akarunway 1 #26 October 21, 2008 Quote Palin is looking more like someone competing with McCain in a primary, than someone running as VP on the ticket. Would McCain be seen as being incompetent for having picked her to begin with (ok, maybe he already is) and then changing, or would he be seen as someone willing to recognize a mistake and correct it? Would it increase or decrease the votes for McCain?Me thinks it's too late. McCain will just be another footnote in history. Along w/ Palin. Why he picked that dumb bitch to start w/ behooves me.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #27 October 21, 2008 McCain should have picked Condoleeza Rice as his VP. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #28 October 21, 2008 QuoteMcCain should have picked Condoleeza Rice as his VP. While she's certainly smarter than the woman he picked, the trade-off would have been a tougher time selling his "maverick" schtick. Overall, I think she'd have helped him a bit more than Palin, but not a ton. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #29 October 21, 2008 I think she would have been WAAY better than Palin. I don't know why Rice wasn't chosen. McCain could have really driven home the "experience" argument with Rice on the ticket. The only reasons I can think of would be :1) she turned down the offer or 2) Neither McCain nor Rice by themselves are "Jesus-y" enough to satisfy the Religious Right. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #30 October 21, 2008 QuoteWOW that is an interesting concept i thought , when he first chose her, that it was a desperate move. If he dumps her now,,, THAT would be even MORE desperate... .... and evidence of a chaotic situation.. However IF he Chose Hillary!!!!!!! That would light up the message boards and media centers EVERYWHERE!!!! hahahahaha.. jmy I agree with Bill on this one, it shows flexibility rather than riding the ship to the bottom of the ocean as the R's do so well. He could claim the troopergate issue makes him rethink his choice, of course it would have been good last week when it was discovered she did abuse her power. He has a record as an honest guy, he could say he erred and he wants to make a better choice / tight ship / no corruption here..... besides, what does he have to lose? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #31 October 21, 2008 I think it's too late, 2 weeks before the election. I think it would hurt him to switch now. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #32 October 21, 2008 QuoteQuoteUnless he were to replace her with someone HUGELY popular Yeah, like if he were to dump her and pick Colin Powell... Oh, nevermind. Never work, McCain = Bush; Powell = anti Bush....it would be purely confusing for the GOP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #33 October 21, 2008 Quote Quote Would McCain be seen as being incompetent for having picked her to begin with (ok, maybe he already is) and then changing, or would he be seen as someone willing to recognize a mistake and correct it? Would it increase or decrease the votes for McCain? See how it worked for the Democrats in 72. The only way he gets out of this mess is to have her go hunting with Chaney. OK, that would dispose of Cheney, what about her? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #34 October 21, 2008 QuoteMcCain should have picked Condoleeza Rice as his VP. Nah, too close to Bush; they were trying to create this MAVERICK image that is away from Bush. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #35 October 21, 2008 QuoteI think it's too late, 2 weeks before the election. I think it would hurt him to switch now. Yea, prolly, but what do they have to lose? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #36 October 21, 2008 good point... AND if klingme CAN prove the $$$$$ issues...then it can ONLY be..... >>>>> "McCain-Klingelhoefer 2008 "the bumper stickers would be collectors items!!! jt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 177 #37 October 21, 2008 By the time the press is done shoving the microscope up her ass, Sarah Palin is going to regret the day she said yes to the VP gig. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27310999 Abuse of power, abuse of state funds, what's next? Reformer????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,648 #38 October 21, 2008 Quote By the time the press is done shoving the microscope up her ass, Sarah Palin is going to regret the day she said yes to the VP gig. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27310999 Abuse of power, abuse of state funds, what's next? Reformer????? I guess she learned the ropes from Sen. Stevens.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #39 October 21, 2008 Quote By the time the press is done shoving the microscope up her ass, Sarah Palin is going to regret the day she said yes to the VP gig. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27310999 Abuse of power, abuse of state funds, what's next? Reformer????? No one will remember who was governor of Alaska in 2008. Not even most Alaskans. But she'll be the first woman nominee on the GOP side, and second overall. That will be remembered, even if her ticket loses. And it's not the kind of offer one tends to refuse. (Like being offered the job as coach of the Cowboys) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #40 October 21, 2008 i dunno about "them cowboys" boss,,,but if offered the job with the BILLS or Tennesee!!!!Then that's a deal.!!!in fact, speaking of sports.. why not Steinbrenner or Mark Cuban?? for VP... and speaking of Texas.. hell bring on Ross Perot!!!!!!... McCain -Perot could have it ALL OVER McCain -Palin PLUS!!!! dana carvey..? SNL ???? ah it truly would be the good 'ole days!!!jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #41 October 21, 2008 Quote I think it's too late, 2 weeks before the election. I think it would hurt him to switch now. I agree. His best bet now is to hold on and hope that Biden says some really stupid things in the next two weeks. Well, unless he drops Palin and puts Hillary Clinton on his ticket, or perhaps Tina Fey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #42 October 21, 2008 Quote...and speaking of Texas.. hell bring on Ross Perot!!!!!!... McCain -Perot could have it ALL OVER McCain -Palin I don't think so. http://www.newsweek.com/id/94827/page/1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #43 October 22, 2008 QuoteHowever IF he Chose Hillary!!!!!!! That would light up the message boards and media centers EVERYWHERE!!!! hahahahaha.. I have $100 riding on this happening. Not because I actually think it's giong to happen but 6 months after putting the money down this is the only way she'll be president within this Executive Branch cycle. My next best shot is that she becomes speaker, McCaine dies, and Palin is told that she need not show up for work on Monday."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #44 October 22, 2008 Quote edit for the spelling nazis Vielen dank. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #45 October 22, 2008 Hillary can't become Speaker of the House. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #46 October 22, 2008 Quote in fact, speaking of sports.. why not Steinbrenner or Mark Cuban?? for VP... McCain Steinbrenner would be the crazy old grumpy man ticket. McCain Cuban would be the simpler crazy man ticket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #47 October 22, 2008 QuoteHillary can't become Speaker of the House. I have $100 dollars riding that she will."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #48 October 22, 2008 QuoteQuote in fact, speaking of sports.. why not Steinbrenner or Mark Cuban?? for VP... McCain Steinbrenner would be the crazy old grumpy man ticket. McCain Cuban would be the simpler crazy man ticket. Why not, Reagan pardoned him for tax evasion, Reagan is McCain's hero, McCain owes him one....sure, why not, keep the corruption in-house. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,065 #49 October 22, 2008 Hey DJL, She is a senator, not a member of the US House. JerryBaumchen PS) I think that is what he was trying to tell you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 1 #50 October 22, 2008 QuoteAh, I see. So when you said that "both agreed to public financing" you meant that "both said they might use public financing" or that "both pursued public financing." It's a bit more than that. Obama unilaterally decided to reject public financing after saying he would negotiate with McCain so they could both go that route: Quote Obama had promised to pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to accept the public money and the spending limits that go with it. That was before he began pulling in record amounts of donations, and doing so would have meant surrendering a significant advantage over Republican candidate John McCain. Strategists from both parties say Obama likely can outpace McCain in fundraising by more than $100 million for the general election. Through April 30, the latest date for which complete figures are available, Obama took in $266 million, $10 million of that for the general election. McCain raised around $110 million through May 31, none of it for the fall campaign. McCain Reaction McCain's campaign chided Obama for breaking a commitment to pursue an agreement on public financing. ``The true test of a candidate for president is whether he will stand on principle and keep his word to the American people,'' spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker said in a statement. ``His reversal of his promise to participate in the public finance system undermines his call for a new type of politics.'' Source: Bloomberg News I don't doubt that McCain would have done the same if their positions were reversed, but this is one case where Obama didn't look that good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
