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QuoteLife is tough. It is a lot tougher if you are stupid." ~ John Wayne
Interesting. Your faith is based on an *inconnu* and on *John Wayne*. LMAO.
Since you are uneducated about the man and his philosophy.
"Marion Mitchell Morrison (born Marion Robert Morrison; May 26, 1907 – June 11, 1979), better known by his stage name John Wayne, was an American film actor, director and producer. He epitomized rugged masculinity and became an enduring American icon. He is famous for his distinctive voice, walk and height. He was also known for his conservative political views and his support, beginning in the 1950s, for anti-communist positions."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne
Folks in my age bracket considered him an American hero.
OK. Folks in your age pray to John Wayne. What kind of bible did he publish, btw?
QuoteHe is famous for his distinctive voice, walk and height...
Yup. Best preconditions to be a Jesus.
Jesus, how old are you? In which century do you (still) live?
dudeist skydiver # 3105
dj123 0
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Yeah, right. That is just what I thought.
Me, I am a plain ol' vanilla Christian.
Ron, I know of the Master ,Jesus the Christ.
I have studied the teachings of the Master, Jesus the Christ.
Ron, you are not "Christian".
No student of the Master would refer to himself in that manner for reasons obvious to true students of His teachings.
Peace and understanding to you,
DJ
Do you know the three requirements for being a Christian?
Ron, obviously you don't.
Here is something you have yet to understand; Christ isn't a person , Christ is a title.
To be a follower of a title makes no sense.
Would you like for me to recite some mandates of the early Roman church?
Far be it of me.
Why don't you tell us all? I mean, since you know the mind of God .., tell us his requirements!!!
Peace and understanding to you,
DJ
RonD1120 58
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Yeah, right. That is just what I thought.
Me, I am a plain ol' vanilla Christian.
Ron, I know of the Master ,Jesus the Christ.
I have studied the teachings of the Master, Jesus the Christ.
Ron, you are not "Christian".
No student of the Master would refer to himself in that manner for reasons obvious to true students of His teachings.
Peace and understanding to you,
DJ
Do you know the three requirements for being a Christian?
Ron, obviously you don't.
Here is something you have yet to understand; Christ isn't a person , Christ is a title.
To be a follower of a title makes no sense.
Would you like for me to recite some mandates of the early Roman church?
Far be it of me.
Why don't you tell us all? I mean, since you know the mind of God .., tell us his requirements!!!
Peace and understanding to you,
DJ
1. You must believe that Jesus Christ is God incarnate.
2. You must believe that He died on the cross as propitiation for your sins.
3. You must believe that He was resurrected from the dead and is alive today.
rehmwa 2
perhaps you both can just take pictures of your bibles and see which is bigger, then one can claim victory and judge the hell out of the other one for a week
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
billvon 2,471
>subjective belief system" to PMs?
On the plus side, just a few hundred years ago "true believers" would have been burning each other's villages to the ground and killing each other's families over whose God was the divine-est. Nowadays the arguments happen on the Internet (and the O'Reilly Factor.) Progress methinks.
RonD1120 58
Absolutely, I'm off to the sacrificial alter. I just can't resist jerking the chain.
dj123 0
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Yeah, right. That is just what I thought.
Me, I am a plain ol' vanilla Christian.
Ron, I know of the Master ,Jesus the Christ.
I have studied the teachings of the Master, Jesus the Christ.
Ron, you are not "Christian".
No student of the Master would refer to himself in that manner for reasons obvious to true students of His teachings.
Peace and understanding to you,
DJ
Do you know the three requirements for being a Christian?
Ron, obviously you don't.
Here is something you have yet to understand; Christ isn't a person , Christ is a title.
To be a follower of a title makes no sense.
Would you like for me to recite some mandates of the early Roman church?
Far be it of me.
Why don't you tell us all? I mean, since you know the mind of God .., tell us his requirements!!!
Peace and understanding to you,
DJ
1. You must believe that Jesus Christ is God incarnate.
2. You must believe that He died on the cross as propitiation for your sins.
3. You must believe that He was resurrected from the dead and is alive today.
Ron,
the Master,Jesus the Christ made none of these demands.
Simply he instructed us to love our neighbors as we love ourselves.
Here is something for you to think about; Jesus was not a god who became man. He is a Man who learned to become like God.
I mean really, if Jesus was God where was the sacrifice? If he was God he could have tuned out the pain as easily as turning water into wine.
As a God he would have known that he could not die, so where is the sacrifice?
Further ,as people saw him after the crucifiction, surely he did not die!
To die from crucifiction it would take almost a week,considering human physiology. Three hours or so just doesen't do it. And the Master,Jesus the Christ was a very healthy man at that time.
And speaking of *blood Sacrifice*, do you really believe that God the Creator is also God a.k.a. The Destroyer?
Demanding blood sacrifice from those he created?
I wish you understanding Ron.
I hope you will desist in leading those who might look to you as a leader you astray.
Peace,
DJ
dj123 0
Quoteany chance of moving this pile of "who is more devout to his subjective belief system" to PMs?
perhaps you both can just take pictures of your bibles and see which is bigger, then one can claim victory and judge the hell out of the other one for a week
Apparently this line of thought makes you uncomfortable,rehmwa.
I'm not sure why.
Here is something to consider before banishing discussion you are uncomfortable with to PMs; the title of the thread has to do with Freedom. More specifficlly aloss of Freedom.
The Master,Jesus the Christ was all about Freedom even if it meant one was outlawed.
Because really, if you aren't willing to accept the title of outlaw , can you trully ever be Free?
Peace and Understanding,
DJ
Blues,
DJ
Andy9o8 0
Both of you have completely hijacked the thread.
Not very Christ-like.
dj123 0
QuoteBoth of you have completely hijacked the thread.
Not very Christ-like.
The tread hasn't been "hijacked". There was no forced change in destination.
In fact the thread is on the exact same destination it has been on since the original post.
Peace and Understanding,
DJ
dj123 0
Quote>any chance of moving this pile of "who is more devout to his
>subjective belief system" to PMs?
On the plus side, just a few hundred years ago "true believers" would have been burning each other's villages to the ground and killing each other's families over whose God was the divine-est. Nowadays the arguments happen on the Internet (and the O'Reilly Factor.) Progress methinks.
Don't forget Afghanistan and Iraq ,Bill. I believe the crusade is going on there as well.
Blue Skies,
DJ
Royd 0
Go back to square one and try again....Maybe, read the Screwtape letters by C.S.Lewis.QuoteRon, you are not "Christian".
No student of the Master would refer to himself in that manner for reasons obvious to true students of His teachings.
Coreece 190
QuoteMaybe, read the Screwtape letters by C.S.Lewis.
Great piece of work...
Ralph Winter was to produce a "dark" film adaptation with Fox and Walden Media...but I'm afraid it fell through. I can't find an update and it has been removed from IMDB.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
dj123 0
QuoteI am of the Faith that believes that Man is not to judge.
Go back to square one and try again....Maybe, read the Screwtape letters by C.S.Lewis.QuoteRon, you are not "Christian".
No student of the Master would refer to himself in that manner for reasons obvious to true students of His teachings.
Obviously you don't understand either,Royd.
Very few do.
I made no judgement.
Ron isn't "Christian" and neither are you nor anyone else.
See, "The Christ" is a title gained by one who has completed a certain course of study .
You can be a follower of The Master ,Jesus the Christ. You can't be a "Christian" any more than you could be a Doctorian, or a Bachelorian.
An interesting read may be Dale Palmers' True Esoteric Traditions.
Unlimited Ceilings,
DJ
It's in a state of flux. For example, some courts will say that looking thru a window with binoculars is ok, while others would say it has to be naked eye (or if camera, without magnification). There's the factor of 52 jurisdictions plus the federal courts, compounded by the human factor of different judges ruling differently depending on their own personal predilections.
On the bright side, it makes for plenty of work for lawyers.
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