Coyotes kill woman on hike in Canadian park

[steve1 5]

Coyotes sometimes get newborn calves. That is a worry in the Spring. They seldom take on older calves. At least I've never heard of a rancher losing an older calf to coyotes. I live in beef country. I'm sure a coyote would love to take one down, but they have difficulty killing an animal that big.

Coyotes are bad sheep killers. They are particularly hard on lambs. I knew a lot of sheep ranchers who used the 10/80 poison back when it was legal. It also killed a lot of eagles and other critters.

Now many sheep ranchers have some huge sheep dogs that live right out with the sheep. I've seen other flocks that have a burro to chase away coyotes.

I enjoy hearing coyotes. It might be at night, or right around sun up, a bunch will open up howling and yipping. Kind of hard to describe the feelings that conjures up.

A coyotes size may be deceptive. In the Northern climates they grow long fur. Once they are skinned out, they don't look nearly as large.

I've never killed a coyote that isn't covered with thousands of fleas. They must have a terrible time coping with that. It's not wise to carry a dead coyote over your shoulder.

I have to sight my rifles in different (to hit lower) when I hunt coyotes. Normally I sight my rifles in, three inches high at a hundred yards. Mid-range trajectory would be almost four inches high. That puts you a hair low at 300 yards.

Sighting a rifle in that high, is enough to completely miss a coyote. A couple inches high at a hundred works better for me.....

[Andy9o8 1]

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It's not wise to carry a dead coyote over your shoulder.

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[warpedskydiver 0]

it is also not wise to carry a live coyote over your shoulder either....cityboy

[Andy9o8 1]

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it is also not wise to carry a live coyote over your shoulder either....cityboy

I'm a suburban boy. Every time I drive past a 2-story house in a well-groomed tract development, I get this almost visceral urge to get back to my down-home roots.

[kallend 1,882]

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It's not wise to carry a dead coyote over your shoulder.

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Well, there goes THAT fashion statement.

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[billvon 2,792]

>I'm a suburban boy. Every time I drive past a 2-story house in a
>well-groomed tract development, I get this almost visceral urge to get
>back to my down-home roots.

We grew up in the woods outside a small farm. For a few years my baby sister referred to all animals as "lambs." ("Yams" actually.) I still remember her coming running into the living room periodically saying "Mom, there's a yam outside!" We'd all then take a look at what interesting new animal had wandered into our yard. They ranged from pigs and calves to deer all the way down to porcupines, skunks and raccoons. (And we had some very big skunks.)

We even found a great dane in our yard that way one day; we ended up adopting him for a year until we could track down who he had run away from.

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I'm going to have to ask my rancher friend out at the lake whether he has lost any calves to coyotes as the three that I saw were a couple of miles from where he keeps his cattle.

I love listening to them yipping at night but my appreciation for their wildness is now going to be tempered by caution where my boys are concerned.

I am against the carrying of firearms in National Parks. Our Parks (speaking as a Canadian on Canadian parks) were created to preserve the wilderness for future generations. If you aren't willing to accept the risks of traveling unarmed in a National Park that contains animals that can kill and eat you.....then don't go in them. The preservation of habitat is crucial to a large species such as the grizzly. They don't need to be at risk inside the parks that should be treated as their refuge.

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Murray

"No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey

[steve1 5]

I love National Parks. Where else can you see wildlife or country like that?

We rode through Denali Park once on a bus. I kept thinking, wouldn't it be cool to hike back into some of that wild country. We picked up some back packers on that same trip who had covered miles of back country in Denali. They had one scary bear story after another. (and these were grizzlies).

Would I go on a hike like that without a gun?.... Probably. What can I say....I'm a sky diver too. It would be worth the risk!

[JohnRich 4]

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I enjoy hearing coyotes. It might be at night, or right around sun up, a bunch will open up howling and yipping. Kind of hard to describe the feelings that conjures up.

Maybe it's the idea that it's reassuring to know that there are still places in America where wild animals roam free, instead of being killed off or controlled by man. I want that wild nature.

[cliffwhite 0]

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I carry a gun everytime I enter a national park.

I wasn't aware firearms were allowed in national parks in US; they are not in Canada.

Yes,Andrewwhyte, you have the Right to carry a firearm wherever you wish so long as you aren't violating the Rights of another.

Blues,
Cliff

2muchTruth

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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Yes,Andrewwhyte, you have the Right to carry a firearm wherever you wish so long as you aren't violating the Rights of another.

Blues,
Cliff

Oh bullshit! You may wish it to be that way, and you may believe the constitution to be written that way, but it simply doesn't play that way. You are not allowed to carry a firearm at school. You are not allowed to carry a firearm at court. there are many places it is simply not allowed. We just draw the line in different places in different countries.

[billvon 2,792]

>Yes,Andrewwhyte, you have the Right to carry a firearm wherever you
>wish so long as you aren't violating the Rights of another.

Give that a shot (pun intended) at an airport or courthouse and let us know how it goes.

[cliffwhite 0]

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>Yes,Andrewwhyte, you have the Right to carry a firearm wherever you
>wish so long as you aren't violating the Rights of another.

Give that a shot (pun intended) at an airport or courthouse and let us know how it goes.

I haven't had a problem so far. Has anybody else?

Blues,
Cliff

2muchTruth

[cliffwhite 0]

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Yes,Andrewwhyte, you have the Right to carry a firearm wherever you wish so long as you aren't violating the Rights of another.

Blues,
Cliff

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Yes,Andrewwhyte, you have the Right to carry a firearm wherever you wish so long as you aren't violating the Rights of another.

Blues,
Cliff

Oh bullshit! You may wish it to be that way, and you may believe the constitution to be written that way, but it simply doesn't play that way. You are not allowed to carry a firearm at school. You are not allowed to carry a firearm at court. there are many places it is simply not allowed. We just draw the line in different places in different countries.

Don't bother trying to engage cliff in any sort of rational discussion. It's like arguing with a bag of old doorknobs...

[wolfriverjoe 1,485]

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Yes,Andrewwhyte, you have the Right to carry a firearm wherever you wish so long as you aren't violating the Rights of another.

Blues,
Cliff

Oh bullshit! You may wish it to be that way, and you may believe the constitution to be written that way, but it simply doesn't play that way. You are not allowed to carry a firearm at school. You are not allowed to carry a firearm at court. there are many places it is simply not allowed. We just draw the line in different places in different countries.

Not allowed to isn't the same as can't.

He can carry anywhere he wants to as long as he is willing to accept the consequences (or is in denial that he will get caught).

However, as a law-abiding gun-owner I choose to respect the rules society has set as to where I may and where I may not be armed

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[cliffwhite 0]

[replyHe can carry anywhere he wants to as long as he is willing to accept the consequences (or is in denial that he will get caught).

However, as a law-abiding gun-owner I choose to respect the rules society has set as to where I may and where I may not be armed

[wolfriverjoe 1,485]

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[replyHe can carry anywhere he wants to as long as he is willing to accept the consequences (or is in denial that he will get caught).

However, as a law-abiding gun-owner I choose to respect the rules society has set as to where I may and where I may not be armed

You, wolfriverjoe, are free to give up your Rights as you wish.
I would hope that you respect ,honor, and support my Right to carry a firearm whereever I damn well please.

Blues,
Cliff

[cliffwhite 0]

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Umm... No.

Not only no, but fuck no.

By your choice to carry anywhere you please, you are demonstrating a lack of judgement that tells me you shouldn't be carrying a gun at all IMO.

[kallend 1,882]

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Umm... No.

Not only no, but fuck no.

By your choice to carry anywhere you please, you are demonstrating a lack of judgement that tells me you shouldn't be carrying a gun at all IMO.

Uhmmm , wolfriverjoe,
It is my Right to carry wherever I please.
Do you or do you not support the exercise of everyone of my Rights?

Blues,
Cliff

[cliffwhite 0]

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Umm... No.

Not only no, but fuck no.

By your choice to carry anywhere you please, you are demonstrating a lack of judgement that tells me you shouldn't be carrying a gun at all IMO.

Uhmmm , wolfriverjoe,
It is my Right to carry wherever I please.
Do you or do you not support the exercise of everyone of my Rights?

Blues,
Cliff

The Supreme Court (Heller decision) does not agree with you.

[billvon 2,792]

>It is my Right to carry wherever I please.

No, it's not. You do not have the right to carry it into my house.