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JohnRich 4
QuoteOf course, the Chicago murder rate peaked in 1930 at about 15 per 100k, declining until about 1945 with around 6 per 100k. By 1994, with strict gun laws, the murder rate
droppedrose to about 33 per 100k, though it is presently at around 18 per 100k.
Not since 1965 has the murder rate in Chicago been as low as it was in the wide open days of the Prohibition gangland.
Good post. Correction made, above, in case anyone didn't detect the tongue-in-cheek sarcastic nature of your message.
JohnRich 4
QuoteWisconsin passes concealed carry law
News:
All eyes turn to Illinois for next gun battleFull story: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-conceal-carry-illinois-20110622,0,3927671.story
With Wisconsin poised to allow people to carry concealed weapons in public, gun advocates have made Illinois — the last holdout — a prime target in their campaign to give citizens unrestricted rights to carry weapons...
In a few years, even some Chicago professors might be applying for concealed carry licenses!
mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteIf it were as hard to get a driver's license as it is to get a CCW permit, there wouldn't be any cars on the road.
Nonsense.
So, you have a list of the places that require a full set of fingerprints and state/federal background checks to get a driver's license?
Please list them, I'd like to see where they are.
Mike
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QuoteQuoteQuoteIf it were as hard to get a driver's license as it is to get a CCW permit, there wouldn't be any cars on the road.
Nonsense.
So, you have a list of the places that require a full set of fingerprints and state/federal background checks to get a driver's license?
Please list them, I'd like to see where they are.
Just as soon as you provide a list of states that require as much training as is required to get a driver's license in Germany, where, if I'm not mistaken, cars are doing just fine.
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mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIf it were as hard to get a driver's license as it is to get a CCW permit, there wouldn't be any cars on the road.
Nonsense.
So, you have a list of the places that require a full set of fingerprints and state/federal background checks to get a driver's license?
Please list them, I'd like to see where they are.
Just as soon as you provide a list of states that require as much training as is required to get a driver's license in Germany, where, if I'm not mistaken, cars are doing just fine.
We're discussing the United States, not Germany. *DO* try to keep up.
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIf it were as hard to get a driver's license as it is to get a CCW permit, there wouldn't be any cars on the road.
Nonsense.
So, you have a list of the places that require a full set of fingerprints and state/federal background checks to get a driver's license?
Please list them, I'd like to see where they are.
Just as soon as you provide a list of states that require as much training as is required to get a driver's license in Germany, where, if I'm not mistaken, cars are doing just fine.
We're discussing the United States, not Germany. *DO* try to keep up.
Oh really?!? Where does it say that in this statement?
Quote
QuoteIf it were as hard to get a driver's license as it is to get a CCW permit, there wouldn't be any cars on the road.
The assertion isn't supported by any evidence whatsoever, yet can be disproven almost trivially by a comparison to a country where it's actually the case.
Ignore facts if you want to, but that doesn't make you right.
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mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIf it were as hard to get a driver's license as it is to get a CCW permit, there wouldn't be any cars on the road.
Nonsense.
So, you have a list of the places that require a full set of fingerprints and state/federal background checks to get a driver's license?
Please list them, I'd like to see where they are.
Just as soon as you provide a list of states that require as much training as is required to get a driver's license in Germany, where, if I'm not mistaken, cars are doing just fine.
We're discussing the United States, not Germany. *DO* try to keep up.
Oh really?!? Where does it say that in this statement?Quote
QuoteIf it were as hard to get a driver's license as it is to get a CCW permit, there wouldn't be any cars on the road.
I was unaware that WISCONSIN was a German state. Where *would* we be without you, Paul?
QuoteThe assertion isn't supported by any evidence whatsoever, yet can be disproven almost trivially by a comparison to a country where it's actually the case.
Actually it is, as I showed above with the fingerprint/background check requirements. The fact that you have to use an entirely different country as a counter only reinforces my (and his) point.
QuoteIgnore facts if you want to, but that doesn't make you right.
Speaking of ignoring fact...you DID see where the thread was about Wisconsin, right?
You know....as in NOT Germany?
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Using bold also doesn't make you right.
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[reply What's this coming economic tsunami that you speak of? Honest question.
Bush and Obama have both borrowed money from China and Japan and put this country on the brink of financial collapse. Now we have the Democrats wanting to borrow more money all the while wanting to pull more money from the economy by raising taxes.
If our rating gets lowered, this country is screwed...
Any more questions you need answered?
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