klingeme 0 #101 November 3, 2008 Quote>Was your father a rapist Your one warning. Cut it out. Ouch. I've offically been offended. Thanks for that. I'm out of here. See you all in 4 years when I'll start the SC thing again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caress 0 #102 November 3, 2008 QuoteAnd what if the rape victom has the baby but shortly after, decides she can't hack it and throws the kid in a dumpster? Is that still alright? --------------------------------------------------- dropping a baby in a dumpster is not okay at all. I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Viking 0 #103 November 3, 2008 The Process of creating life starts at conception but that life doesn't start until birth. If that baby can't sustain its own life outside the mother (fully functioning organs) then its not living yet.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #104 November 3, 2008 Quote So if you believe that life starts sometime after conception (lets use 3 months as a example) what is wrong with using abortion as birth control within those 3 months, and why are more people not "pro abortion". If it is not the ending of a life, then nothing tragic is happening. If it is the ending of a life, then the story line behind the pregnancy (rape, 14 year old, slut) should not matter. If is is a life, why is it OK for a rape victom to end the life, but not the slut? Mark PS. I'm not trying to be offensive with the "slut" term, just painting a picture. I hope this is not offending anyone. I do not think you were (really) offending anyone. It's not that hard to understand your question. If abortion is allowed by law, there should be no difference for the 3 of them: If it's a victim, the 14 y/o one or the slut (what an idiotic word, who's do decide this???) If it matches the statutes, all of them are entitled to do so. If they want to end a life. My personal opinion is not relevant here. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stitch 0 #105 November 4, 2008 When you leave the edge. "No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites labrys 0 #106 November 4, 2008 QuoteI was born with a birth defect that gave my parents months of "trauma" wondering if I would survive the early months of my life, and I'm glad they decided to "tough it out" rather than taking the "easy route". This has a lot to do with my value for the life of the unborn. I was "miscarried" and born within the time frame some abortions are still conducted. I lived. It gives me no less respect for the rights of women to make their own choices. I was also faced with deciding between an abortion and continuing a pregnancy I did not want when I was very young. My own birth convinced me that abortion was not an option for me. I couldn't do it. I still had and have the belief that women have every right to make their own choices.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #107 November 4, 2008 Of course. Look how many people have been killed in the name of God. Less death? Less religious war? Fewer witches burned at the stake? Fewer blacks hanged? Fewer Islamic terrorists? Yes, those indeed are some perks with replacing an extremist religious morality with a more sane one. You are correct. Self-righteousness is the great equalizer. Self-righteous atheist = Self-righteous religious. They both replace God's Reality with their own, with evil consequence. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #103 November 3, 2008 The Process of creating life starts at conception but that life doesn't start until birth. If that baby can't sustain its own life outside the mother (fully functioning organs) then its not living yet.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #104 November 3, 2008 Quote So if you believe that life starts sometime after conception (lets use 3 months as a example) what is wrong with using abortion as birth control within those 3 months, and why are more people not "pro abortion". If it is not the ending of a life, then nothing tragic is happening. If it is the ending of a life, then the story line behind the pregnancy (rape, 14 year old, slut) should not matter. If is is a life, why is it OK for a rape victom to end the life, but not the slut? Mark PS. I'm not trying to be offensive with the "slut" term, just painting a picture. I hope this is not offending anyone. I do not think you were (really) offending anyone. It's not that hard to understand your question. If abortion is allowed by law, there should be no difference for the 3 of them: If it's a victim, the 14 y/o one or the slut (what an idiotic word, who's do decide this???) If it matches the statutes, all of them are entitled to do so. If they want to end a life. My personal opinion is not relevant here. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stitch 0 #105 November 4, 2008 When you leave the edge. "No cookies for you"- GFD "I don't think I like the sound of that" ~ MB65 Don't be a "Racer Hater" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #106 November 4, 2008 QuoteI was born with a birth defect that gave my parents months of "trauma" wondering if I would survive the early months of my life, and I'm glad they decided to "tough it out" rather than taking the "easy route". This has a lot to do with my value for the life of the unborn. I was "miscarried" and born within the time frame some abortions are still conducted. I lived. It gives me no less respect for the rights of women to make their own choices. I was also faced with deciding between an abortion and continuing a pregnancy I did not want when I was very young. My own birth convinced me that abortion was not an option for me. I couldn't do it. I still had and have the belief that women have every right to make their own choices.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #107 November 4, 2008 Of course. Look how many people have been killed in the name of God. Less death? Less religious war? Fewer witches burned at the stake? Fewer blacks hanged? Fewer Islamic terrorists? Yes, those indeed are some perks with replacing an extremist religious morality with a more sane one. You are correct. Self-righteousness is the great equalizer. Self-righteous atheist = Self-righteous religious. They both replace God's Reality with their own, with evil consequence. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #108 November 4, 2008 --First a person would have to believe in God. Then the person would have to believe that God has actually communicated his intentions to somebody else who then properly wrote that down and all subsequent translations have also been correct. Then the person would also have to assume that certain passages written applied to a topic not actually covered by the original text*** It is really not all that hard. But you give support to the verse that says " The way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it." --Seems a bit presumptuous to claim a person knows what "God's Reality" is.*** The choice is simple, either you spend the time to discern "God's Reality", or you replace it with your own. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #109 November 4, 2008 QuoteWhen do you think life starts? When men who support forcing women who are raped or are pregnent due to incest.. to have those children so they can relive the trauma for the rest of their lives when they look into the face of that child....... are reincarnated as females in areas like Waziristan and sub-saharan africa. Karma can be a real bitch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #110 November 4, 2008 Welcome BACK .. Plan on sticking around long this time You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
