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Where I live, we have dirt/gravel roads, our own road maintenance crew (2-men). Folks move out here from the big cities to live 'the country life' yet, they don't have a clue. Most of them drive on our roads like it's I-20 0r I-35. They keep the roads tore-up and blame everyone and every thing but themselves. We're in a severe droughtnd need moisture to work the roads. We've put-up speed limit signs that just get ignored. There's nothing in our covenants about 'speeding'. Since we are a 'private residential area', law enforcement can't help us. I had to laugh, though... the other day, one of our notorious speeders vehicle was on the side of the road with the rear axle sticking out of the housing! 
Chuck
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QuoteI'm sure it differs by state but when I owned in a community that had restrictive covenants I was basically told by a lawyer friend that they were all but unenforceable. I never had reason to test that and our homeowners association didn't seem very intent on enforcing anything in any case so I don't know how true that is.
That was in North Carolina.
Not from my limited experience. Almost bought a house in a subdivision on a pond. Started asking about parking an RV and was told a story of a guy in the neighborhood that drove a rig and got in trouble with the HOA even though he parked just the truck, not the trailer, in his own driveway. He ended up having to park it at a storage place.
F that. I'm in a neighborhood with no HOA. I could walk around my front yard naked and the only thing my neigbors could legally do is call the cops.
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oldwomanc6 38
The only answer is to live somewhere that there is enough land that you own (and your neighbors own same amount), where you can't see them walking around nekkid, and they can't see you. This neighborhood has no HOA, just the measly half-dozen covenants that were put in place when the land was sold off one parcel at a time. Everyone has a different builder, so all the houses are unique.
In this ideal/hypothetical neighborhood, everyone has a big pick-um-up truck (no Dakotas allowed).
All boats cost 100k +, so when they are parked, they look cool.
There enough garages that no one can see where the Jags, Porches, Vettes, and Lambos are hidden. 
There is, also, one vineyard, just so the place has class!
Gosh, I want to live there. *sigh*
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Sounds like the Perris Getto!
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BrokenR1 0
QuoteCan HOA's be imposed upon landowners or do they have to be set up during the initial subdivision?
They are either setup during the initial subdivision or can be entered into later. They can't just annex your property into one though.
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QuoteQuoteI'm sure it differs by state but when I owned in a community that had restrictive covenants I was basically told by a lawyer friend that they were all but unenforceable. I never had reason to test that and our homeowners association didn't seem very intent on enforcing anything in any case so I don't know how true that is.
That was in North Carolina.
Not from my limited experience. Almost bought a house in a subdivision on a pond. Started asking about parking an RV and was told a story of a guy in the neighborhood that drove a rig and got in trouble with the HOA even though he parked just the truck, not the trailer, in his own driveway. He ended up having to park it at a storage place.
F that. I'm in a neighborhood with no HOA. I could walk around my front yard naked and the only thing my neigbors could legally do is call the cops.
Like I said, I never had cause to test that advice. The HOA can always send you nasty letters. They can also attempt to find you. However, to truly enforce anything they need to go to court. Legal fees are expensive and courts (I was told) are loathe to enforce the covenants anyway. That said, if you moved into a neighborhood that said no RVs and then tried to park an RV there, well, that kind of makes you an ass. So I agree better just to avoid them.
The excessively nitpicky rules against Roses and guys trying to keep you from packing a parachute in your front yard, etc. just gives the whole concept a bad name.
"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"
kallend 1,679
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotePersonally I don't want my neighborhood to be full of mobile billboards for businesses.
That's meaningless unless you state how far you'd go with pushing your "want".
Is it your opinion that you don't like it?
I already stated that.
But you neglected to answer the rest of it, John. Is there a reason for that?
I answered - it's just that none of his multiple guess options were correct; pay more attention.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
kallend 1,679
Quote>What's the point of being a millionaire if you can't build a garage big enough for your
>truck, Ferrari, Bugatti, boat, etc.? Heck, I even have a hangar for my plane.
Oh, I don't know. Maybe some millionaires prefer to use their garages for building kitplanes, running the business that made them the million etc.
>Personally I don't want my neighborhood to be full of mobile billboards for businesses.
You're right! Outlaw logo trucks, bumper stickers and flags in your neighborhood. Why let your neighbors put their commercial interests, political views and governmental views out there? It's like they're jamming their bumpers straight into your eyes.
Save the eyes!
If millionaires don't want to live in my village they can buy a house in the cheaper one that's 2 miles away. Moving here and then complaining about the ordinances is like buying a house next to an airport and then complaining about jet noise.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
QuoteQuote>What's the point of being a millionaire if you can't build a garage big enough for your
>truck, Ferrari, Bugatti, boat, etc.? Heck, I even have a hangar for my plane.
Oh, I don't know. Maybe some millionaires prefer to use their garages for building kitplanes, running the business that made them the million etc.
>Personally I don't want my neighborhood to be full of mobile billboards for businesses.
You're right! Outlaw logo trucks, bumper stickers and flags in your neighborhood. Why let your neighbors put their commercial interests, political views and governmental views out there? It's like they're jamming their bumpers straight into your eyes.
Save the eyes!
If millionaires don't want to live in my village they can buy a house in the cheaper one that's 2 miles away. Moving here and then complaining about the ordinances is like buying a house next to an airport and then complaining about jet noise.
That's is!
We moved to an older section of the same town, old assn. rules, which are all but non-existent.
~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~
Yeah, if they just ignore the stupid rules it works out nice. But sooner or later someone comes along that insists on enforcing even the stupid rules.
A few years ago I got nasty letters about bald spots in the grass of my front lawn. I ended up covering the whole front yard with rock so I'd never have to worry about bald spots again. But anyway, I read the covenents and restrictions with a fine tooth comb, then drove by the homes of each and every HOA board member, and noted numerous discrepencies for each and every one of them - hoses laying out in the open, illegal signs, etc. Just little stuff, but nevertheless, against the rules. So I wrote them all letters duplicating their own nasty-gram format.
Shortly thereafter they published in the newsletter that official rule violation notices would have a special watermark on them, and that all others are fraudulent and should be ignored. Ha!
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