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Ice now forms at 34 degrees

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Either you posted the wrong link, they changed the content, or I'm deaf. There was nothing about ice forming at 34 degrees.
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In the good ol' days, water was not allowed to freeze until it got down to 32 degrees.

But thanks to our progressively permissive society, water is allowed to do whatever it wants up to 34 degrees, and no one cares! Where is the outrage??
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Ice frequently forms at above 32 degrees. I see it every winter when there is frost on the ground ad it can be 35 degrees.

One tyically sees it on clear nights. Because of the lack of clouds, radiative cooling occurs. Dew point is hit. Moisture in the air condenses but without the clouds, the heat loss is so rapid that it forms frost - even though the temperature is above freezing.

It's kinda like saying water boiling at 200 degrees is reedeeculous. But water boils at a temperature dependant upon atmospheric pressure, to name but one factor. Different conditions affect the phase transition of water.


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> Moisture in the air condenses but without the clouds, the heat loss is so
>rapid that it forms frost - even though the temperature is above freezing.

Uh, no. That rapid heat loss reduces the temperature of the water (or the surface) to below freezing, which is why it freezes. (That's why frost will damage some plants - because the temperature of the leaf is indeed below freezing, and water inside the cells freezes and ruptures the cell membranes.)

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> Moisture in the air condenses but without the clouds, the heat loss is so
>rapid that it forms frost - even though the temperature is above freezing.

Uh, no. That rapid heat loss reduces the temperature of the water (or the surface) to below freezing, which is why it freezes. (That's why frost will damage some plants - because the temperature of the leaf is indeed below freezing, and water inside the cells freezes and ruptures the cell membranes.)



The water (or the surface) does not have to be below freezing(32 degrees) to freeze, if the surrounding pressure is not atmoshperic. But yes an exothermic reaction will lower water's, as well as other things, temperature compared to its surroundings.
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Bwhaaaaaa Only 3rd world countries use farenheit Tongue



34 degrees is time for a swim. Shorts and tshirt and an icecream at the beach?
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Bwhaaaaaa Only 3rd world countries use farenheit Tongue



34 degrees is time for a swim. Shorts and tshirt and an icecream at the beach?




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Where I grew up 34 degrees F is swimming weather.
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It's kinda like saying water boiling at 200 degrees is reedeeculous. But water boils at a temperature dependant upon atmospheric pressure, to name but one factor. Different conditions affect the phase transition of water.



Including the radius of curvature of the interface.

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