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br0k3n 0
QuoteBut, I am afraid you did not grasp the way to peace. Perhaps you are still full of blame and bitterness?
blame and bitterness for what exactly?
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shaark 0
QuoteOne could even say that is does exactly the oppositeQuoteQuoteBut unless you can conclusively explain the eternal nature of our existence and all of the forces that shape reality, you shouldn't close you mind to possibilities.
Not believing in a human-created god does not equal closing one's mind to possibilities.
Humans do themselves a disservice with regard to science when they accept a particular theory as fact. Any theory may allow us practical benefits, yet a 'now we know it all' attitude causes stagnation. An open questioning attitude seems to be much more productive.
In a like manner ---
The quest to understand the meaning of life and the why/how of the origin of everything is very strong in humanity. It seems to me that subscribing to any one religious 'theory' is self limiting in this regard. Belief of itself proves nothing. And the rigidity inherent in any 'belief' system precludes further inquiry. What a shame.
I like to think that I have the humility to be an agnostic, that I can accept that I do not know the answers. I like to think that I can therefore continue my personal quest with an open, inquiring mind, knowing that I will almost certainly never arrive at verifiable conclusions.
I understand that if I gave myself wholeheartedly to a belief system that I might feel a temporary (or even permanent) fulfillment, but I would also probably feel somewhat ashamed.
TANSTAAFL
QuoteQuoteBut, I am afraid you did not grasp the way to peace. Perhaps you are still full of blame and bitterness?
blame and bitterness for what exactly?
I dont know, it was more a question I believe. Its my experience that blame and bitterness remain because we cant see them. If I faulted someone for something, I fail to see my own fault, therefore blame and bitterness remain in my blindness. Similar to when relationships are destroyed, we generally only see the fault in others and sincerely believe we have none ourselves, or believe it is very little. Im sure you may be able to testify that when it comes to the destruction of a relationship, there is almost equal amounts of blame on both sides.
"We didn't start the fire"
Squeak 17
I dont think anyone here has proposed that Science as understand it today was aLL THE ANSWERS OR THAT OUR CURRENT UNDERSTANDings ARE facts.QuoteQuoteOne could even say that is does exactly the oppositeQuoteQuoteBut unless you can conclusively explain the eternal nature of our existence and all of the forces that shape reality, you shouldn't close you mind to possibilities.
Not believing in a human-created god does not equal closing one's mind to possibilities.
Humans do themselves a disservice with regard to science when they accept a particular theory as fact. Any theory may allow us practical benefits, yet a 'now we know it all' attitude causes stagnation. An open questioning attitude seems to be much more productive.
In a like manner ---
The quest to understand the meaning of life and the why/how of the origin of everything is very strong in humanity. It seems to me that subscribing to any one religious 'theory' is self limiting in this regard. Belief of itself proves nothing. And the rigidity inherent in any 'belief' system precludes further inquiry. What a shame.
I like to think that I have the humility to be an agnostic, that I can accept that I do not know the answers. I like to think that I can therefore continue my personal quest with an open, inquiring mind, knowing that I will almost certainly never arrive at verifiable conclusions.
I understand that if I gave myself wholeheartedly to a belief system that I might feel a temporary (or even permanent) fulfillment, but I would also probably feel somewhat ashamed.
TANSTAAFL
it's the THEORY....( of the big bang, Evolution, Sting etc...) and as such theroies are open to examination, and also open to be proven null and void.
That's what i love about Science, a million experiments can support a theory, and one can destroy it.
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shaark 0
Squeak,
I agree. Good science is open-minded. I was trying to relate this attitude to religious attitudes.
Belief systems by definition limit inquiry, and ultimately limit understanding. I think religions are in many ways a disservice to humanity.
tanstaafl
I agree. Good science is open-minded. I was trying to relate this attitude to religious attitudes.
Belief systems by definition limit inquiry, and ultimately limit understanding. I think religions are in many ways a disservice to humanity.
tanstaafl
jcd11235 0
QuoteHow do you know which one you are in?
I think everyone hs to figure that out for themselves.
QuoteDoes a song lose truth or power just because it uses words outside of the "context" of their definitions?
There's a big difference between poetry and a precise definition.
QuoteIve been in your place before, I never want go back, probably couldnt even if I wanted to!
I was thinking that same thing when I wrote that.
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billvon 2,427
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>But unless you can conclusively explain the eternal nature of our
>existence and all of the forces that shape reality, you shouldn't close you
>mind to possibilities.
Right, no one should. Indeed, you could argue that the agnostics are the people with the most open minds; most fundamentalist's minds are completely closed to the possibility that God does not exist.
>As it is the quarks in you body and energy that powers your mind has
>been rambling around this latest phase of creation for 13.75 billion years
>with no loss of spin, charge or mass. Attributing this to blind chance is
>short sighted to say the least.
Agreed. It is wiser to attribute it to physics.
>existence and all of the forces that shape reality, you shouldn't close you
>mind to possibilities.
Right, no one should. Indeed, you could argue that the agnostics are the people with the most open minds; most fundamentalist's minds are completely closed to the possibility that God does not exist.
>As it is the quarks in you body and energy that powers your mind has
>been rambling around this latest phase of creation for 13.75 billion years
>with no loss of spin, charge or mass. Attributing this to blind chance is
>short sighted to say the least.
Agreed. It is wiser to attribute it to physics.
maadmax 0
Right, no one should. Indeed, you could argue that the agnostics are the people with the most open minds; most fundamentalist's minds are completely closed to the possibility that God does not exist.***
Agnosticism is a good place to start, but it sure is a waste to get stuck there. For me God has provided the opportunity of knowing much more about Him than "ya I think He exists, maybe". Spiritually speaking, there is a universe of possibilities to explore.
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Agnosticism is a good place to start, but it sure is a waste to get stuck there. For me God has provided the opportunity of knowing much more about Him than "ya I think He exists, maybe". Spiritually speaking, there is a universe of possibilities to explore.
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billvon 2,427
> For me God has provided the opportunity of knowing much more
>about Him than "ya I think He exists, maybe".
Have you closed your mind to the possibility of him not existing?
>about Him than "ya I think He exists, maybe".
Have you closed your mind to the possibility of him not existing?
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