kallend 1,678 #1 February 3, 2008 www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/washington/03cnd-military.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin And that doesn't include the supplemental appropriations.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 February 3, 2008 Feel free to leave. What are you actually in favor of? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,678 #3 February 3, 2008 Quote Feel free to leave. What are you actually in favor of? AS a top rate taxpayer, I think I'm needed to help pay the bill China will eventually tire of paying it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #4 February 4, 2008 Quote www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/washington/03cnd-military.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin And that doesn't include the supplemental appropriations. While your crying over those expenses, I'm just alittle concern about those entitlements that are running about 70% of the current U.S. budget. Need to look at some tough ideas to rain in the Social Security, Medicare, Medicad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,276 #5 February 4, 2008 QuoteFeel free to leave. So you've never complained about any form of government spending or taxation? Ever?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 February 4, 2008 Quote Quote Feel free to leave. What are you actually in favor of? AS a top rate taxpayer, I think I'm needed to help pay the bill China will eventually tire of paying it. No you are not. The amount you are taxed is like a drop of water in the ocean. Do not make the mistake of overstating your own importance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 February 4, 2008 Do you live here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,276 #8 February 4, 2008 QuoteDo you live here? I thought we just went over this? Anyway, the principle of being able to object to stuff your government does is one of the central building blocks of democracy no matter what country you live in. Telling someone to leave if they disagree with military spending is just as stupid as telling someone to leave if they disagree with any type of government spending. Feel free to leave if you disagree with public healthcare, feel free to leave if you disagree with public schools, feel free to leave if you disagree with congressional pork. It's not a productive line of discussion.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #9 February 4, 2008 I told nobody to leave, I merely stated they were free to leave as this is still a country where we are not held captive within our borders. RIF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,276 #10 February 4, 2008 QuoteI told nobody to leave, I merely stated they were free to leave as this is still a country where we are not held captive within our borders. Feel free to leave if you disagree with public healthcare, feel free to leave if you disagree with public schools, feel free to leave if you disagree with congressional pork. It's not a productive line of discussion.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 February 4, 2008 What percentage do you feel is appropriate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #12 February 4, 2008 Quote Feel free to leave. I actually find such statement grossly untypical of what America (and Americans) stand for. What made America what it is, is the desire of its founding fathers and then citizens not to accept mediocrity, and always try and better the condition of American Citizens. The founding fathers were free to leave the colonies in the 18th century, yet decided to remain and try and better the system. In the process, they created a new form of government, which among other things, empowers its citizen to have their voices heard. "Feel free to leave" as an answer to someone complaining about an issue in America is, in my opinion, an insult to what this country stands for. Feel free to let your government know about it would be more appropriate. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #13 February 4, 2008 I think your position is actually closer to the truth. Others seek only to complain, and yet never have an answer, or worse yet, seek our own demise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #14 February 4, 2008 I go along with the people who say it's way too big. I believe that it is not necessary spending such a shit load of money (that, by the way, you do not have) on military. I am from Switzerland and we spend about 1% of our GDP annually on our military and I would say we have been doing way better with that then the US does. Here the simple secrets about not having to spend that much money: 1. Don't assume you are the world police (altough there are instances where help is appreciated like WWII) 2. Don't piss of everybody (a.k.a. Al Kaida, Iran and the rest of the world) I'm fairly sure by doing that you could decrease your spending significantly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,470 #15 February 4, 2008 > What percentage do you feel is appropriate? An amount sufficient to repel any attack against us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #16 February 4, 2008 Quote Quote Feel free to leave. What are you actually in favor of? AS a top rate taxpayer, I think I'm needed to help pay the bill China will eventually tire of paying it. Wow... I never would have thought a college professor would be making 364k/year...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #17 February 4, 2008 Quote Feel free to leave. What are you actually in favor of? Feel freeto continue to vote for Nazis and then blame the Dems..... I know u will Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #18 February 4, 2008 Quote Quote Feel free to leave. What are you actually in favor of? AS a top rate taxpayer, I think I'm needed to help pay the bill China will eventually tire of paying it. Maybe China will use our military to fight their enemy...... Oh wait, that's us . China will direct our military that they in part pay for to attack the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #19 February 4, 2008 Quote Quote www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/washington/03cnd-military.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin And that doesn't include the supplemental appropriations. While your crying over those expenses, I'm just alittle concern about those entitlements that are running about 70% of the current U.S. budget. Need to look at some tough ideas to rain in the Social Security, Medicare, Medicad. Crying over a few 100 Billion per year, how trivial. I don;t think it's 70%, but whatever it is, I be if we obtained data from other industrialized nations and compared the social spending RATE, we would find the US is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY less than them, as well as the tax rate. Yet the R's continue to cry about our very low tax rate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #20 February 4, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Feel free to leave. What are you actually in favor of? AS a top rate taxpayer, I think I'm needed to help pay the bill China will eventually tire of paying it. No you are not. The amount you are taxed is like a drop of water in the ocean. Do not make the mistake of overstating your own importance. I bet tax bill is much higher than yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #21 February 4, 2008 Ditto.. >>>>>>>>>>>It's not a productive line of discussion. Think of who you are conversing with..... you will understand why. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #22 February 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteI told nobody to leave, I merely stated they were free to leave as this is still a country where we are not held captive within our borders. Feel free to leave if you disagree with public healthcare, feel free to leave if you disagree with public schools, feel free to leave if you disagree with congressional pork. It's not a productive line of discussion. Follwed by denial........ Feel lucky you don't have to live with these R's here, just have to read their rhetoric. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #23 February 4, 2008 QuoteWhat percentage do you feel is appropriate? Considering #2 spends 1/8th to 1/9th of what we do, I think if we spent 3 times of #2 we would still be superior. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #24 February 4, 2008 QuoteI think your position is actually closer to the truth. Others seek only to complain, and yet never have an answer, or worse yet, seek our own demise. But yet you did state that those who don't like it should feel free to leave, care to retract? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #25 February 4, 2008 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1. Don't assume you are the world police (altough there are instances where help is appreciated like WWII) Altho the US did very well in the European theatre, remember it was Russia who was most impressive defeating Germany. BTW, you have a schweet country. I worked with a guy who immigrated from there to here, I think he's F'n crazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
