Icon134 0
I can answer this question... when I was younger I had an interest in lockpicks, locksmithing, etc... mostly because I was curious how locks, combination and based... locks functioned.QuoteYOu guys are taking my question way out of context. I was simply asking how it is a hobby. Never heard of anyone picking locks as a hobby is all.
But it's the same interest that makes me wonder how my car runs/work, why a plane flys/etc... and is why I grew up to be an engineer/scientist.
Scott
DaVinci 0
QuoteYou buy picks? I just sort of assumed no one sold them; I've always made my own.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/SearchResults.aspx?catid=431&site=All+Products&num=10&q=Lock+picks
DaVinci 0
QuoteFor that matter, aren't liberals more likely to think drugs should be legal to own, compared to conservatives? I.e. punish the actions, not the ownership?
In most cases correct. I have always wondered why most liberals flip when it becomes a gun issue?
To me.... A liberal is for personal property and people staying out of their business....... But that does not seem to apply to firearms.
Conservatives don't think people should have many rights.. (gays, pot....ect) but thinks people should be allowed to have guns.
Guns is one of the few issues the rolls seem to flip.
rehmwa 2
QuoteTo me.... A liberal
"to me.....{insert personal subjective label here}" there's the problem right there
90% of people want to keep their money and spend it the way they want to. They don't really care about what others choose to do as long as it doesn't bother them. They want the gov to intrude maybe on about 5% of issues.
10% (right or left wing) just can't help but push 90% of their own biases onto others and think the government should make it happen on all the issues.
so two problems -
that second group sucks all the time
that first group's 5%-ers don't overlap so we have a lot of people passionate about a handle of very minor crap the rest don't care about
...
Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
wmw999 2,150
Which is why sometimes a benevolent dictatorship or monarchy, with a really smart dictator, is better managed than a republic or democracy.Quoteso two problems -
that second group sucks all the time
that first group's 5%-ers don't overlap so we have a lot of people passionate about a handle of very minor crap the rest don't care about
But then those guys go and have children (or don't, as in the case of QE1), and the kids are never the same as the parents
Wendy P.
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QuoteI was simply asking how it is a hobby. Never heard of anyone picking locks as a hobby is all.
Fair, but some don't see skydiving as a hobby.
QuoteI dont think that people should be able to own lock picking tools unless they have a good valid reason for it.
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I don't see how you can compare lock picks to owning a weapon based on my previous post though.
This is how.... Some want to blame the object, some want to blame the person using the object.
A gun or a lock pick set are both just tools. They do not do anything themselves. Both can be used for good, or bad depending only on the person using them.
Some think guns and lock sets should be banned since they can be used by people to do bad things. I tend to think that either should be allowed and we should only punish the actions of the people that use them.
Pick your own locks, help people get into their cars, enter lock pick comps.... Cool. Use them to break into places and steal stuff.... Bad.
billvon 2,435
>themselves. Both can be used for good, or bad depending only on the
>person using them.
That's also true of cars, airplanes, spoons and enriched uranium cores. It would surely be foolish to regulate them all the same way, though.
DaVinci 0
QuoteThat's also true of cars, airplanes, spoons and enriched uranium cores. It would surely be foolish to regulate them all the same way, though.
True, but cars, airplanes, spoons and uranium cores are not covered in the Constitution..... Just like lock picks are not.
But the main factor should be to regulate the activities, not the items.
There is no harm in you having a lock pick set, or someone like you having a gun.
billvon 2,435
>having a gun.
Or having an airplane or a car. But that's because I've been trained in how to operate them, and am physically able to do so. There is a lot of potential harm in allowing a blind man to drive a car on public roads, or giving a man prone to seizures a pilot's license.
Now, give any of those people a spoon, and that's not a big deal. Which is why cars and airplanes (and guns) are regulated differently than spoons.
Andy9o8 0
QuoteThere is a lot of potential harm in allowing a blind man to drive a car on public roads,
You've just insulted half the State of Florida.
The111 1
QuoteThere is a lot of potential harm in allowing a blind man to drive a car on public roads, or giving a man prone to seizures a pilot's license.
Your point is understood, but I'm not sure where you're going with it. What's the danger in a blind man having a lockpick set?
Is it your position that lockpicks should be regulated more, or less, strictly than guns? To me the answer is obvious: less. Much less potential to do harm in the hands of the untrained.
billvon 2,435
Very little, since being blind does not make it unsafe to operate a lockpick.
>Is it your position that lockpicks should be regulated more, or less,
>strictly than guns? To me the answer is obvious: less.
Agreed.
DaVinci 0
QuoteOr having an airplane or a car. But that's because I've been trained in how to operate them, and am physically able to do so.
But the regulations are on how you USE them.... A person without a drivers license or a pilots license can BUY and OWN a car or a plane.
Also a car or a plane is not in the Bill of Rights.... Firearms are.
Shotgun 1
QuoteQuoteThere is a lot of potential harm in allowing a blind man to drive a car on public roads, or giving a man prone to seizures a pilot's license.
Your point is understood, but I'm not sure where you're going with it. What's the danger in a blind man having a lockpick set?
Further, what's the danger in allowing a blind man to own a car? It's not the owning of the car that is dangerous. And the same with a non-pilot owning a plane. Is it required to have a driver's license to own a car? Or a pilot's license to own a plane? I don't think it is.
That looks like a PA to me!
Any words compiled together in a sentence look like a PA to you.
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