turtlespeed 212 #51 July 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteI haven't seen ANY demonstrated leadership ability. If you would read for comprehension instead of just positioning for your next attack, I'd be more inclined to lend credence to your comments. Well after all the exemplary leadership by the rePUBIClown presidents we have had in the last 50 years.. I am sure you dont even know what it looks like when you see it. Because bent over and bowing is always better than standing up and respect.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #52 July 19, 2010 Quote Quote Quote I haven't seen ANY demonstrated leadership ability. If you would read for comprehension instead of just positioning for your next attack, I'd be more inclined to lend credence to your comments. Well after all the exemplary leadership by the rePUBIClown presidents we have had in the last 50 years.. I am sure you dont even know what it looks like when you see it. Because bent over and bowing is always better than standing up and respect. How many democratic gay scandals have we had in this millenia??? Somehow I dont think Obama is going there, since unlike so many of the Family Values types who doth protest way too much.... and also .. since Michelle is taking care of business Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #53 July 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteI haven't seen ANY demonstrated leadership ability. If you would read for comprehension instead of just positioning for your next attack, I'd be more inclined to lend credence to your comments. Well after all the exemplary leadership by the rePUBIClown presidents we have had in the last 50 years.. I am sure you dont even know what it looks like when you see it. Because bent over and bowing is always better than standing up and respect. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many people who aren't ardent conservative partisans who equate GW Bush as president with "respect", and (FWIW) virtually nobody outside the US who does. In the world of grownups, "bully" does not equal "respect." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #54 July 19, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote I haven't seen ANY demonstrated leadership ability. If you would read for comprehension instead of just positioning for your next attack, I'd be more inclined to lend credence to your comments. Well after all the exemplary leadership by the rePUBIClown presidents we have had in the last 50 years.. I am sure you dont even know what it looks like when you see it. Because bent over and bowing is always better than standing up and respect. How many democratic gay scandals have we had in this millenia??? Somehow I dont think Obama is going there, since unlike so many of the Family Values types who doth protest way too much.... and also .. since Michelle is taking care of business So knee jerk reaction for you is to correlate Obama, bent over and gay. Got it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #55 July 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI haven't seen ANY demonstrated leadership ability. If you would read for comprehension instead of just positioning for your next attack, I'd be more inclined to lend credence to your comments. Well after all the exemplary leadership by the rePUBIClown presidents we have had in the last 50 years.. I am sure you dont even know what it looks like when you see it. Because bent over and bowing is always better than standing up and respect. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many people who aren't ardent conservative partisans who equate GW Bush as president with "respect", and (FWIW) virtually nobody outside the US who does. In the world of grownups, "bully" does not equal "respect." You assume that I was referring to GWB.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #56 July 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI haven't seen ANY demonstrated leadership ability. If you would read for comprehension instead of just positioning for your next attack, I'd be more inclined to lend credence to your comments. Well after all the exemplary leadership by the rePUBIClown presidents we have had in the last 50 years.. I am sure you dont even know what it looks like when you see it. Because bent over and bowing is always better than standing up and respect. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many people who aren't ardent conservative partisans who equate GW Bush as president with "respect", and (FWIW) virtually nobody outside the US who does. In the world of grownups, "bully" does not equal "respect." You assume that I was referring to GWB. No, I assume that you're referring to the "bowing" connected with Obama that gave conservatives on this forum an erection lasting longer than 4 hours* at the opportunity to get a bash in at him. And to that, I'm saying, via one illustrative example, if you will, that your concept of the kind of president who does and does not command "respect" is something I strongly disagree with. *Call your doctor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #57 July 19, 2010 Quote No, I assume that you're referring to the "bowing" connected with Obama that gave conservatives on this forum an erection lasting longer than 4 hours* at the opportunity to get a bash in at him. And to that, I'm saying, via one illustrative example, if you will, that your concept of the kind of president who does and does not command "respect" is something I strongly disagree with. So you advocate that the POTUS bowed. I get that. I am sorry if you don't think that the President of the United States should not "Bow".I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #58 July 19, 2010 Quote Quote No, I assume that you're referring to the "bowing" connected with Obama that gave conservatives on this forum an erection lasting longer than 4 hours* at the opportunity to get a bash in at him. And to that, I'm saying, via one illustrative example, if you will, that your concept of the kind of president who does and does not command "respect" is something I strongly disagree with. So you advocate that the POTUS bowed. I get that. I am sorry if you don't think that the President of the United States should not "Bow". Ok Ok... I know you would much prefer to go back to those Manly man to man kisses but he can't be there for you any more Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #59 July 19, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I haven't seen ANY demonstrated leadership ability. If you would read for comprehension instead of just positioning for your next attack, I'd be more inclined to lend credence to your comments. Well after all the exemplary leadership by the rePUBIClown presidents we have had in the last 50 years.. I am sure you dont even know what it looks like when you see it. Because bent over and bowing is always better than standing up and respect. How many democratic gay scandals have we had in this millenia??? Somehow I dont think Obama is going there, since unlike so many of the Family Values types who doth protest way too much.... and also .. since Michelle is taking care of business So knee jerk reaction for you is to correlate Obama, bent over and gay. Got it. She Seems to have missed the point completly it ment he bows to other leaders! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #60 July 19, 2010 QuoteSo you advocate that the POTUS bowed. So you advocate beating your wife. Debate like an adult and we can have an intelligent discussion. Otherwise, don't waste my time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #61 July 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteSo you advocate that the POTUS bowed. So you advocate beating your wife. Debate like an adult and we can have an intelligent discussion. Otherwise, don't waste my time. I agree. However, My statement has about 100% more of a chance of being true compared to your statement. My statement is based on what you posted. QuoteAnd to that, I'm saying, via one illustrative example, if you will, that your concept of the kind of president who does and does not command "respect" is something I strongly disagree with. . . . It seems pretty obvious by the above statement that you are conveying that you strongly disagree with the concept of a POTUS that will not "Bow".I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #62 July 19, 2010 QuoteHow can he do better? Well for starters. his pr dept sucks. Marketing won the election and the honeymoon. If that's not doing well, he has NOTHING else left - the rest is an empty shell. PR is his only club in the bag. We elected a poster and a series of sound bites - now we're surprised we got thin air for leadership? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #63 July 19, 2010 Can anyone post examples of Obama's lack of leadership (please not related to bowing to foreign leaders, that horse is covered in flies) and contrast them with examples of Presidential leadership they admire? I'm really not seeing how Obama's leadership has been any different from any other modern President's. I'm not talking about his policies, you can disagree with those all day long. I just don't see the leap to a lack of leadership. Here's my thinking: you can't simultaneously decry all the policies that Obama has successfully put into law (healthcare, finance reform, stimulus) and then also complain that his leadership is ineffective. It's either one or the other. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #64 July 19, 2010 Quote Can anyone post examples of Obama's lack of leadership......... I'm really not seeing how Obama's leadership has been any different from any other modern Presidents'. QED - I'll also be adding you to the Obama = "GWB+" list {then running off to the other room to chortle and claim victory due to contrivance and misinterpretation of SC comments - everbody's doing it} and if you argue, I'll just point you at the misuse of the apostrophe - don't make me play that card...don't do it ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #65 July 19, 2010 (posting for others) ah Ha!! rehmwa has no real answer other than pap and noise - VICTORY IS not his, it's MINE!! (just getting ahead of the standard post pattern) {{insert extensive cut and pastes on non-related material from fringe websites}} ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #66 July 19, 2010 Quoteand if you argue, I'll just point you at the misuse of the apostrophe - don't make me play that card...don't do it Well, good sir, I've edited my apostrophe mistake, and will now vehemently deny I ever made it. If you bring it up again, I will demand ad nauseum that you provide links, and when you are unable to do so will harp on it in every thread you post to. Of course, I will not name you directly, just reference, "A certain poster.." but all the cool kids will know who I'm talking about. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #67 July 19, 2010 so be it and the games begin {random link to the bunny/pancake photo - because only 2 posters every even open open up links that don't have 'boobies' somewhere in the text} ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #68 July 19, 2010 Quoteso be it and the games begin {random link to the bunny/pancake photo - because only 2 posters every even open open up links that don't have 'boobies' somewhere in the text} Your syntax is atrocious! I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,647 #69 July 19, 2010 Quoteso be it and the games begin {random link to the bunny/pancake photo - because only 2 posters every even open open up links that don't have 'boobies' somewhere in the text} Is that "ever even" or "every evening"? Jus' askin'.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #70 July 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteSo you advocate that the POTUS bowed. So you advocate beating your wife. Debate like an adult and we can have an intelligent discussion. Otherwise, don't waste my time. So, talking about erections lasting over 4 hours is "debating like an adult', then?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #71 July 19, 2010 Quote can you make that clicky - it doesn't work (what were the rest of you posting about?) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #72 July 19, 2010 QuoteQuote...2 posters every even open open up links that don't have 'boobies' somewhere in the text} Is that "ever even" or "every evening"? Jus' askin'. ok - let's parse it out for the simple minded in the crowd - you know who you are (or maybe you don't).,,,, Every Even Open Open Every = "ever" but not really = hardly ever Even = smooth and level = Even Open Open = multiple open = opens thusly "hardly ever even opens" up links.......yada yada sigh - it's not really my fault you don't do the thinking up front ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #73 July 20, 2010 Bump, because I actually want to here people's responses to my question: QuoteCan anyone post examples of Obama's lack of leadership (please not related to bowing to foreign leaders, that horse is covered in flies) and contrast them with examples of Presidential leadership they admire? I'm really not seeing how Obama's leadership has been any different from any other modern President's. I'm not talking about his policies, you can disagree with those all day long. I just don't see the leap to a lack of leadership. Here's my thinking: you can't simultaneously decry all the policies that Obama has successfully put into law (healthcare, finance reform, stimulus) and then also complain that his leadership is ineffective. It's either one or the other. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #74 July 20, 2010 QuoteBump, because I actually want to here people's responses to my question: QuoteCan anyone post examples of Obama's lack of leadership (please not related to bowing to foreign leaders, that horse is covered in flies) and contrast them with examples of Presidential leadership they admire? I'm really not seeing how Obama's leadership has been any different from any other modern President's. I'm not talking about his policies, you can disagree with those all day long. I just don't see the leap to a lack of leadership. Here's my thinking: you can't simultaneously decry all the policies that Obama has successfully put into law (healthcare, finance reform, stimulus) and then also complain that his leadership is ineffective. It's either one or the other. AS IF... Dude.. here is the real reason Quote He's a baaaaaaad leader....... the bug brain says so every day when he sends me messages...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbwing 0 #75 July 20, 2010 Sadly, this forum has ended up as being nothing but a study of extremes. People post useless/inaccurate threads just to get a reaction out of others. Logical discourse is long since dead - if it ever existed at all around here. In short, I wouldn't hold out much hope for a reasonable answer to your question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
