. Before you can fire a bad cop, you have to go through a wall of lawyers and legislation.

Till you do that, you get what you get. Suck it up or make the change.

...and there you have it folks.
Read it and weep.

Police unions protect good cops against the whiny little prick thugs who readily attack Cops, but immediately cry brutality when their aggression is met in kind.

Funny thing about working for the government. They can pass rules and set up boards fairly judge individual cases. You don't need unions to do that.

Unions actually prevent that. Public sector unions have way over stepped their bounds and protect bad cops too.

I have known a few. After so many years, some people loose their compassion. They have heard the story a thousand times before. They loose sight on what they are supposed to be doing. There needs to be a mechanism in place to take these people and either get them a desk job or get them off the force.

Not everyone that passes thru the academy should be a police officer. Not everyone has the mental capacity to deal with the dregs of society day in and day out.

They don't need to be police officers. If you can't protect and serve, get off the force. If you prove you are not capable, you need to be fired.

Unions hamper the process.

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I would actually argue that in the specter of Brady v. Maryland police actually need MORE protections.

A false accusation of excessive force, a jilted lover falsely reporting domestic violence, and many other similar circumstances, must be recorded in a police officer's personnel file. If the officer is ever in a position where he or she has to testify as to why the amount of force they used is appropriate, these false allegations must be turned over to the defense and will certainly be used by the defense to attempt to attack the officer's credibility, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE FALSE ALLEGATIONS.

[billvon 2,400]

>He is entitled to no more or less consideration than a non-Veteran.

Funny how the "support the troops" thing goes out the window as soon as said troop is on the wrong side of the aisle. Nothing new, of course.

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I would actually argue that in the specter of Brady v. Maryland police actually need MORE protections.

A false accusation of excessive force, a jilted lover falsely reporting domestic violence, and many other similar circumstances, must be recorded in a police officer's personnel file. If the officer is ever in a position where he or she has to testify as to why the amount of force they used is appropriate, these false allegations must be turned over to the defense and will certainly be used by the defense to attempt to attack the officer's credibility, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE FALSE ALLEGATIONS.

And when they are not false????

The officers that a bad cop .. or a group of bad cops have to work with know who the bad ones are.. but the paranoid nature of many cops lead them to take on an enmasse attitude of its US against THEM.. no matter how bad the actions of some that make the lot of them look bad.

Until they can shed that attitude... there will be a loss of faith of the public who they are supposedly sworn to protect and serve.

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>He is entitled to no more or less consideration than a non-Veteran.

Funny how the "support the troops" thing goes out the window as soon as said troop is on the wrong side of the aisle. Nothing new, of course.

Funny how the Left try to spin it both ways. Nothing new, of course.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Elite_Marksman 0]

When they aren't false I have no problem with them being used in a trial. But when the accusations have been proven to be false they have to place in any trials.

And cops are paranoid for a very good reason, IT KEEPS THEM ALIVE. Police assume every person they come into contact with is armed and has no problem killing them, because the one time they assume the 85 year old grandma is just an 85 year old grandma, she really has a warrant out for arrest and isn't going to go to jail, so she shoots the cop.

For this reason, if you are ever contacted by the police, anything you do that helps them feel safe greatly increases the chance that you'll get off with a warning instead of a ticket.

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For this reason, if you are ever contacted by the police, anything you do that helps them feel safe greatly increases the chance that you'll get off with a warning instead of a ticket.

safest thing is just to record/video the contact so that the police know they're being watched...

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For this reason, if you are ever contacted by the police, anything you do that helps them feel safe greatly increases the chance that you'll get off with a warning instead of a ticket.

safest thing is just to record/video the contact so that the police know they're being watched...

Yep
and then the honest thing to do is show the whole video when you get you ass kicked by the police for being stupid

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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the honest thing to do is show the whole video when you get you ass kicked by the police for being stupid

I didn't realize ass kicking was on the list of core competencies in LEO training...It must be found somewhere between conflict resolution and ethics.

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