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It's actually really good, and there's a little bit in it for everyone--he even yields some time to take questions from John Kerry. Clicky. He's definitely going to be one to watch. I predict a presidential run in his future.
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It's actually really good, and there's a little bit in it for everyone--he even yields some time to take questions from John Kerry. Clicky. He's definitely going to be one to watch. I predict a presidential run in his future.



Well, I liked what he had to say, and I thought the exchange between Rubio and Kerry was interesting.

However with that said, this so called compromise is nothing more than 9 plus trillion dollars added to our current debt over the next 10 years. So both parties are sending us down the road to Bankruptcy.

We will be rioting in the street in the next few years demanding our jobs, food stamps, pensions, medical care, child care, you name it. Our collective hands will no longer be out stretch asking for more, but closed in a fist looking for someone to blame.

We only have ourselves to blame. Our Nation is truely doomed if we can't even paydown a trillion dollars of debt over the next 10 years. Yep, we are looking at 23 trillion plus...it a damn shame[:/]

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It's actually really good, and there's a little bit in it for everyone--he even yields some time to take questions from John Kerry. Clicky. He's definitely going to be one to watch. I predict a presidential run in his future.



Well, I liked what he had to say, and I thought the exchange between Rubio and Kerry was interesting.

However with that said, this so called compromise is nothing more than 9 plus trillion dollars added to our current debt over the next 10 years. So both parties are sending us down the road to Bankruptcy.

We will be rioting in the street in the next few years demanding our jobs, food stamps, pensions, medical care, child care, you name it. Our collective hands will no longer be out stretch asking for more, but closed in a fist looking for someone to blame.

We only have ourselves to blame. Our Nation is truely doomed if we can't even paydown a trillion dollars of debt over the next 10 years. Yep, we are looking at 23 trillion plus...it a damn shame[:/]


and the rich (who's tax cuts brought us the deficit) will be laughing all the way to the bank...
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It's actually really good, and there's a little bit in it for everyone--he even yields some time to take questions from John Kerry. Clicky. He's definitely going to be one to watch. I predict a presidential run in his future.



Well, I liked what he had to say, and I thought the exchange between Rubio and Kerry was interesting.

However with that said, this so called compromise is nothing more than 9 plus trillion dollars added to our current debt over the next 10 years. So both parties are sending us down the road to Bankruptcy.

We will be rioting in the street in the next few years demanding our jobs, food stamps, pensions, medical care, child care, you name it. Our collective hands will no longer be out stretch asking for more, but closed in a fist looking for someone to blame.

We only have ourselves to blame. Our Nation is truely doomed if we can't even paydown a trillion dollars of debt over the next 10 years. Yep, we are looking at 23 trillion plus...it a damn shame[:/]


and the rich (who's tax cuts brought us the deficit) will be laughing all the way to the bank...


"Probably the greatest harm done by vast wealth is the harm that we of moderate means do ourselves when we let the vices of envy and hatred enter deep into our own natures". Theodore Roosevelt

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and the rich (who's tax cuts brought us the deficit) will be laughing all the way to the bank...



Entitlements in the form of medicare and unfunded social security payments make up the majority of our future deficit.

There isn't enough rich people in the world to make up for that multidecade fuck up.

Keep making claims that you can't support. I already showed you how a 100% tax on our top earners alone wouldn't solve the deficit issue.
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I still don't get why social security is called an "entitlement".

That's OUR money they rob from us from each paycheck that they're pissing away.
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There isn't enough rich people in the world to make up for that multidecade fuck up.

Keep making claims that you can't support. I already showed you how a 100% tax on our top earners alone wouldn't solve the deficit issue.



This. Even without those tax cuts, the great government Ponzi schemes would eventually have to be dealt with--they're simply not sustainable. The sooner people realize that, the better.
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I still don't get why social security is called an "entitlement".

That's OUR money they rob from us from each paycheck that they're pissing away.



Did you think that Uncle Sam was actually putting your money in a savings account for you?

He was rolling your bills up and using them to snort coke off of some high dollar hookers rear end!

Don't worry though, it is only an entitlement for the baby boomers whose elected officials used the payroll contributions for a bender. They will get to use your money, because their elected officials already spent theirs.

It won't be an entitlement when you go to collect, at that point it will be a Federal welfare program and the middle class won't get shit out of the deal.
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There isn't enough rich people in the world to make up for that multidecade fuck up.

Keep making claims that you can't support. I already showed you how a 100% tax on our top earners alone wouldn't solve the deficit issue.



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1,000% tax on the homeless and indigent won't solve it either. And since no-one has proposed a 100% tax on "top earners" (which you leave undefined) your argument is a straw man in addition to being stupid.

It would be nice to think that hedge fund managers making $millions for their WORK on behalf of their clients paid even at the same rate I do, instead of less than half my rate.
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1,000% tax on the homeless and indigent won't solve it either. And since no-one has proposed a 100% tax on "top earners" (which you leave undefined) your argument is a straw man in addition to being stupid.



Speaking of strawmen and stupid arguments, no-one has proposed a 1000% tax on the homeless and indigent.

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It would be nice to think that hedge fund managers making $millions for their WORK on behalf of their clients paid even at the same rate I do, instead of less than half my rate.



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I still don't get why social security is called an "entitlement".

That's OUR money they rob from us from each paycheck that they're pissing away.



and the rich piss away the most...

(and you just stand there)
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I still don't get why social security is called an "entitlement".

That's OUR money they rob from us from each paycheck that they're pissing away.



and the rich piss away the most...

(and you just stand there)



You're right, I should go down to the IRS and throw rocks at them.
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1,000% tax on the homeless and indigent won't solve it either. And since no-one has proposed a 100% tax on "top earners" (which you leave undefined) your argument is a straw man in addition to being stupid.



Speaking of strawmen and stupid arguments, no-one has proposed a 1000% tax on the homeless and indigent.



Beat me to it. The obvious point being, of course, that the national debt problem is more a matter of spending than revenue. Who gets taxed and how they are taxed is another matter.
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I still don't get why social security is called an "entitlement".

That's OUR money they rob from us from each paycheck that they're pissing away.



and the rich piss away the most...

(and you just stand there)



No the Federal government pissed away the money.

Since the Federal government is made up of officials elected by legal voting age non felon citizens I think it is safe to say that the voting public pissed away the money.

There are more possible voters that are poor and middle than rich ones, the number that actual vote is another story.

The American people pissed away the money by letting this shit go on and if they didn't vote they are just as guilty.

Do you really think the filthy rich broke in to the social secuirity lock box, snicker, and stole the loot? It was already gone, nothing to steal even if they tried.
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Do you really think the filthy rich broke in to the social secuirity lock box, snicker, and stole the loot?



bullseye :)
(you're not as stupid as you make out)
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1,000% tax on the homeless and indigent won't solve it either. And since no-one has proposed a 100% tax on "top earners" (which you leave undefined) your argument is a straw man in addition to being stupid.

It would be nice to think that hedge fund managers making $millions for their WORK on behalf of their clients paid even at the same rate I do, instead of less than half my rate.



No it isn't a straw man.

It is relevant because 90% of Dream Dancers posts relate to taxing the rich as a solution to our problem.

In a previous post I showed him with 2006 census data that a 100% tax on the top earners would not generate enough revenue to fix the deficit. I forget where the census started this bracket, but it was in the 100-200K range, and the mean of the population distribution was far from filthy rich.

If a 100% tax can't generate enough tax revenue to fix the problem, then the more likely to be legislated tax rates won't do it either.

If you don't reform medicare and social security we are doomed. No amount other mix of spending cuts and tax increases will make up for a failure to reform the other two.
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Do you really think the filthy rich broke in to the social secuirity lock box, snicker, and stole the loot?



bullseye :)
(you're not as stupid as you make out)


Nice PA. I won't stoop to your level to share what your posts make you out to be.

So which specific rich people would that be who directly raided social security.

Put up or shut up with some names and evidence.
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It is relevant because 90% of Dream Dancers posts relate to taxing the rich as a solution to our problem.



Dreamdancer has a "Hammer and Sickle" tattooed to his butt.

Sending myself to the SC penalty box now for this last post. :ph34r:


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Some of you are right and and you some are wrong, but it really doesn't matter at this point. The politicians have taken care of themselves and the rest of us will eventually have to fight over what is left over. The majority of VOTING Americans are getting their % of the 80,000,000 government checks that are sent out each month and they will continue to VOTE that their checks continue.

Way too much momentum in the wrong direction when those who don't contribute, decide where the money goes. This will not stop until it breaks and you better have a reserve someplace till it is fixed. This train is going off of the track.....
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So true.

And people are considered "extremists" when they want the government to balance their checkbook the same way citizens have to.

When the norm is to spend spend spend what we can't afford, we're f*cked.
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And people are considered "extremists" when they want the government to balance their checkbook the same way citizens have to.



will make for an interesting election next year. Every once in a long while, the people do punish Congress with a mass blood letting. The GOP already suffered some of this with the Tea Party uprising - will the Democrats now suffer as well? (and hopefully the junior TP Members who contribute nothing but no)

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> we're f*cked.

Primarily the reason I pulled all my money out of equities and put it into money market funds. Yea, I'm not going to make any money in money market funds, and I'm sure to see a small down turn.

But I guess I should look at the positive, we once again were able to stop a Make Believe Crisis, the End of the World as Nancy Pelosi put it has been called off. Conservatives and liberal American's, Progressives, communist, socialist, Channman, Rushmc, Bill, Kallend and the Amazon chick can lay our heads down tonight with visions of Dreamdancer dancing in our heads:S and say in a soft whisper,....”all is well.” Good Night America, sweet dreams.

"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;

Have an awesome weekend, and stay safe out there...them streets are slick. Gots to go do some Instrument Approaches, staying frosty.

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ROFLMAO ... there are millions and millions of people like this guy.



Yep.

Poverty in America is vastly overblown by the liberals:

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Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation writing at nationalreview.com, July 26:

The Census Bureau reported last fall that 43 million Americans—one in seven of us—were poor. But what is poverty in America today? The most recent government data show that more than half of the families defined as poor by the Census Bureau have a computer in the home. More than three of every four poor families have air conditioning, almost two-thirds have cable or satellite television, and 92% have microwaves. . . . The typical poor family has at least two color TVs, a VCR, and a DVD player. One-third have a wide-screen, plasma, or LCD TV. And the typical poor family with children has a video-game system such as Xbox or PlayStation. . . .

Liberals use the declining relative prices of many amenities to argue that it is no big deal that poor households have air conditioning, computers, microwaves, and cable or satellite TV. They contend that even though most poor families have a house full of modern conveniences, the average poor family still suffers from real deprivation in basic needs such as food and housing.

Really? Let's look at housing. The typical news story about poverty features a homeless family with kids sleeping in the back of a minivan. But government data show that only one in 70 poor persons is homeless.

Another common media image of poverty is a despondent family living in a dilapidated mobile home. But only a tenth of the poor lives in trailers; the rest live in houses or apartments, many of which are in good repair.

The poor are rarely overcrowded. In fact, the average poor American has more living space than the average non-poor European. How about hunger? Activists proclaim, "At the end of the day, 17 million children go to bed hungry." TV news reports wail that America faces a "hunger crisis" in which "nearly one in four kids" is hungry.

But the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which conducts the nation's food-consumption and hunger survey, says otherwise. The USDA reports that 988,000 children (or 1.3% of all American children) personally experienced very low food security—which means "reduced food intake and disrupted eating patterns"—at any point in 2009. During the full course of the year, only one child in 67 was reported "hungry," even temporarily, because the family couldn't afford enough food. Ninety-nine percent of children did not skip a single meal during 2009 because of lack of financial resources.


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