pop 0 #176 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteA gal I know who works in the ER routinely sees women come in for pregnancy tests. On the nights she's working triage, she points out the door at the Rite-Aid across the street and suggests they pick up a pregnancy test there for 10 or 15 bucks instead of burning through several hundred in the ER. The answer is always some variant of the same thing..."Yeah, but the state won't pay for that and they will pay for this." This is a prime example of why I should not have my pocket picked for others' healthcare. Shit heads. We live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. Some cultures are brought up that way, others are not. I like to believe that when someone needs help, I'm there for them.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #177 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteA gal I know who works in the ER routinely sees women come in for pregnancy tests. On the nights she's working triage, she points out the door at the Rite-Aid across the street and suggests they pick up a pregnancy test there for 10 or 15 bucks instead of burning through several hundred in the ER. The answer is always some variant of the same thing..."Yeah, but the state won't pay for that and they will pay for this." This is a prime example of why I should not have my pocket picked for others' healthcare. Shit heads. We live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. Some cultures are brought up that way, others are not. I like to believe that when someone needs help, I'm there for them. Sure...the difference is that you choose to help of your own free will, not by coercion.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #178 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteA gal I know who works in the ER routinely sees women come in for pregnancy tests. On the nights she's working triage, she points out the door at the Rite-Aid across the street and suggests they pick up a pregnancy test there for 10 or 15 bucks instead of burning through several hundred in the ER. The answer is always some variant of the same thing..."Yeah, but the state won't pay for that and they will pay for this." This is a prime example of why I should not have my pocket picked for others' healthcare. Shit heads. We live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. Some cultures are brought up that way, others are not. I like to believe that when someone needs help, I'm there for them. Sure...the difference is that you choose to help of your own free will, not by coercion. I dont think that coercion and community "dues" are the same thing. If you are part of a country club you have dues. If you are part of a community, you have dues. Maybe Im wrong.....maybe being part of a community should "dues" free, and shuold be all about "me, me, me". Then again, maybe not.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #179 February 6, 2008 QuoteWe live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. This from the guy who was pissed off because he was waiting while others were being helped and complaining about customer service? Actually, we humans want to help ourselves and want others to help us - usually we'd prefer that it happens BEFORE others get helped. We are far more willing to help others when there is something in it for us. In your heart fo hearts, you know this is correct. Your actions showed that to be the case. And I am not insulting you by saying this. I'm regarded by many on here to be a dick because I admit "that's the way it is." But you did complain that others were helped before you. Helping them was of no interest to you. You were pissed because you didn't get what you wanted WHEN you wanted it. That's "self centered." And there is NOTHING wrong with that, so long as you aren't hurting others. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #180 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote We live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. Some cultures are brought up that way, others are not. I like to believe that when someone needs help, I'm there for them. Sure...the difference is that you choose to help of your own free will, not by coercion. I dont think that coercion and community "dues" are the same thing. If you are part of a country club you have dues. If you are part of a community, you have dues. Maybe Im wrong.....maybe being part of a community should "dues" free, and shuold be all about "me, me, me". Then again, maybe not. Your "fees" that you make comparison to would be the payments for YOUR insurance.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #181 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteWe live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. This from the guy who was pissed off because he was waiting while others were being helped and complaining about customer service? Actually, we humans want to help ourselves and want others to help us - usually we'd prefer that it happens BEFORE others get helped. We are far more willing to help others when there is something in it for us. In your heart fo hearts, you know this is correct. Your actions showed that to be the case. And I am not insulting you by saying this. I'm regarded by many on here to be a dick because I admit "that's the way it is." But you did complain that others were helped before you. Helping them was of no interest to you. Yeah I was upset to see a room full of illegals feeding off a system I have to pay into, and getting the same care I was hoping to get (though I gave up after 4 hours). But that's the way it is.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #182 February 6, 2008 Indeed. We are naturally self-centered. So policies attempting to go against human nature, which require us to consider everyone else before ourselves, will meet resisistance and will likely fail. It's why campaigns for national health care don't focus on the benefits to society. They focus on the benefits to you. "Sure, you'll pay into this system, but here's what you get. Behind curtain No. 2 - emergency room care available on demand!" My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,632 #183 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteA gal I know who works in the ER routinely sees women come in for pregnancy tests. On the nights she's working triage, she points out the door at the Rite-Aid across the street and suggests they pick up a pregnancy test there for 10 or 15 bucks instead of burning through several hundred in the ER. The answer is always some variant of the same thing..."Yeah, but the state won't pay for that and they will pay for this." This is a prime example of why I should not have my pocket picked for others' healthcare. Shit heads. We live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. Some cultures are brought up that way, others are not. I like to believe that when someone needs help, I'm there for them. It's funny that most of the extremely self-centered individuals posting here were also beneficiaries of a taxpayer subsidized education.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #184 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteA gal I know who works in the ER routinely sees women come in for pregnancy tests. On the nights she's working triage, she points out the door at the Rite-Aid across the street and suggests they pick up a pregnancy test there for 10 or 15 bucks instead of burning through several hundred in the ER. The answer is always some variant of the same thing..."Yeah, but the state won't pay for that and they will pay for this." This is a prime example of why I should not have my pocket picked for others' healthcare. Shit heads. We live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. Some cultures are brought up that way, others are not. I like to believe that when someone needs help, I'm there for them. You want to help others, but you claim you want to be seen and treated in the ER before anyone else regardless of the rules of triage. Move out of the country ASAP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #185 February 6, 2008 Quote Indeed. We are naturally self-centered. So policies attempting to go against human nature, which require us to consider everyone else before ourselves, will meet resisistance and will likely fail. It's why campaigns for national health care don't focus on the benefits to society. They focus on the benefits to you. "Sure, you'll pay into this system, but here's what you get. Behind curtain No. 2 - emergency room care available on demand!" You are right. And there is one of the problems. I think the job of the federal governemnt is to focus on a society and look at the big picture. However, we live in a very individualistic culture, and we do not care as a mass about the "health" of the society, but are rather concerned about "me, me, me." We need to look at solutions that find a good medium between how individuals benefit, and the long term benefit to the society. And if all fails, we need to simply get together and have one big cook out (I'll do the pork shuolders) 7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #186 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteA gal I know who works in the ER routinely sees women come in for pregnancy tests. On the nights she's working triage, she points out the door at the Rite-Aid across the street and suggests they pick up a pregnancy test there for 10 or 15 bucks instead of burning through several hundred in the ER. The answer is always some variant of the same thing..."Yeah, but the state won't pay for that and they will pay for this." This is a prime example of why I should not have my pocket picked for others' healthcare. Shit heads. We live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. Some cultures are brought up that way, others are not. I like to believe that when someone needs help, I'm there for them. It's funny that most of the extremely self-centered individuals posting here were also beneficiaries of a taxpayer subsidized education. And that's a good point to. We have both socialized and privatized schooling, but why cant we do the same for healthcare?7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #187 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteA gal I know who works in the ER routinely sees women come in for pregnancy tests. On the nights she's working triage, she points out the door at the Rite-Aid across the street and suggests they pick up a pregnancy test there for 10 or 15 bucks instead of burning through several hundred in the ER. The answer is always some variant of the same thing..."Yeah, but the state won't pay for that and they will pay for this." This is a prime example of why I should not have my pocket picked for others' healthcare. Shit heads. We live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. Some cultures are brought up that way, others are not. I like to believe that when someone needs help, I'm there for them. You want to help others, but you claim you want to be seen and treated in the ER before anyone else regardless of the rules of triage. Move out of the country ASAP. NO! I am only claiming that I want to be seen before the individuals not playing by the rules. Period!7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,632 #188 February 6, 2008 Quote Move out of the country ASAP. Next time you complain about "Illinoistan" or "Crook County" or Chicago and Fuhrer Daley, remember your own advice.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #189 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteA gal I know who works in the ER routinely sees women come in for pregnancy tests. On the nights she's working triage, she points out the door at the Rite-Aid across the street and suggests they pick up a pregnancy test there for 10 or 15 bucks instead of burning through several hundred in the ER. The answer is always some variant of the same thing..."Yeah, but the state won't pay for that and they will pay for this." This is a prime example of why I should not have my pocket picked for others' healthcare. Shit heads. We live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. Some cultures are brought up that way, others are not. I like to believe that when someone needs help, I'm there for them. It's funny that most of the extremely self-centered individuals posting here were also beneficiaries of a taxpayer subsidized education. How many times are you going to make the same point? Education is funded by property taxes for the most part. So applying your logic means that since the government pays for education that they have to pay for EVERYTHING else too. The sense of entitlement some people have baffles me. My job has no benefits but guess what? I work hard and I pay for my own insurance. So should everybody else.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #190 February 6, 2008 QuoteIt's funny that most of the extremely self-centered individuals posting here were also beneficiaries of a taxpayer subsidized education. Isn't that like saying "It's funny that the self-centered people show up for free-Frosty day at Wendy's." No, it's not funny. It's self-centered. Why is that funny? We are self-centered people. We'll take what we can get. Isn't that what self-centered is about? A non-self-centered person would turn away that free education opportunity. More accurate is, "It's funny that those who chastise the self-centered want others to give them more." Or, "It's funny how many 'Moral Majority' people are involved in sex scandals." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #191 February 6, 2008 Quote I'll do the pork shuolders) Doesn't that leave out Jews and Muslims? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #192 February 6, 2008 Quote And if all fails, we need to simply get together and have one big cook out (I'll do the pork shuolders) You better bring your famous barbecue sauce too. That stuff is good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,632 #193 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteA gal I know who works in the ER routinely sees women come in for pregnancy tests. On the nights she's working triage, she points out the door at the Rite-Aid across the street and suggests they pick up a pregnancy test there for 10 or 15 bucks instead of burning through several hundred in the ER. The answer is always some variant of the same thing..."Yeah, but the state won't pay for that and they will pay for this." This is a prime example of why I should not have my pocket picked for others' healthcare. Shit heads. We live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. Some cultures are brought up that way, others are not. I like to believe that when someone needs help, I'm there for them. It's funny that most of the extremely self-centered individuals posting here were also beneficiaries of a taxpayer subsidized education. How many times are you going to make the same point? As long as hypocrisy keeps raising its ugly head.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #194 February 6, 2008 Quote Quote I'll do the pork shuolders) Doesn't that leave out Jews and Muslims? I have jew in me. I've been eating pork all my life, and havent gotten the pork kuddies yet. lol. Off topic - I am curious to find out the real reason jews and muslims dont eat pork. I think most of the religious food rules stem from the old days when there was no refriguration, but why pork? It's so fucking good!7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #195 February 6, 2008 QuoteAs long as hypocrisy keeps raising its ugly head. Who are the hypocrites? The ones who say, "Humans are self-centered, we are all humans that therefore will do self-centered things?" Or the ones who say, "We are not self-centered. You should think about everyone else except for yourself and help me out. Everyone should help me." It's the same hypocrisy as, "Shut your mouth and open your mind." Um, if you believed that, you wouldn't be telling me to shut my mouth, now would you? Perhaps you need to open your mind a bit. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #196 February 6, 2008 My theory relates to trichinosis, but that's just me. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #197 February 6, 2008 QuoteMy theory relates to trichinosis, but that's just me. That's basically undercooked pork. So there might still be a correlation to lack of refriguration.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #198 February 6, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteA gal I know who works in the ER routinely sees women come in for pregnancy tests. On the nights she's working triage, she points out the door at the Rite-Aid across the street and suggests they pick up a pregnancy test there for 10 or 15 bucks instead of burning through several hundred in the ER. The answer is always some variant of the same thing..."Yeah, but the state won't pay for that and they will pay for this." This is a prime example of why I should not have my pocket picked for others' healthcare. Shit heads. We live in a community, and not some self centered world. If we have any human in us, by nature we want to help others. Some cultures are brought up that way, others are not. I like to believe that when someone needs help, I'm there for them. It's funny that most of the extremely self-centered individuals posting here were also beneficiaries of a taxpayer subsidized education. I used the taxpayer subsidized education, I didn't abuse it. As a result of that education, I've put more dollars into the coffers than I took, so it was a good investment on the part of the government and tax-paying public. A woman using hundreds of taxpayer dollars to avoid using a dozen or so of her own is abusing the communal trust. Do you see a difference? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #199 February 6, 2008 To all: Where does it stop? We pay enough tax as it is. I have no problem sustaining the existing (albeit too heavy) tax burden, but... When does all this socialist bullshit stop? Healthcare would dwarf most any other social program. Take care of your own fucking needs. Enough is enough.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #200 February 6, 2008 Ah yes.. I got mine.. and fuck everyone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
