kelpdiver 2 #26 August 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote I'm sorry, how did we get the name of the courier that lead us to Bin Laden again? Oh yea, waterboarding KSM. That's the best you can do? Unconfirmed assertions that the key evidence came from torturing detainees? If that's all it took, again, why didn't it happen between Sept 2001 and Jan 2009? It's been verified, where have you been? It just took a while to find him because, well, Pakistan isn't our friend, as much as it pains me to say it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488436/WikiLeaks-Osama-bin-Laden-killed-after-tip-offs-from-Guantanamo.html This isn't the confirmation you think it is. Fact - some evidence, perhaps even key evidence came from said individual. Fact - this guy was tortured at times during the interrogation process. Your conclusion is: torture was the key method to get the information to find Bin Laden. And that without it, it wouldn't have been possible. Not actually supported. The anti-torture people can (and have) said that this could have delayed the process. Our own military considers the material obtained from torture to be unreliable and full of false leads. Less disputable is that the military force of the US was substantially distracted by the Iraq war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanJohnson 0 #27 August 8, 2011 ***Since it's tax payer funded, we should be able to name it. Quote "The Mayans were Lyin , 2012 is "Gonna' be swell" Victory Tour" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #28 August 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteTo attack his policy, he actually has to come forward with one. How mush stuff has he put on paper and pushed forward? After all the time and effort you yanks spent on here beating each other up over ObamaCare I'm slightly confused to hear that it either a) never happened or b) had nothing at all to do with Obama. Really, it's amazing how the guy manages to be the evil socialist death knell of America while not ever actually doing anything. You think he put that crap forward? Him and Pelosi are still waiting for everything in that 2,000 plus page monstrosity to kick in so they can find out whats in it. All the American businesses out there aren't hiring or spending because they don't know how much it's going to cost. No they are not investing because they are really ANTI-AMERICAN ASSHATS....Kiss a multinational corporation for christ day is just around the corner... which one will you choose to kiss??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #29 August 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou think he put that crap forward? Yes. How could you not? QuoteHim and Pelosi are still waiting for everything in that 2,000 plus page monstrosity to kick in so they can find out whats in it. LOL, so what are you saying, if he didn't personally write it then he didn't have anything to do with it? Do you think Bush personally designed the '03 invasion plan? I'm sure that he was at least in the room with his generals when the invasion was planned. Have you seen how much back tracking Obama has had to do when describing "his" plan? I'm sure the press will continue to inform him of what's going on in between dinner parties and basketball games as more stuff gets implemented so he knows what he signed. Yeah.. his military brilliance in getting rid of the generals that told him the truth was astounding... instead he kept the idiots who told him what he wanted to hear. Great way to run a war.... with no end game... typical.. since he himself did not manage to actually serve out his entire tour... Face it.. he was a fucking quiter then... and he led us into a GOAT FUCK STUPID war.. because he needed to rattle his limp little sabre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StreetScooby 5 #30 August 8, 2011 Quote Yeah.. his military brilliance in getting rid of the generals that told him the truth was astounding... Ah, that was Rumsfeld. Granted, Bush did nothing to override him.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jgoose71 0 #31 August 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I'm sorry, how did we get the name of the courier that lead us to Bin Laden again? Oh yea, waterboarding KSM. That's the best you can do? Unconfirmed assertions that the key evidence came from torturing detainees? If that's all it took, again, why didn't it happen between Sept 2001 and Jan 2009? It's been verified, where have you been? It just took a while to find him because, well, Pakistan isn't our friend, as much as it pains me to say it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488436/WikiLeaks-Osama-bin-Laden-killed-after-tip-offs-from-Guantanamo.html This isn't the confirmation you think it is. Fact - some evidence, perhaps even key evidence came from said individual. Fact - this guy was tortured at times during the interrogation process. Your conclusion is: torture was the key method to get the information to find Bin Laden. And that without it, it wouldn't have been possible. Not actually supported. The anti-torture people can (and have) said that this could have delayed the process. Our own military considers the material obtained from torture to be unreliable and full of false leads. Less disputable is that the military force of the US was substantially distracted by the Iraq war. Your ignorance and naivete in the matter is showing. While just beating the shit out of someone while asking questions will surly give you false information, that's now how the US government does it. It's not what you see in the movies. There is a process. And yes, when asking about the stuff we really want to know about, the guy typically isn't strapped to the waterboard at the time. Like I said, it's a process. I would tell you all about it, but I'm not sure how much info about the process has been released for the general public. Amazon used to do it for a living on American troops, she might have more info to share with you. Get more info than what MSNBC is providing, maybe even volunteer for the military and then volunteer for SCERE school, and then we'll talk more about it after you have been educated on the subject."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites captain_stan 0 #32 August 8, 2011 Quote Since it's tax payer funded, we should be able to name it. I think "the Obama-nation tour" and "under-the-Bus tour" have already been considered and rejected by the administration.http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/taxpayers-cover-obama-bus-tour-midwest-b He says it's about jobs, that's why he is visiting battle ground swing states How did you manage to stir-up all the Bush haters? Is Obama running against Bush again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StreetScooby 5 #33 August 8, 2011 Quote Amazon used to do it for a living on American troops, she might have more info to share with you. OMG, I'll never look at her the same! We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jgoose71 0 #34 August 8, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote To attack his policy, he actually has to come forward with one. How mush stuff has he put on paper and pushed forward? After all the time and effort you yanks spent on here beating each other up over ObamaCare I'm slightly confused to hear that it either a) never happened or b) had nothing at all to do with Obama. Really, it's amazing how the guy manages to be the evil socialist death knell of America while not ever actually doing anything. You think he put that crap forward? Him and Pelosi are still waiting for everything in that 2,000 plus page monstrosity to kick in so they can find out whats in it. All the American businesses out there aren't hiring or spending because they don't know how much it's going to cost. No they are not investing because they are really ANTI-AMERICAN ASSHATS....Kiss a multinational corporation for christ day is just around the corner... which one will you choose to kiss??? Yes, because all the rich American corporations made all their money by being anti-American. Your brilliance is only outmatched by your grace and charm"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jgoose71 0 #35 August 8, 2011 Quote The Political situation throughout the world is pretty fucked.. but having small minded people like the original poster, is not helping whatsoever. if your going to have an opinion on something at least have some research and facts before spouting your mouth with 3rd hand garbage, from the fox network. one point Do you really think that the president had anything whatsoever to do with the killing of osama bin laden... Are you really that naive to think that his involvement in the operation involved more than his signature if that at all.... it could have been any president, one as thick as GW, or as intelligent (as a polititiion) as AL Gore, or any one.. Next point You site another tabloid paper which is also owned and operated by Murdoch... as your verification, as if whatever papers say must be true... (i'm not saying its always not) but please get it into your head, that newspapers and the corporations that own them, need to drive there own agenda's. Murdoch owns so much and has personally thrown his weight to elect governments... Both in the US, Australia, UK.. that is a fact. Last point,,. You think bush was in the room when they we're planning the invasion... doing what exactly?? using his military experience as a national guardsman to plan the movement of 130 000 troops... Your either a troll or an idiot.. 1. Whether you like it or not, the truth is this president has shown an incredible lack of leadership. His critics all say it. His actions have shown it. Whether it's the gulf oil spill, differing to the UN on Libya, letting Nancy Pelosi run the health care debate, not engaging on jobs, or what ever, he's not there. He won the Nobel Peace prize for being elected, that is his biggest accomplishment. I more than anyone else would like to see him get engaged in the process of being a leader. He is the President of the U.S. of A. He can't vote "present" on this one. 2. Yes, this post is somewhat of a troll. Thanks for feeding me. I don't think I could eat another bite. It's monday. I have other stuff to do now. Have fun with your week. Maybe we'll play again next weekend when I'm hungry again."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jgoose71 0 #36 August 8, 2011 Quote How did you manage to stir-up all the Bush haters? Is Obama running against Bush again? We might be able to get Jeb Bush to run for office in 2012"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites captain_stan 0 #37 August 8, 2011 Quote Quote How did you manage to stir-up all the Bush haters? Is Obama running against Bush again? We might be able to get Jeb Bush to run for office in 2012 Sure, why not? He couldn't be much worse than any of the rest of 'em. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #38 August 8, 2011 QuoteNo, only put the tools in place that got the intelligence that let Obama get bin laden. Tools that Obama took away. According to Obama, human intelligence isn't needed. Just bomb the bad guys, don't worry about taking anyone alive and questioning them..... You are completely full of shit on this. Obama escalated the intelligence focus on bin Laden significantly. He also shifted the focus to Afghanistan, where it should have been all along. These are simple facts. Just because they don't support your worldview, you can't pretend they aren't true. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DanG 1 #39 August 8, 2011 QuoteYour ignorance and naivete in the matter is showing. While just beating the shit out of someone while asking questions will surly give you false information, that's now how the US government does it. It's not what you see in the movies. There is a process. And yes, when asking about the stuff we really want to know about, the guy typically isn't strapped to the waterboard at the time. Like I said, it's a process. I would tell you all about it, but I'm not sure how much info about the process has been released for the general public. Amazon used to do it for a living on American troops, she might have more info to share with you. Get more info than what MSNBC is providing, maybe even volunteer for the military and then volunteer for SCERE school, and then we'll talk more about it after you have been educated on the subject. What, exactly, is your level of experience on the subject? And a related question, when did they change the name of SERE school? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crashtested 0 #40 August 8, 2011 You are the reason that skydivers need AAD's. You can't be trusted to make good judgement or analyse your own risk... You want to debate then debate, if you want to be ignorant white trash then you have won... Well done Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #41 August 8, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote To attack his policy, he actually has to come forward with one. How mush stuff has he put on paper and pushed forward? After all the time and effort you yanks spent on here beating each other up over ObamaCare I'm slightly confused to hear that it either a) never happened or b) had nothing at all to do with Obama. Really, it's amazing how the guy manages to be the evil socialist death knell of America while not ever actually doing anything. You think he put that crap forward? Him and Pelosi are still waiting for everything in that 2,000 plus page monstrosity to kick in so they can find out whats in it. All the American businesses out there aren't hiring or spending because they don't know how much it's going to cost. No they are not investing because they are really ANTI-AMERICAN ASSHATS....Kiss a multinational corporation for christ day is just around the corner... which one will you choose to kiss??? Yes, because all the rich American corporations made all their money by being anti-American. Your brilliance is only outmatched by your grace and charm And your inability to see multi-national corporations for what they are is the usual blindness from the far right who has been bought and paid for by them... strange bedfellows I tell ya... but not surprising since none of you seem capable of following the money behind all of your "grass roots" organizations.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #42 August 8, 2011 Quote Quote The Political situation throughout the world is pretty fucked.. but having small minded people like the original poster, is not helping whatsoever. if your going to have an opinion on something at least have some research and facts before spouting your mouth with 3rd hand garbage, from the fox network. one point Do you really think that the president had anything whatsoever to do with the killing of osama bin laden... Are you really that naive to think that his involvement in the operation involved more than his signature if that at all.... it could have been any president, one as thick as GW, or as intelligent (as a polititiion) as AL Gore, or any one.. Next point You site another tabloid paper which is also owned and operated by Murdoch... as your verification, as if whatever papers say must be true... (i'm not saying its always not) but please get it into your head, that newspapers and the corporations that own them, need to drive there own agenda's. Murdoch owns so much and has personally thrown his weight to elect governments... Both in the US, Australia, UK.. that is a fact. Last point,,. You think bush was in the room when they we're planning the invasion... doing what exactly?? using his military experience as a national guardsman to plan the movement of 130 000 troops... Your either a troll or an idiot.. 1. Whether you like it or not, the truth is this president has shown an incredible lack of leadership. His critics all say it. His actions have shown it. Whether it's the gulf oil spill, differing to the UN on Libya, letting Nancy Pelosi run the health care debate, not engaging on jobs, or what ever, he's not there. He won the Nobel Peace prize for being elected, that is his biggest accomplishment. I more than anyone else would like to see him get engaged in the process of being a leader. He is the President of the U.S. of A. He can't vote "present" on this one. 2. Yes, this post is somewhat of a troll. Thanks for feeding me. I don't think I could eat another bite. It's monday. I have other stuff to do now. Have fun with your week. Maybe we'll play again next weekend when I'm hungry again. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I guess that serves as far right wing brilliance BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites charlie5 0 #43 August 8, 2011 The petty bickering from both sides is depressing. Government is broken, period. Not one side or the other. *Then again this divisiveness is exactly what those in power want and the flock follow.The feather butts bounce off ya like raindrops hitting a battle-star when they come in too fast...kinda funny to watch. - airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Channman 2 #44 August 8, 2011 > Onward christian soldiers.. marching as to war... with the cross of Jesus... going on before Love that song, thanks for posting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StreetScooby 5 #45 August 8, 2011 Quote The petty bickering from both sides is depressing. Government is broken, period. Not one side or the other. *Then again this divisiveness is exactly what those in power want and the flock follow. Well said, and could not agree more.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jclalor 12 #46 August 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteYou are the reason that skydivers need AAD's. You can't be trusted to make good judgement or analyse your own risk... You want to debate then debate, if you want to be ignorant white trash then you have won... They have no original thoughts, if Limbaugh or Hannity said it, it must be true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #47 August 8, 2011 Quote He says it's about jobs, that's why he is visiting battle ground swing states This is what....the sixth or seventh time it's been about jobs?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #48 August 8, 2011 Quote Nobama tour ...Hope you have change tour To pay for the bus he's using?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #49 August 8, 2011 Quote When you don't have oil money behind you, you need to raise some clams somehow. Why does he need 'big oil'...he's got Wall Street behind him... Top Industries of Obama Bundlers Industry Min. Raised # of Bundlers Securities & Investment $7,200,000 44 Lawyers/Law Firms $6,100,000 54 Business Services $3,900,000 22 Real Estate $2,300,000 15 TV/Movies/Music $2,100,000 10 And the 2010 summary... Total Raised: $48,662,185 Total Spent: $80,235,455 Well, *there's* a shocker...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #50 August 8, 2011 Quotebut not surprising since none of you seem capable of following the money behind all of your "grass roots" organizations.. You keep SAYING that, but you can't ever seem to 'show us the money'.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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Amazon 7 #28 August 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteTo attack his policy, he actually has to come forward with one. How mush stuff has he put on paper and pushed forward? After all the time and effort you yanks spent on here beating each other up over ObamaCare I'm slightly confused to hear that it either a) never happened or b) had nothing at all to do with Obama. Really, it's amazing how the guy manages to be the evil socialist death knell of America while not ever actually doing anything. You think he put that crap forward? Him and Pelosi are still waiting for everything in that 2,000 plus page monstrosity to kick in so they can find out whats in it. All the American businesses out there aren't hiring or spending because they don't know how much it's going to cost. No they are not investing because they are really ANTI-AMERICAN ASSHATS....Kiss a multinational corporation for christ day is just around the corner... which one will you choose to kiss??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #29 August 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou think he put that crap forward? Yes. How could you not? QuoteHim and Pelosi are still waiting for everything in that 2,000 plus page monstrosity to kick in so they can find out whats in it. LOL, so what are you saying, if he didn't personally write it then he didn't have anything to do with it? Do you think Bush personally designed the '03 invasion plan? I'm sure that he was at least in the room with his generals when the invasion was planned. Have you seen how much back tracking Obama has had to do when describing "his" plan? I'm sure the press will continue to inform him of what's going on in between dinner parties and basketball games as more stuff gets implemented so he knows what he signed. Yeah.. his military brilliance in getting rid of the generals that told him the truth was astounding... instead he kept the idiots who told him what he wanted to hear. Great way to run a war.... with no end game... typical.. since he himself did not manage to actually serve out his entire tour... Face it.. he was a fucking quiter then... and he led us into a GOAT FUCK STUPID war.. because he needed to rattle his limp little sabre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #30 August 8, 2011 Quote Yeah.. his military brilliance in getting rid of the generals that told him the truth was astounding... Ah, that was Rumsfeld. Granted, Bush did nothing to override him.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #31 August 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I'm sorry, how did we get the name of the courier that lead us to Bin Laden again? Oh yea, waterboarding KSM. That's the best you can do? Unconfirmed assertions that the key evidence came from torturing detainees? If that's all it took, again, why didn't it happen between Sept 2001 and Jan 2009? It's been verified, where have you been? It just took a while to find him because, well, Pakistan isn't our friend, as much as it pains me to say it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488436/WikiLeaks-Osama-bin-Laden-killed-after-tip-offs-from-Guantanamo.html This isn't the confirmation you think it is. Fact - some evidence, perhaps even key evidence came from said individual. Fact - this guy was tortured at times during the interrogation process. Your conclusion is: torture was the key method to get the information to find Bin Laden. And that without it, it wouldn't have been possible. Not actually supported. The anti-torture people can (and have) said that this could have delayed the process. Our own military considers the material obtained from torture to be unreliable and full of false leads. Less disputable is that the military force of the US was substantially distracted by the Iraq war. Your ignorance and naivete in the matter is showing. While just beating the shit out of someone while asking questions will surly give you false information, that's now how the US government does it. It's not what you see in the movies. There is a process. And yes, when asking about the stuff we really want to know about, the guy typically isn't strapped to the waterboard at the time. Like I said, it's a process. I would tell you all about it, but I'm not sure how much info about the process has been released for the general public. Amazon used to do it for a living on American troops, she might have more info to share with you. Get more info than what MSNBC is providing, maybe even volunteer for the military and then volunteer for SCERE school, and then we'll talk more about it after you have been educated on the subject."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain_stan 0 #32 August 8, 2011 Quote Since it's tax payer funded, we should be able to name it. I think "the Obama-nation tour" and "under-the-Bus tour" have already been considered and rejected by the administration.http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/taxpayers-cover-obama-bus-tour-midwest-b He says it's about jobs, that's why he is visiting battle ground swing states How did you manage to stir-up all the Bush haters? Is Obama running against Bush again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #33 August 8, 2011 Quote Amazon used to do it for a living on American troops, she might have more info to share with you. OMG, I'll never look at her the same! We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #34 August 8, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote To attack his policy, he actually has to come forward with one. How mush stuff has he put on paper and pushed forward? After all the time and effort you yanks spent on here beating each other up over ObamaCare I'm slightly confused to hear that it either a) never happened or b) had nothing at all to do with Obama. Really, it's amazing how the guy manages to be the evil socialist death knell of America while not ever actually doing anything. You think he put that crap forward? Him and Pelosi are still waiting for everything in that 2,000 plus page monstrosity to kick in so they can find out whats in it. All the American businesses out there aren't hiring or spending because they don't know how much it's going to cost. No they are not investing because they are really ANTI-AMERICAN ASSHATS....Kiss a multinational corporation for christ day is just around the corner... which one will you choose to kiss??? Yes, because all the rich American corporations made all their money by being anti-American. Your brilliance is only outmatched by your grace and charm"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #35 August 8, 2011 Quote The Political situation throughout the world is pretty fucked.. but having small minded people like the original poster, is not helping whatsoever. if your going to have an opinion on something at least have some research and facts before spouting your mouth with 3rd hand garbage, from the fox network. one point Do you really think that the president had anything whatsoever to do with the killing of osama bin laden... Are you really that naive to think that his involvement in the operation involved more than his signature if that at all.... it could have been any president, one as thick as GW, or as intelligent (as a polititiion) as AL Gore, or any one.. Next point You site another tabloid paper which is also owned and operated by Murdoch... as your verification, as if whatever papers say must be true... (i'm not saying its always not) but please get it into your head, that newspapers and the corporations that own them, need to drive there own agenda's. Murdoch owns so much and has personally thrown his weight to elect governments... Both in the US, Australia, UK.. that is a fact. Last point,,. You think bush was in the room when they we're planning the invasion... doing what exactly?? using his military experience as a national guardsman to plan the movement of 130 000 troops... Your either a troll or an idiot.. 1. Whether you like it or not, the truth is this president has shown an incredible lack of leadership. His critics all say it. His actions have shown it. Whether it's the gulf oil spill, differing to the UN on Libya, letting Nancy Pelosi run the health care debate, not engaging on jobs, or what ever, he's not there. He won the Nobel Peace prize for being elected, that is his biggest accomplishment. I more than anyone else would like to see him get engaged in the process of being a leader. He is the President of the U.S. of A. He can't vote "present" on this one. 2. Yes, this post is somewhat of a troll. Thanks for feeding me. I don't think I could eat another bite. It's monday. I have other stuff to do now. Have fun with your week. Maybe we'll play again next weekend when I'm hungry again."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #36 August 8, 2011 Quote How did you manage to stir-up all the Bush haters? Is Obama running against Bush again? We might be able to get Jeb Bush to run for office in 2012"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain_stan 0 #37 August 8, 2011 Quote Quote How did you manage to stir-up all the Bush haters? Is Obama running against Bush again? We might be able to get Jeb Bush to run for office in 2012 Sure, why not? He couldn't be much worse than any of the rest of 'em. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #38 August 8, 2011 QuoteNo, only put the tools in place that got the intelligence that let Obama get bin laden. Tools that Obama took away. According to Obama, human intelligence isn't needed. Just bomb the bad guys, don't worry about taking anyone alive and questioning them..... You are completely full of shit on this. Obama escalated the intelligence focus on bin Laden significantly. He also shifted the focus to Afghanistan, where it should have been all along. These are simple facts. Just because they don't support your worldview, you can't pretend they aren't true. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #39 August 8, 2011 QuoteYour ignorance and naivete in the matter is showing. While just beating the shit out of someone while asking questions will surly give you false information, that's now how the US government does it. It's not what you see in the movies. There is a process. And yes, when asking about the stuff we really want to know about, the guy typically isn't strapped to the waterboard at the time. Like I said, it's a process. I would tell you all about it, but I'm not sure how much info about the process has been released for the general public. Amazon used to do it for a living on American troops, she might have more info to share with you. Get more info than what MSNBC is providing, maybe even volunteer for the military and then volunteer for SCERE school, and then we'll talk more about it after you have been educated on the subject. What, exactly, is your level of experience on the subject? And a related question, when did they change the name of SERE school? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashtested 0 #40 August 8, 2011 You are the reason that skydivers need AAD's. You can't be trusted to make good judgement or analyse your own risk... You want to debate then debate, if you want to be ignorant white trash then you have won... Well done Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #41 August 8, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote To attack his policy, he actually has to come forward with one. How mush stuff has he put on paper and pushed forward? After all the time and effort you yanks spent on here beating each other up over ObamaCare I'm slightly confused to hear that it either a) never happened or b) had nothing at all to do with Obama. Really, it's amazing how the guy manages to be the evil socialist death knell of America while not ever actually doing anything. You think he put that crap forward? Him and Pelosi are still waiting for everything in that 2,000 plus page monstrosity to kick in so they can find out whats in it. All the American businesses out there aren't hiring or spending because they don't know how much it's going to cost. No they are not investing because they are really ANTI-AMERICAN ASSHATS....Kiss a multinational corporation for christ day is just around the corner... which one will you choose to kiss??? Yes, because all the rich American corporations made all their money by being anti-American. Your brilliance is only outmatched by your grace and charm And your inability to see multi-national corporations for what they are is the usual blindness from the far right who has been bought and paid for by them... strange bedfellows I tell ya... but not surprising since none of you seem capable of following the money behind all of your "grass roots" organizations.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #42 August 8, 2011 Quote Quote The Political situation throughout the world is pretty fucked.. but having small minded people like the original poster, is not helping whatsoever. if your going to have an opinion on something at least have some research and facts before spouting your mouth with 3rd hand garbage, from the fox network. one point Do you really think that the president had anything whatsoever to do with the killing of osama bin laden... Are you really that naive to think that his involvement in the operation involved more than his signature if that at all.... it could have been any president, one as thick as GW, or as intelligent (as a polititiion) as AL Gore, or any one.. Next point You site another tabloid paper which is also owned and operated by Murdoch... as your verification, as if whatever papers say must be true... (i'm not saying its always not) but please get it into your head, that newspapers and the corporations that own them, need to drive there own agenda's. Murdoch owns so much and has personally thrown his weight to elect governments... Both in the US, Australia, UK.. that is a fact. Last point,,. You think bush was in the room when they we're planning the invasion... doing what exactly?? using his military experience as a national guardsman to plan the movement of 130 000 troops... Your either a troll or an idiot.. 1. Whether you like it or not, the truth is this president has shown an incredible lack of leadership. His critics all say it. His actions have shown it. Whether it's the gulf oil spill, differing to the UN on Libya, letting Nancy Pelosi run the health care debate, not engaging on jobs, or what ever, he's not there. He won the Nobel Peace prize for being elected, that is his biggest accomplishment. I more than anyone else would like to see him get engaged in the process of being a leader. He is the President of the U.S. of A. He can't vote "present" on this one. 2. Yes, this post is somewhat of a troll. Thanks for feeding me. I don't think I could eat another bite. It's monday. I have other stuff to do now. Have fun with your week. Maybe we'll play again next weekend when I'm hungry again. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I guess that serves as far right wing brilliance BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charlie5 0 #43 August 8, 2011 The petty bickering from both sides is depressing. Government is broken, period. Not one side or the other. *Then again this divisiveness is exactly what those in power want and the flock follow.The feather butts bounce off ya like raindrops hitting a battle-star when they come in too fast...kinda funny to watch. - airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #44 August 8, 2011 > Onward christian soldiers.. marching as to war... with the cross of Jesus... going on before Love that song, thanks for posting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #45 August 8, 2011 Quote The petty bickering from both sides is depressing. Government is broken, period. Not one side or the other. *Then again this divisiveness is exactly what those in power want and the flock follow. Well said, and could not agree more.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #46 August 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteYou are the reason that skydivers need AAD's. You can't be trusted to make good judgement or analyse your own risk... You want to debate then debate, if you want to be ignorant white trash then you have won... They have no original thoughts, if Limbaugh or Hannity said it, it must be true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #47 August 8, 2011 Quote He says it's about jobs, that's why he is visiting battle ground swing states This is what....the sixth or seventh time it's been about jobs?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #48 August 8, 2011 Quote Nobama tour ...Hope you have change tour To pay for the bus he's using?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #49 August 8, 2011 Quote When you don't have oil money behind you, you need to raise some clams somehow. Why does he need 'big oil'...he's got Wall Street behind him... Top Industries of Obama Bundlers Industry Min. Raised # of Bundlers Securities & Investment $7,200,000 44 Lawyers/Law Firms $6,100,000 54 Business Services $3,900,000 22 Real Estate $2,300,000 15 TV/Movies/Music $2,100,000 10 And the 2010 summary... Total Raised: $48,662,185 Total Spent: $80,235,455 Well, *there's* a shocker...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #50 August 8, 2011 Quotebut not surprising since none of you seem capable of following the money behind all of your "grass roots" organizations.. You keep SAYING that, but you can't ever seem to 'show us the money'.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
mnealtx 0 #47 August 8, 2011 Quote He says it's about jobs, that's why he is visiting battle ground swing states This is what....the sixth or seventh time it's been about jobs?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #48 August 8, 2011 Quote Nobama tour ...Hope you have change tour To pay for the bus he's using?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #49 August 8, 2011 Quote When you don't have oil money behind you, you need to raise some clams somehow. Why does he need 'big oil'...he's got Wall Street behind him... Top Industries of Obama Bundlers Industry Min. Raised # of Bundlers Securities & Investment $7,200,000 44 Lawyers/Law Firms $6,100,000 54 Business Services $3,900,000 22 Real Estate $2,300,000 15 TV/Movies/Music $2,100,000 10 And the 2010 summary... Total Raised: $48,662,185 Total Spent: $80,235,455 Well, *there's* a shocker...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #50 August 8, 2011 Quotebut not surprising since none of you seem capable of following the money behind all of your "grass roots" organizations.. You keep SAYING that, but you can't ever seem to 'show us the money'.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
