AggieDave 6 #176 March 2, 2009 Quoteone specifically designed for hunting and not an adaptation of a military weapon They are all literally adaptations of military weapons. Literally every advancement in firearms. Same with the history of the sword, the knife and the axe. It starts off simply enough, then shown promise in battle, then improved for battle then adapted for civilian use. Its been like this for thousands of years and will likely continue long after we have turned to dust.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #177 March 2, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Your statement that you know better than the Supreme Court what the Constitution means? Yes, I'm sure we ALL believe that you've established that as a fact. Why don't you write to Scalia and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about? I'm sure you can put him straight. Not only are you establishing that you're arguing simply to be contrary, but that you also lack fundamental reading skills. That wasn't what I stated at all. Really? Your post (#153 in this thread) seems to say exactly that. Then I guess that establishes my previous statement to be accurate. RIF Whatever floats your boat. You know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court. OK, not much point in discussing this any further.If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martlet 0 #178 March 2, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Your statement that you know better than the Supreme Court what the Constitution means? Yes, I'm sure we ALL believe that you've established that as a fact. Why don't you write to Scalia and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about? I'm sure you can put him straight. Not only are you establishing that you're arguing simply to be contrary, but that you also lack fundamental reading skills. That wasn't what I stated at all. Really? Your post (#153 in this thread) seems to say exactly that. Then I guess that establishes my previous statement to be accurate. RIF Whatever floats your boat. You know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court. OK, not much point in discussing this any further. Any further? You haven't "discussed" it at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #179 March 2, 2009 Quote The M4 - it's like Barbie for guys! (and some girls) ~Actually . . .~ Origin of Barbie Note the last 2 lines. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #180 March 2, 2009 I'm thinking I probably shouldn't try to access that site from a work computer... whatcha think? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #181 March 2, 2009 Quote I'm thinking I probably shouldn't try to access that site from a work computer... whatcha think? It's just words. Sorry no pictures... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt.Slog 0 #182 March 2, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Your statement that you know better than the Supreme Court what the Constitution means? Yes, I'm sure we ALL believe that you've established that as a fact. Why don't you write to Scalia and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about? I'm sure you can put him straight. Not only are you establishing that you're arguing simply to be contrary, but that you also lack fundamental reading skills. That wasn't what I stated at all. Really? Your post (#153 in this thread) seems to say exactly that. Then I guess that establishes my previous statement to be accurate. RIF Whatever floats your boat. You know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court. OK, not much point in discussing this any further. Any further? You haven't "discussed" it at all. What's to discuss? Your assertion that the SCOTUS doesn't understand the Constitution is absurd and unworthy of ny discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martlet 0 #183 March 3, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Your statement that you know better than the Supreme Court what the Constitution means? Yes, I'm sure we ALL believe that you've established that as a fact. Why don't you write to Scalia and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about? I'm sure you can put him straight. Not only are you establishing that you're arguing simply to be contrary, but that you also lack fundamental reading skills. That wasn't what I stated at all. Really? Your post (#153 in this thread) seems to say exactly that. Then I guess that establishes my previous statement to be accurate. RIF Whatever floats your boat. You know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court. OK, not much point in discussing this any further. Any further? You haven't "discussed" it at all. What's to discuss? Your assertion that the SCOTUS doesn't understand the Constitution is absurd and unworthy of ny discussion. Reading is Fundamental. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #184 March 3, 2009 QuoteQuoteExtremely well put. There is a reason the first line to the Oath of Enlistment reads.... I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic Our military will be at serious odds when the order comes down to kill our own citizens. *** Really ? Are you aware of a survey of USN Marines conducted a few years back asking them if they would follow orders to collect weapons from households inside the US? Obviously by your post I know you haven't. Blues, Cliff Would sure love to see this USN Marines survey you speak of. Can you provide a link?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Capt.Slog 0 #185 March 3, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Your statement that you know better than the Supreme Court what the Constitution means? Yes, I'm sure we ALL believe that you've established that as a fact. Why don't you write to Scalia and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about? I'm sure you can put him straight. Not only are you establishing that you're arguing simply to be contrary, but that you also lack fundamental reading skills. That wasn't what I stated at all. Really? Your post (#153 in this thread) seems to say exactly that. Then I guess that establishes my previous statement to be accurate. RIF Whatever floats your boat. You know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court. OK, not much point in discussing this any further. Any further? You haven't "discussed" it at all. What's to discuss? Your assertion that the SCOTUS doesn't understand the Constitution is absurd and unworthy of ny discussion. Reading is Fundamental. [url "http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3499005#3499005"] INDEED! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites martlet 0 #186 March 3, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Your statement that you know better than the Supreme Court what the Constitution means? Yes, I'm sure we ALL believe that you've established that as a fact. Why don't you write to Scalia and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about? I'm sure you can put him straight. Not only are you establishing that you're arguing simply to be contrary, but that you also lack fundamental reading skills. That wasn't what I stated at all. Really? Your post (#153 in this thread) seems to say exactly that. Then I guess that establishes my previous statement to be accurate. RIF Whatever floats your boat. You know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court. OK, not much point in discussing this any further. Any further? You haven't "discussed" it at all. What's to discuss? Your assertion that the SCOTUS doesn't understand the Constitution is absurd and unworthy of ny discussion. Reading is Fundamental. [url "http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3499005#3499005"] INDEED! Comprehension, my child. It's all in the comprehension. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Laszloimage 0 #187 March 3, 2009 Terrible. In a free country everybody should have right to walk around with loaded assault rifles or fully automatic weapons to ready to defend themselves. Just like in Afghanistan people can walk around with AKs or in Israel with Uzis. Yes, I want that freedom too! Dam liberals… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #188 March 3, 2009 Quote Terrible. In a free country everybody should have right to walk around with loaded assault rifles or fully automatic weapons to ready to defend themselves. Just like in Afghanistan people can walk around with AKs or in Israel with Uzis. Yes, I want that freedom too! Dam liberals… Nice strawman - any more foolishness to share with the class?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Capt.Slog 0 #189 March 3, 2009 What we read was clearly not what you think you wrote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Capt.Slog 0 #190 March 3, 2009 Quote Quote Terrible. In a free country everybody should have right to walk around with loaded assault rifles or fully automatic weapons to ready to defend themselves. Just like in Afghanistan people can walk around with AKs or in Israel with Uzis. Yes, I want that freedom too! Dam liberals… Nice strawman - any more foolishness to share with the class? That's sarcasm, not straw man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #191 March 3, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Terrible. In a free country everybody should have right to walk around with loaded assault rifles or fully automatic weapons to ready to defend themselves. Just like in Afghanistan people can walk around with AKs or in Israel with Uzis. Yes, I want that freedom too! Dam liberals… Nice strawman - any more foolishness to share with the class? That's sarcasm, not straw man. I treated it with the respect it deserved - none.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Laszloimage 0 #192 March 3, 2009 Thanks man! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Laszloimage 0 #193 March 3, 2009 Should people have assault rifles in Kosovo too? Which etnic group should carry them the Serbs or the Albanians? They have a right for the the freedom too don't they? Would that make you feel safer over there if they still have those guns? (I'm asking these questions because your profile says you're there) Burek is good food for sure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #194 March 3, 2009 Quote Should people have assault rifles in Kosovo too? Which etnic group should carry them the Serbs or the Albanians? They have a right for the the freedom too don't they? Would that make you feel safer over there if they still have those guns? (I'm asking these questions because your profile says you're there) Burek is good food for sure Seeing as how they're trying to join the EU, probably neither - can't have the serfs owning those icky GUNS, now can they?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #195 March 3, 2009 Quote I've made this point before and I'll make it again; if Pro-gun people don't like "assault weapons" being banned based on being "scary looking", then they should work with the gun control advocates and educate them so that there is a more reasonable criteria. and this point doesn't get any more intelligent with repetition. The leadership of the gun control (read: ban) movement does not require education. They are fully aware that the AWB accomplished nothing, that the 'plastic' Glock cannot go through airport scanners undetected. There is no need or point to educating such liars. The civilian gun industry is a small one - constantly banning and changing the requirements makes guns either most expensive or less profitable, eventually making them out of reach for the lower classes. The class action lawsuits was another strategy to bleed them, up till the NRA and the GOP got that eliminated via legislation. AWB2 is a trial balloon - if it goes well, the gun grabbers will probably go for broke, and will probably relearn the lessons of the 2000 election. But with the mess that the GOP has made of itself, the price for seizing civil rights might still be bearable. The problem for Obama is that with the state of the economy, I don't think he can afford to gamble political capital on nonsense legislation until everyone is feeling good again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #196 March 3, 2009 If you start looking at the economy, the gun industry is one of the very few industries that is absolutely booming right now. Record sales in every area. On the flip side, they all have Uncle O to thank for it, since there's been all of this talk about bans and much higher taxes on ammo. Everyone is getting what they want to get now, before they can't in a couple more months.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Krip 2 #197 March 3, 2009 Quote If you start looking at the economy, the gun industry is one of the very few industries that is absolutely booming right now. Record sales in every area. On the flip side, they all have Uncle O to thank for it, since there's been all of this talk about bans and much higher taxes on ammo. Everyone is getting what they want to get now, before they can't in a couple more months. The retail part of the gun industry is no longer booming since demand for their goods has exeeded the supply. Not sure how much of the demand is driven by fear vs greed. After the AWB goes into effect people will still be able to get their's just like after the original AWB. The only problem will be the price. I expect that some of the folks who already "got theirs" before the AWB #2 will be able to sell some of their extra hi cap mags for $100/ea.The rumors of a 500% tax will turn out to be true but it really isn't a gov't tax it's a horders profit.Same thing with black guns and ammo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #198 March 3, 2009 Quotesell some of their extra hi cap mags Sorry, pet peeve of mine. They're not "hi cap" mags, they're full capacity mags. Yup. Quite a few people are looking at that $900 rifle knowing that if the bill turns out to be even remotely like the last bill, the now pre-ban rifle will be worth on the upwards of $2500. Supply has really started to catch up from the major manufactures. Its all the useful stuff made by "smaller" companies like LaRue, Magpul, Vltor and the such that are still suffering from shortages.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piper17 1 #199 March 4, 2009 If someone is adjudicated as having mental issues and has been committed, there is a record of that...at least in CT where I live. When the gun shop calls the Dept. of Public Safety here to get approval of a firearms purchase, that would come up...as would convictions for felonies, etc. If the legal system in VA had done their job instead of dropping the ball and not making his mental health issues a matter of record, the VA Tech student killer would never have been able to purchase a firearm. Safeguards for normal firearms purchases are already in place. Criminals will get firearms illegally....and there is no way to stop it. Look at Mexico with its drug gang problems...or the UK. What's the problem?"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Krip 2 #200 March 5, 2009 Quote Quote sell some of their extra hi cap mags Sorry, pet peeve of mine. They're not "hi cap" mags, they're full capacity mags. Me Bad full capacity clipsOne Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next Page 8 of 8 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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Capt.Slog 0 #185 March 3, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Your statement that you know better than the Supreme Court what the Constitution means? Yes, I'm sure we ALL believe that you've established that as a fact. Why don't you write to Scalia and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about? I'm sure you can put him straight. Not only are you establishing that you're arguing simply to be contrary, but that you also lack fundamental reading skills. That wasn't what I stated at all. Really? Your post (#153 in this thread) seems to say exactly that. Then I guess that establishes my previous statement to be accurate. RIF Whatever floats your boat. You know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court. OK, not much point in discussing this any further. Any further? You haven't "discussed" it at all. What's to discuss? Your assertion that the SCOTUS doesn't understand the Constitution is absurd and unworthy of ny discussion. Reading is Fundamental. [url "http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3499005#3499005"] INDEED! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martlet 0 #186 March 3, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Your statement that you know better than the Supreme Court what the Constitution means? Yes, I'm sure we ALL believe that you've established that as a fact. Why don't you write to Scalia and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about? I'm sure you can put him straight. Not only are you establishing that you're arguing simply to be contrary, but that you also lack fundamental reading skills. That wasn't what I stated at all. Really? Your post (#153 in this thread) seems to say exactly that. Then I guess that establishes my previous statement to be accurate. RIF Whatever floats your boat. You know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court. OK, not much point in discussing this any further. Any further? You haven't "discussed" it at all. What's to discuss? Your assertion that the SCOTUS doesn't understand the Constitution is absurd and unworthy of ny discussion. Reading is Fundamental. [url "http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3499005#3499005"] INDEED! Comprehension, my child. It's all in the comprehension. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laszloimage 0 #187 March 3, 2009 Terrible. In a free country everybody should have right to walk around with loaded assault rifles or fully automatic weapons to ready to defend themselves. Just like in Afghanistan people can walk around with AKs or in Israel with Uzis. Yes, I want that freedom too! Dam liberals… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #188 March 3, 2009 Quote Terrible. In a free country everybody should have right to walk around with loaded assault rifles or fully automatic weapons to ready to defend themselves. Just like in Afghanistan people can walk around with AKs or in Israel with Uzis. Yes, I want that freedom too! Dam liberals… Nice strawman - any more foolishness to share with the class?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt.Slog 0 #189 March 3, 2009 What we read was clearly not what you think you wrote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt.Slog 0 #190 March 3, 2009 Quote Quote Terrible. In a free country everybody should have right to walk around with loaded assault rifles or fully automatic weapons to ready to defend themselves. Just like in Afghanistan people can walk around with AKs or in Israel with Uzis. Yes, I want that freedom too! Dam liberals… Nice strawman - any more foolishness to share with the class? That's sarcasm, not straw man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #191 March 3, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Terrible. In a free country everybody should have right to walk around with loaded assault rifles or fully automatic weapons to ready to defend themselves. Just like in Afghanistan people can walk around with AKs or in Israel with Uzis. Yes, I want that freedom too! Dam liberals… Nice strawman - any more foolishness to share with the class? That's sarcasm, not straw man. I treated it with the respect it deserved - none.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laszloimage 0 #193 March 3, 2009 Should people have assault rifles in Kosovo too? Which etnic group should carry them the Serbs or the Albanians? They have a right for the the freedom too don't they? Would that make you feel safer over there if they still have those guns? (I'm asking these questions because your profile says you're there) Burek is good food for sure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #194 March 3, 2009 Quote Should people have assault rifles in Kosovo too? Which etnic group should carry them the Serbs or the Albanians? They have a right for the the freedom too don't they? Would that make you feel safer over there if they still have those guns? (I'm asking these questions because your profile says you're there) Burek is good food for sure Seeing as how they're trying to join the EU, probably neither - can't have the serfs owning those icky GUNS, now can they?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #195 March 3, 2009 Quote I've made this point before and I'll make it again; if Pro-gun people don't like "assault weapons" being banned based on being "scary looking", then they should work with the gun control advocates and educate them so that there is a more reasonable criteria. and this point doesn't get any more intelligent with repetition. The leadership of the gun control (read: ban) movement does not require education. They are fully aware that the AWB accomplished nothing, that the 'plastic' Glock cannot go through airport scanners undetected. There is no need or point to educating such liars. The civilian gun industry is a small one - constantly banning and changing the requirements makes guns either most expensive or less profitable, eventually making them out of reach for the lower classes. The class action lawsuits was another strategy to bleed them, up till the NRA and the GOP got that eliminated via legislation. AWB2 is a trial balloon - if it goes well, the gun grabbers will probably go for broke, and will probably relearn the lessons of the 2000 election. But with the mess that the GOP has made of itself, the price for seizing civil rights might still be bearable. The problem for Obama is that with the state of the economy, I don't think he can afford to gamble political capital on nonsense legislation until everyone is feeling good again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #196 March 3, 2009 If you start looking at the economy, the gun industry is one of the very few industries that is absolutely booming right now. Record sales in every area. On the flip side, they all have Uncle O to thank for it, since there's been all of this talk about bans and much higher taxes on ammo. Everyone is getting what they want to get now, before they can't in a couple more months.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #197 March 3, 2009 Quote If you start looking at the economy, the gun industry is one of the very few industries that is absolutely booming right now. Record sales in every area. On the flip side, they all have Uncle O to thank for it, since there's been all of this talk about bans and much higher taxes on ammo. Everyone is getting what they want to get now, before they can't in a couple more months. The retail part of the gun industry is no longer booming since demand for their goods has exeeded the supply. Not sure how much of the demand is driven by fear vs greed. After the AWB goes into effect people will still be able to get their's just like after the original AWB. The only problem will be the price. I expect that some of the folks who already "got theirs" before the AWB #2 will be able to sell some of their extra hi cap mags for $100/ea.The rumors of a 500% tax will turn out to be true but it really isn't a gov't tax it's a horders profit.Same thing with black guns and ammo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #198 March 3, 2009 Quotesell some of their extra hi cap mags Sorry, pet peeve of mine. They're not "hi cap" mags, they're full capacity mags. Yup. Quite a few people are looking at that $900 rifle knowing that if the bill turns out to be even remotely like the last bill, the now pre-ban rifle will be worth on the upwards of $2500. Supply has really started to catch up from the major manufactures. Its all the useful stuff made by "smaller" companies like LaRue, Magpul, Vltor and the such that are still suffering from shortages.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #199 March 4, 2009 If someone is adjudicated as having mental issues and has been committed, there is a record of that...at least in CT where I live. When the gun shop calls the Dept. of Public Safety here to get approval of a firearms purchase, that would come up...as would convictions for felonies, etc. If the legal system in VA had done their job instead of dropping the ball and not making his mental health issues a matter of record, the VA Tech student killer would never have been able to purchase a firearm. Safeguards for normal firearms purchases are already in place. Criminals will get firearms illegally....and there is no way to stop it. Look at Mexico with its drug gang problems...or the UK. What's the problem?"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #200 March 5, 2009 Quote Quote sell some of their extra hi cap mags Sorry, pet peeve of mine. They're not "hi cap" mags, they're full capacity mags. Me Bad full capacity clipsOne Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
